S'poreans to get priority for P1 places during balloting

[limlim]

Dino_Mummy:

Hi,



Stay within 1km of Chong Fu but afraid the 'within 1km' is not enough for my son to get in so thought of shifting to near Gong Shang (hubby's ex-school) to get better chance.

you don't need to be near to get better chance.. just go in by P2A..

unless.. they decide to remove P2A.... :evil:

[wayne lai]

Yes, but the rule against PRs mean they are disadvantaged when choosing popular schools.


We should try to maintain the principle on fairness and encouraging social mobility based on ability.

PRs should at least feel that they have a shot at getting to a popular school. As it is, they already have half the balloting chance of SG. Making it absolute is telling them they do not stand a chance, and telling them to go fly kite elsewhere.

FQW:

wayne lai:

The problems we face with non-Singaporeans are due to their poor integration. The best way to integrate PRs into our society is get them into our Primary schools when they are YOUNG!

Err, even with the new rule, PR kids still get into our Primary schools when they are YOUNG.

wayne lai:

With this new law against PRs, only a few more places are released for SCs. If only we were to CAP the number of alumni (e.g. to maybe 25% of available places), allocate the rest based on Phase 2B criteria, proximity, etc, we will have a lot more places available for both SCs and PRs.

If MOE is to cap alumni priority, I for one will think that it's only right they cap P2B as well. Give all these freed vacancies from the earlier 2 phrases to P2C. Why cap one (priority) phrase but not another?

Yes, I agree that we should also cap 2A1, 2A2, etc - so that more spaces are freed to 2B/2C! There is already a cap for 2B -> the remaining spaces after 2A2 are shared equally btw 2B and 2C!

[jedamum]

icylemon:

please advice.


i called up PEPS.

i am a SC staying within 1km of this school. belongs to the 2C pharse. the school told me tat based on their pass record 2C they have abt 50-60 vacancies & ard 120-130 registered for this pharse.

i fall under 2C. do you think is a risk to take and try out their 2C balloting?

Take a risk at peps only if u are willing to accept yourbackup sch in the event u failed balloting. Due to changes in registration ruling, past year data on p2c supp may not serve as a useful guide eg if PR knows their chances at peps or saps r low, they may not want to risk again in phase 2csupple n will go straight for bukit view - I think have balloting with 1km in p2cs - or lianhua - which in 1 yr had balloting with 1 km - or others in phase 2c hence these schs will have few vacancies left in phase2csupp.
Have backup sch preferably within 1 km. Then monitor this yr registration stats closely.
Good luck.

[jtoh]

mitspal:

Yes, this is good news for SC but very bad news for PR.


We are PR since 2008 and my wife was doing voluntary service for last 2 years to get admission (for our only daughter), in one of popular school.

Now, this new rule is so bad for us, that even we have no chance of getting admission in any phase. My wife is feeling that all of her efforts has gone in drain. :imconstipated:

What we have analyzed with this rule, there will be no PR student in all popular schools, except phase 1 and 2A, which would also see no PR student after 5-6 years as mostly siblings will get admission, what after that? when no more siblings left to get admission?

Please think these points
1. If all SC students are in one school and PR in other schools, do SC will send there kids in PR \"dubbed \" schools? :shock:
2. If PR students can not study with SC students how will they know Singapore culture better? :scared:

If we think of getting citizenship, it is very late now and also it is very hard to get citizenship. We can not pay $800+ every month to send our daughter to international school. :frustrated:

If you are a parent volunteer, you can register at Phase 2B. So unless there's limited vacancy at this phase and all of these are filled up by SCs, you still stand a chance of getting in at Phase 2B. Schools these days will estimate how many vacancies there are before accepting PVs so as to ensure that most, if not all PVs are accepted into the school. If there are more PVs than vacancies, then the problem lies with the school bec you will still have to go for balloting and possibly not get in even if the Singapore govt hadn't introduced this new ruling.

[wayne lai]

I agree with you. I did not challenge the priority for Alumni.


I only questioned the numbers - and I am certain that not all alumni who gets in via 2A are of the same commitment you mentioned.

In fact, I dare say that more than 50% of the alumni do not contribute financially or non-financially to their alma mater.

Freesia:

Dear Wayne,

Alumni contributes to the school. Be it financially or non financially. At many schools like RGPS, SCGS, ACS, MGS, the Alumni fund certain programmes and even plan and conduct certain extra programe for the children. They are closely bonded. They takes care of one another even they are on the street if they know they are from the same school. Thus, the contribution may not be direct. This also explains why many people wants to get in. Versus one who just lives close by; the parent has put in at least 6 years if not 10 years of their life to the school and also able to share the history of the school.

[BT9108]

phtthp:

2C > 2km -

competition amongst SCs going to be very intense.
SCs from all over SG can have a shot at super hot schools now.

if luck permit them to ballot in successfully, SCs will figure out how to shift nearer to school, after confirm strike lottery can get in hot school.

Parents will still need to do their homework. There's only a limited no. of vacancies in each school and the distance factor will come in even for SCs. No point in aiming for a top school that's more than 2 km away from home cos competition is already high for those living within 2km.

[jedamum]

mitspal:

Yes, this is good news for SC but very bad news for PR.


We are PR since 2008 and my wife was doing voluntary service for last 2 years to get admission (for our only daughter), in one of popular school.

Now, this new rule is so bad for us, that even we have no chance of getting admission in any phase. My wife is feeling that all of her efforts has gone in drain. :imconstipated:

What we have analyzed with this rule, there will be no PR student in all popular schools, except phase 1 and 2A, which would also see no PR student after 5-6 years as mostly siblings will get admission, what after that? when no more siblings left to get admission?

Please think these points
1. If all SC students are in one school and PR in other schools, do SC will send there kids in PR \"dubbed \" schools? :shock:
2. If PR students can not study with SC students how will they know Singapore culture better? :scared:

If we think of getting citizenship, it is very late now and also it is very hard to get citizenship. We can not pay $800+ every month to send our daughter to international school. :frustrated:

Have u completed pv hours in the sch?
Talk to the principal to see what is his/her views now that u have minimal chance of success in registration. I am assuming the sch u pv needs balloting in p2b.
Talk to the principal if they can put u on priority waitlist for transfer if u finish the required 40hrs pv. It is not a guarantee slot, but better than nothing.
If not, decide if it is better to focus on evaluating your chances at the nextbest option.
Good luck.

[HC_Parent]

Why should the PRs stand a chance when even we poor Singaporeans have to fight so hard to get a place in our own local schools? Like a few mentioned here, locals have little choice we cannot afford International Schools, we cannot afford to suka suka buy a property just to get a shot at balloting. Surely we citizens deserve to have some priority and privilege by being Singaporeans?


Last year we had our very own balloting experience where 20% of the applicants were PRs. It didnt matter they hv 1 slip and we hv 2, all our names were put into the SAME box. Technically we hv no priority over them. Which was so sad because many of the rich PRs took up the v limited seats of our local school!

And one of our neighbours even commented, our area is VERY popular with the people back hm because they want to send their kids to this school! And they hv no qualms about paying 400k for a 3room flat here. What about the poor newly married couples who wish to set up a home here? They can never afford!

[icylemon]

mitspal:

Yes, this is good news for SC but very bad news for PR.


We are PR since 2008 and my wife was doing voluntary service for last 2 years to get admission (for our only daughter), in one of popular school.

Now, this new rule is so bad for us, that even we have no chance of getting admission in any phase. My wife is feeling that all of her efforts has gone in drain. :imconstipated:

What we have analyzed with this rule, there will be no PR student in all popular schools, except phase 1 and 2A, which would also see no PR student after 5-6 years as mostly siblings will get admission, what after that? when no more siblings left to get admission?

Please think these points
1. If all SC students are in one school and PR in other schools, do SC will send there kids in PR \"dubbed \" schools? :shock:
2. If PR students can not study with SC students how will they know Singapore culture better? :scared:

If we think of getting citizenship, it is very late now and also it is very hard to get citizenship. We can not pay $800+ every month to send our daughter to international school. :frustrated:

Hi I tot as PV you should be under 2B pharse?

[dorisp]

wayne lai:

Yes, but the rule against PRs mean they are disadvantaged when choosing popular schools.


We should try to maintain the principle on fairness and encouraging social mobility based on ability.

PRs should at least feel that they have a shot at getting to a popular school. As it is, they already have half the balloting chance of SG. Making it absolute is telling them they do not stand a chance, and telling them to go fly kite elsewhere.

With the current system where P2A is not capped, even SCs are disadvantaged when choosing schools near their home, not to mention PRs.