All Schools are GOOD Schools
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atutor2001:
It is a misconception that school teachers make the best tutors. I always tell my friends never to engage a current teacher to be a tutor. The reason is simple and self-explanatory by logical deduction.PiggyLalala:
... If no current teachers are tutors, then the best teachers will be the school teachers who know of the lastest syllabus and marking requirements. Maybe less parents will send their kids to tuition centres then.
But at least they know of the latest marking scheme, especially for PSLE which is marked locally. -
PiggyLalala:
It is a misconception that school teachers make the best tutors. I always tell my friends never to engage a current teacher to be a tutor. The reason is simple and self-explanatory by logical deduction.atutor2001:
[quote=\"PiggyLalala\"]... If no current teachers are tutors, then the best teachers will be the school teachers who know of the lastest syllabus and marking requirements. Maybe less parents will send their kids to tuition centres then.
But at least they know of the latest marking scheme, especially for PSLE which is marked locally.[/quote]Misconception again. Being exposed to the answer keys does not imply knowing the marking scheme. Many teachers are so sotong and just follow the marks indicated in the answer keys blindly. The answer keys state the various possible answers and their corresponding marks. If a particular way of answering is given zero, this teacher will go back to the class and tell their students - \"Cannot answer this way ok, no mark you know!\" And that is good only for that particular question. Ask them why (i.e. the concept) is it that no mark should be awarded if answered this way, the same teacher has nothing to offer. Yes lots of silly parents are wasting their money engaging so called teachers as \"tutors\". -
Being exposed to the answer keys does not imply knowing the marking scheme. Many teachers are so sotong and just follow the marks indicated in the answer keys blindly. The answer keys state the various possible answers and their corresponding marks. If a particular way of answering is given zero, this teacher will go back to the class and tell their students - \"Cannot answer this way ok, no mark you know!\" And that is good only for that particular question. Ask them why (i.e. the concept) is it that no mark should be awarded if answered this way, the same teacher has nothing to offer. Yes lots of silly parents are wasting their money engaging so called teachers as \"tutors\".[/quote]
:goodpost: Most of teachers have answer keys and they just follow them without knowing what they're teaching.Sometimes,different teachers give different answers :? :slapshead: -
My personal experience on teachers/school’s role in pushing parents (even non-kiasu ones) to tuition
1. My boy scored 9 or 10 out of 10 P1 and P2. In P3 1st term, suddenly the scores dropped to 13 or 14 out of 20. Teachers said 'cos expectations have raisen. 3 months time and the results are so drastic? Question is: What expectations? Have they taught them extra? Or simply artifically raise the bar? When asked how to improve? The answers were so generic and honestlly, how do you expect a teacher of class 40 teaching multiple subjects to be able to assess the students specific strengths and weaknesses so effectively? Even in corporate world you talk about span of control.
2. My friend just told me that her kid’s ENTIRE class fail higher chinese in P5 & these were supposedly better in Chinese students selected for the higher chinese. SHOCK TACTICS to get parents to buck up? and hence send to more tuition classes? -
kitty2:
Being exposed to the answer keys does not imply knowing the marking scheme. Many teachers are so sotong and just follow the marks indicated in the answer keys blindly. The answer keys state the various possible answers and their corresponding marks. If a particular way of answering is given zero, this teacher will go back to the class and tell their students - \"Cannot answer this way ok, no mark you know!\" And that is good only for that particular question. Ask them why (i.e. the concept) is it that no mark should be awarded if answered this way, the same teacher has nothing to offer. Yes lots of silly parents are wasting their money engaging so called teachers as \"tutors\".
:goodpost: Most of teachers have answer keys and they just follow them without knowing what they're teaching.Sometimes,different teachers give different answers :? :slapshead:[/quote]
I do not agree with this. Wouldn't it be worst if the tutor teaches the child to answer a question in a certain way not knowing that marks will be deducted for such presentations in the PSLE markings. However, I agree with you that some tutors may explain certain concept better than the school teachers. The best is that your child has a good teacher in the school and learn what is necessary from his school teachers. That will save a lot of time and $$$. -
PiggyLalala:
I do not agree with this. Wouldn't it be worst if the tutor teaches the child to answer a question in a certain way not knowing that marks will be deducted for such presentations in the PSLE markings. However, I agree with you that some tutors may explain certain concept better than the school teachers. The best is that your child has a good teacher in the school and learn what is necessary from his school teachers. That will save a lot of time and $$$.[/quote]kitty2:
Being exposed to the answer keys does not imply knowing the marking scheme. Many teachers are so sotong and just follow the marks indicated in the answer keys blindly. The answer keys state the various possible answers and their corresponding marks. If a particular way of answering is given zero, this teacher will go back to the class and tell their students - \"Cannot answer this way ok, no mark you know!\" And that is good only for that particular question. Ask them why (i.e. the concept) is it that no mark should be awarded if answered this way, the same teacher has nothing to offer. Yes lots of silly parents are wasting their money engaging so called teachers as \"tutors\".
:goodpost: Most of teachers have answer keys and they just follow them without knowing what they're teaching.Sometimes,different teachers give different answers :? :slapshead:
So it'll depend on your luck whether your kid will have a good teacher or not lor.Even old teacher also can't teach Maths well,always look at answer keys!!!May be your kid is from good school so will not have this problem. -
PiggyLalala:
Your remark that \"Wouldn't it be worst if the tutor teaches...\" implies that tutors are more susceptible to such mistakes than teachers. In reality, teachers are the main culprits, not tutors. Many teachers do not understand the concept behind the marking scheme and are unable to apply the same concept to other questions. They are good only to those few questions that they happened to encounter and unable to convince the students why it must be answered this way as they themselves don't know.
I do not agree with this. Wouldn't it be worst if the tutor teaches the child to answer a question in a certain way not knowing that marks will be deducted for such presentations in the PSLE markings. However, I agree with you that some tutors may explain certain concept better than the school teachers. The best is that your child has a good teacher in the school and learn what is necessary from his school teachers. That will save a lot of time and $$$.
Put it this way, how can super tutors flourish if they have been teaching students the wrong things. The students marks will drop and news will spread. Of course there are those who cheated by selecting only good students. Even then their good students marks must have also improved.
If school teachers are good enough and even better than tutors, nobody will bother with tuition. Hope I am not creating the impression that I am pro-tuition. I am not a tutor and I have always been anti-tuition. However, I concerned that our current teachers are .... and those that leave are usually the good ones. -
laughingcat:
Laughing cat, i'm already \"numb' with such teachers.In order to be inline with this thread \"All schools are GOOD school\" and therefore not interested to talk about distance or alumni. Hence I would like to share on my previous PTM because i am frustrated to keep hearing all schools are \"good\". Then later on come up with excuses saying \"apart from academics\".
So now here it goes.
Teacher : Mrs xxxx, your gal has been doing fine this SA1. Her Maths and Science have improved tremendously. Her maths is top in class and science is #3.
Me : Wow! I am so glad to hear that.
Teacher : May i know which tuition center she goes to? Appreciate if you can share that to me, so that we can encourage other children who are weak to have extended supports fast.
Me : My gal don't have any tuition class
Teacher : (looking stun but disbelieve) Then where did she learned those techniques?
Me : (looking diplomatic) I thought it was from you?
In actual fact, i was the one who teach my gal. Noti teacher :nunchuk: shame on you. :spank:
I remember when my dd was in P1, the Chinese teacher phoned me. \"Mrs xxx, you dd is very poor in Chinese, does she have pte tutor? If not, i'll suggest you get one for her\"
[from one of the \"elite schools']
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jedamum:
Last year during my boy's ptm, I heard his teacher discouraged a parent from sending her kid for science tuition because she said if the tuition centre or tutor do not know what is expected in psle answering technique, it'll do more harm than good. She said leave it to sch to teach. She is the same teacher who told me that so long kids focus in class , kid should know how the answeing technique. It iscommendable that she discourages tuition n such, but the amount of notes n guided answering worksheets, I still think if withouty guidance at home on answering techniques, my boy would not have done as well. So no matter what the teachers said, don't we still have our own intepretation of whether our kids need tuition.
This is what i call a good teacher who takes pride in their profession. -
try:
In Singapore, remedial lessons are for those very weak students. I know of a school (my dds attending in overseas which i think is a good practise) that pulls out the academically strong ones and the weak ones. The teacher will devote xx hrs per day with those academically strong ones and give them challenging projects / work. And of course teach the slower ones in a slower pace.Let me share my conversation with my P2 dd's english teacher during the meet-the-parents session. Please note that this teacher really meant well - that she was sincerely telling me that that's the state of education right now.
Me : How's my dd doing?
Teacher : She is doing well, among the top 5 but if you want her to do well in the top class in P3, she will need to improve her English especially composition.
Me : What can be done to improve her English? The stuff taught in school are very basic and not challenging.
Teacher : While I would like to give different worksheets for students of varying standards, parents may complain. The standard of the students in the class is too varied. Why don't you try sending her to TLL? With her scores, she will definitely get in.
Did I send my daughter to TLL? No, not yet.... and hopefully never. I view it as a failure on my part if I show my daughter that if one could not do well, enrichment/tuition is the way to go. I am encouraging her to try to learn from friends and ask the teacher. On my part, I know I need to guide her towards where to find help (on an adhoc basis so that they learn to explore what is learning!) since she is still so young.
Proper resources for the students is so critical to encourage self learning!
It'll be useful in the case above.
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