S'poreans to get priority for P1 places during balloting
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Hi limlim,
Many thanks.
Aware we don’t have to move to near school but just that i still can’t get used to the north also… so thought of moving back to the east side. Furthermore, it will be very cumbersome to send my send to hubby’s ex-school if we continue to stay in the north.
My sister has a place in Bedok but she works shift so difficult to help us out on this. -
We had the ‘luxury’ of 2 schools to choose for my younger one then - either same school as son (Phase 1) or my former school (Phase 2A2). In the end, hubby decided on my former school because he wanted daughter to be in all girls’ school.
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jtoh:
Still very blur leh! :? So if a S stay at 1-2km able to have priority of a PR staying at 1km?titank:
So if a Singaporean stay at 1-2km & a PR stay at 1Km does it mean that Singaporean have priority in entering or even meant for balloting? The Singaporean 2 tickets & PR 1 ticket system still they use or scrap? :rahrah:
Yes, all Singaporeans will be admitted before PRs in the event of oversubscription. With that in place, there shouldn't be a need for the 2 ticket/1 ticket ballot anymore. But if there are more Singaporeans than places available there will still be ballotting among the Singaporeans. -
titank:
Still very blur leh! :? So if a S stay at 1-2km able to have priority of a PR staying at 1km?[/quote]Yes if both applying under same phase.jtoh:
[quote=\"titank\"]So if a Singaporean stay at 1-2km & a PR stay at 1Km does it mean that Singaporean have priority in entering or even meant for balloting? The Singaporean 2 tickets & PR 1 ticket system still they use or scrap? :rahrah:
Yes, all Singaporeans will be admitted before PRs in the event of oversubscription. With that in place, there shouldn't be a need for the 2 ticket/1 ticket ballot anymore. But if there are more Singaporeans than places available there will still be ballotting among the Singaporeans. -
no. of vacancies in phase 2b =40
no. of applicants = 45
1) no. of citizens applicants living within 1 km = 15
2) no. of pr applicants living within 1 km = 10
3) no. of citizens applicants living within 1- 2 km = 20
so (1) and (3) get in. (2) has to ballot for the remaining 5 vacancies.
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no. of vacancies in phase 2b =40
no. of applicants = 54
1) no. of citizens applicants living within 1 km = 15
2) no. of pr applicants living within 1 km = 10
3) no. of citizens applicants living within 1- 2 km = 9
4) no. of citizens applicants living outside 2km = 20
(1) and (3) get in and (4) has to ballot. no chance for (2)
thats what i know. -
Wow very good explanation, in summary 新加坡公民先！
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Just curious, which school did ur girlfriend choose? Both ACS and Nanyang are popular school, it should be tough decision.
absolut_vodka:
[/quote]I'm sorry - at some point if you were a student of a certain school that is not govt funded, you would have been subjected to fund raising so definitely not true that old boys/gals do not contribute financially to the school. In all likelihood, those who have little 'affiliation' with their schools probably will not enroll their child(ren) in the school either (or these may be singles). Those with child(ren) and come from schools with strong alumni network will definitely continue their affiliations with the schools in whatever forms. Like someone said, try asking an ACS boy not to send their sons back to ACS, its practically impossible! I have a galfren who was from nanyang primary who just had a son - she has the choice of nanyang primary and ACS(J) - guess which school they are choosing for their son?
It comes back to the point again - why did the particular school become good or popular? It is because of her past, and thus its contributions from the old boys/gals!wayne lai:
I agree with you. I did not challenge the priority for Alumni.
I only questioned the numbers - and I am certain that not all alumni who gets in via 2A are of the same commitment you mentioned.
In fact, I dare say that more than 50% of the alumni do not contribute financially or non-financially to their alma mater.
[quote=\"Freesia\"]Dear Wayne,
Alumni contributes to the school. Be it financially or non financially. At many schools like RGPS, SCGS, ACS, MGS, the Alumni fund certain programmes and even plan and conduct certain extra programe for the children. They are closely bonded. They takes care of one another even they are on the street if they know they are from the same school. Thus, the contribution may not be direct. This also explains why many people wants to get in. Versus one who just lives close by; the parent has put in at least 6 years if not 10 years of their life to the school and also able to share the history of the school. -
I reiterate my point about alumni prioritization - we should CONTINUE to have Phase 2A. It can remain prioritized ahead of P2B and P2C.
However, there should be a CAP to the numbers. Either a percentage of the total intake, or an absolute number which MOE should decide on.
When there is an over-subscription of alumni, then subject the applicants to the same prioritization rules - i.e. alumni within 1km, before 2km, before those outside 2km. (This should also help reduce the incidences of a child traveling unnecessarily long distances to school).
In fact, you could even introduce a rule to prioritize active alumni above inactive ones - the school and alumni can set such criteria. Either in terms on time contribution (similar to PV hrs) or funding (a little sensitive here..). This way, you can sieve out the good active alumni from the inactive ones.
IF you have been an active alumni, and you stay within 1km - you should have no fear....absolut_vodka:
[/quote]I'm sorry - at some point if you were a student of a certain school that is not govt funded, you would have been subjected to fund raising so definitely not true that old boys/gals do not contribute financially to the school. In all likelihood, those who have little 'affiliation' with their schools probably will not enroll their child(ren) in the school either (or these may be singles). Those with child(ren) and come from schools with strong alumni network will definitely continue their affiliations with the schools in whatever forms. Like someone said, try asking an ACS boy not to send their sons back to ACS, its practically impossible! I have a galfren who was from nanyang primary who just had a son - she has the choice of nanyang primary and ACS(J) - guess which school they are choosing for their son?
It comes back to the point again - why did the particular school become good or popular? It is because of her past, and thus its contributions from the old boys/gals!wayne lai:
I agree with you. I did not challenge the priority for Alumni.
I only questioned the numbers - and I am certain that not all alumni who gets in via 2A are of the same commitment you mentioned.
In fact, I dare say that more than 50% of the alumni do not contribute financially or non-financially to their alma mater.
[quote=\"Freesia\"]Dear Wayne,
Alumni contributes to the school. Be it financially or non financially. At many schools like RGPS, SCGS, ACS, MGS, the Alumni fund certain programmes and even plan and conduct certain extra programe for the children. They are closely bonded. They takes care of one another even they are on the street if they know they are from the same school. Thus, the contribution may not be direct. This also explains why many people wants to get in. Versus one who just lives close by; the parent has put in at least 6 years if not 10 years of their life to the school and also able to share the history of the school. -
meekfreek:
Hi,ngsc23:
I shared my experience last year at RGPS. At 2C, 42 vacancies 45 applicants. Out of 45 all within 1km, 7 Non-singaporean. So lucky that at the end of balloting, all Sin got in with 3 non-sin balloted out. So we see that there will be 10-15% vacancies up for Sin. Roughly translate to 8-10 for phase 2B and 2C.
Not sure what other popular schools composite will be.
How would one find out the \"composite\" of SC vs PR from say 2012 intake like ngsc23 did for RGPS?
I'm enrolling my SC gal into MGS phase 2B within 1km this year. Last year there were 35 available places in P2B, and 39 applicants. Does anyone know how many of those 39 applicants were PRs? How would I find out that info? Will the school tell me?
I enrolled my daughter in MGS last year under P2B, within 1 km. There were about 3-4 PRs. This will not be made known until balloting where the school will declare how many SCs vs PRs.
The historical data for the normal info can be found on http://www.mgs.sch.edu.sg/documents/0000/2329/Phase_2C_-_2011.pdf
Good luck for your enrolment this year! -
blessed777:
who tells you PRC allows dual citizenship ? Don't talk rubbishLOLMum:
we are not just talking about pr from china, we also have many malaysians and indonesians who are pr too. doubt many of them would convert to citizenship just becasue of school.
pr from china would convert to citizen, as they hv nothing to lose, they can hv dual citizenship dont they. As fr pr from neighbouring countries they wd rather send their children else where such as aussie or relocate there if possible.
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