S'poreans to get priority for P1 places during balloting

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wayne lai:

We should try to maintain the principle on fairness and encouraging social mobility based on ability.

Pple will tell you that it is \"fair\" to give citizen priority over PRs.. :evil: :evil: Meritocracy? being a Citizen have it's Merits.. or the merit of Your act of commitment to the nation by converting to Singapore citizenship is recognized

Ability? what \"ability\" are you talking abt for P1 admission.....? They will be judged by their ability after PSLE.. :evil: :evil:

[zoolet]

Freesia:

Dear Wayne,


Alumni contributes to the school. Be it financially or non financially. At many schools like RGPS, SCGS, ACS, MGS, the Alumni fund certain programmes and even plan and conduct certain extra programe for the children. They are closely bonded. They takes care of one another even they are on the street if they know they are from the same school. Thus, the contribution may not be direct. This also explains why many people wants to get in. Versus one who just lives close by; the parent has put in at least 6 years if not 10 years of their life to the school and also able to share the history of the school.

I echo your points. Branded schools have built to their current status due to their strong alumni. It is hard to ask ACS to forget about their Alumni. this school is famous for its strong Alumni. For every development of the school, the Alumni are consulted. The Alumni contributed alot to the school. they would like their children to reap the benefits that had invested.

[Laura02]

Actually, I don’t think PRs have to worry about not getting these "elite" schools. An Australian PR shared that state schools in Australia with a high proportion of Asian PRs usually do better than other state schools. I think, regardless of where you are, new immigrants have a "hunger" for success and are willing to "go that extra mile" to succeed. They will have an "advantage" no matter where they go - irregardless of how the system skews in favor of their citizens. Wait a few more year then look at the "neighbourhood schools" with a high proportion of PR kids. They may end up outdoing their "Elite school" competitors.

But in general, I support the move to give priority for SC. It encourages these PRs to take up citizenship and sink their roots here. But I totally disagree that alumni, and other church & clan associations should be removed. It’ll be like chopping off our roots and links to the past.

[blessed777]

PR children who go to local primary schools speak with Singaporean accent, im curious for next batch pr children that now can only go to non elite primary school where there will be more PR n foreigners what will their accent be? follow their teacher accent? or most likely will be influenced by school mates accent which is mix

[auntieM]

blessed777:

PR children who go to local primary schools speak with Singaporean accent, im curious for next batch pr children that now can only go to non elite primary school where there will be more PR n foreigners what will their accent be? follow their teacher accent? or most likely will be influenced by school mates accent which is mix

Most PR kids that I came across kept their old accent.. ..Sportswoman like Tao Li and the PR 'O'/ PSLE tops that spoke on TV interviews..sure don't sound like one of us.. ..

[Funz]

Depends on how long they have been in Singapore.


Most of my PR friends' kids sound no different from most Singaporean kids. Especially those who attend local schools. Some will have 2 accents, a totally Singaporean one that they use when with local kids and another that is closer to their parents' accent which they use when among their relatives. It can be kinda strange seeing a blue eyed blond haired 10yr old rattling off in Singlish.

I have a neighbour and had I not seen the kids conversing with their parents in Korean, I would have thought they were local born.

[blessed777]

auntieM:

blessed777:

PR children who go to local primary schools speak with Singaporean accent, im curious for next batch pr children that now can only go to non elite primary school where there will be more PR n foreigners what will their accent be? follow their teacher accent? or most likely will be influenced by school mates accent which is mix

Most PR kids that I came across kept their old accent.. ..Sportswoman like Tao Li and the PR 'O'/ PSLE tops that spoke on TV interviews..sure don't sound like one of us.. ..

Probably they came here at upper primary already, most that i ecountered either born or raised here since toddler.

[blessed777]

Funz:

Depends on how long they have been in Singapore.


It can be kinda strange seeing a blue eyed blond haired 10yr old rattling off in Singlish.

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umm.. yeah i second that

[absolut_vodka]

I'm sorry - at some point if you were a student of a certain school that is not govt funded, you would have been subjected to fund raising so definitely not true that old boys/gals do not contribute financially to the school. In all likelihood, those who have little 'affiliation' with their schools probably will not enroll their child(ren) in the school either (or these may be singles). Those with child(ren) and come from schools with strong alumni network will definitely continue their affiliations with the schools in whatever forms. Like someone said, try asking an ACS boy not to send their sons back to ACS, its practically impossible! I have a galfren who was from nanyang primary who just had a son - she has the choice of nanyang primary and ACS(J) - guess which school they are choosing for their son?


It comes back to the point again - why did the particular school become good or popular? It is because of her past, and thus its contributions from the old boys/gals!

wayne lai:

I agree with you. I did not challenge the priority for Alumni.

I only questioned the numbers - and I am certain that not all alumni who gets in via 2A are of the same commitment you mentioned.

In fact, I dare say that more than 50% of the alumni do not contribute financially or non-financially to their alma mater.

Freesia:

Dear Wayne,

Alumni contributes to the school. Be it financially or non financially. At many schools like RGPS, SCGS, ACS, MGS, the Alumni fund certain programmes and even plan and conduct certain extra programe for the children. They are closely bonded. They takes care of one another even they are on the street if they know they are from the same school. Thus, the contribution may not be direct. This also explains why many people wants to get in. Versus one who just lives close by; the parent has put in at least 6 years if not 10 years of their life to the school and also able to share the history of the school.

[iMeme]

Will this affect the current trend of parent volunteering?