MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni
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I expected someone to say that.. but I will address that later.
worst case of a deadlock, made them equal priority. alumni/associations and <1km all same phase.
fair or not fair to be able to buy a nearby property, that is irrelevant. What is relevant is the child is ALREADY staying here. We need not consider how they get there, like we do not question how the alumni's parent got into that sch.
How about the same argument for those whose alma mater no longer exist, or is a lousy sch.. and is it fair that, given that they already attended lousy sch, their offspring is deprived a chance to attend a good sch next door bcoz all a large number of places is taken by alumni who stay far away?
Again, back to topic.. you are considering from a personal viewpoint to choose a sch to attend. But we have to consider from the sch viewpoint on who to give the priority, given that they are fighting for a place in the SAME sch.
If you are in a thread that is title \"which school to enroll\", then all your arguments on whether send to next door sch or alumni sch all are valid and willing to travel etc are all acceptable to convince pple which sch to apply.
But in this thread on who to give priority, your personal preference is irrelevant. you like to travel or not, that is your personal freedom.absolut_vodka:
[/quote]Since this is primarily an issue with the good schools which are all more or less located in prime areas, then I would ask the same question back to you \"why should your child be entitled to the school next door just because u have the means to move next to the school? - that is fair?
Yes. this is a fair statement.
It would be a different story if the school was established in the location AFTER you moved in.
I would love to stay next door to my alma mater but I cannot afford the property there and my children should be deprived of an education in my alma mater for that? In my family, all the girls went to the same school except for my Sis - who went to a neighbourhood school 'next door' to our place for convenience. By the time she finished her PSLE (she is 7 yrs older than me)' my mom knew that she had to send me back to her alma mater because of the different standards. She even tried more than once to transfer my sis into my school but my sister couldn't get in due to the difficulty of the entrance exams. Fortunately, it all went well eventually because my mom gave her plenty of exams papers from my school (through connections) to help her bring up her grades and my sis' own hardwork, she managed to eventually graduate from a local uni. So I clearly see and know that my child has to go to my alma mater and not just any school...limlim:
[quote=\"beanstalk\"]This is a need that may be as important to one parent as it is for another whose kid needs alot of sleep.
But,
WHY your needs have more priority than another person's needs?
THAT, is THE KEY ISSUE.
And from this principle, I say, alumni/associations/connection shd Not be given priority over distance.
Where distance is same, the alumni/clan/church priority is fine and fair. That, is my stand. -
Nebbermind:
actually, I not worry got change or not.. not vested.. :evil: :evil:vicki:
Just wondering - it's done n dusted liao har? I tot the SG PR thing was the 1st change and there are more coming??
Some are hoping for more changes!!
But I like to see a healthy debate. Who knows, the policy maker may be wrong in some things they do, and there is chance to make amendments for the betterment of the country..
and, for those of us whose kids already got a place, alumni scheme is to our advantage..
but a system that weights heavily on heredity and connections just seems so wrong.... -
Hmm… How is it irrelevant? You want to talk about equality here mah - how is it equal treatment to accord those living next to the school a place simply because the parents can afford to move next to the door? Like I said, if u were already staying there and the school moved in, it is a different story. But if you move there because you want your children to study in the school and given the current high property prices, those in the lower income families are still disadvantaged isn’t it?
I am coming from an alumni point of view - I contributed to the school when I was studying there. I represented the school in various competitions, helped raised funds every year (both for the school and organizations related to the school) and my batch of students help bring the school back into top 10 ranking island wide with our results (thus contributing to its popularity today). So why shouldnt I be accord this privilege? -
limlim:
But if u take away the above, u will somehow also take away the school spirit...and eventually the school will become very ordinary.
but a system that weights heavily on heredity and connections just seems so wrong....
Alot of time, the alumni reinforce and ensure the school spirit is carried forward...we see how some schools continue to be strong not only in studies but also in sports such as in athletics, rugby, swimming, soccer....generation after generation despite student, coach, teachers, principal coming and going...
juz my 2c -
limlim:
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How about the same argument for those whose alma mater no longer exist, or is a lousy sch.. and is it fair that, given that they already attended lousy sch, their offspring is deprived a chance to attend a good sch next door bcoz all a large number of places is taken by alumni who stay far away? -
Nebbermind:
But if u take away the above, u will somehow also take away the school spirit...and eventually the school will become very ordinary.limlim:
but a system that weights heavily on heredity and connections just seems so wrong....
Alot of time, the alumni reinforce and ensure the school spirit is carried forward...we see how some schools continue to be strong not only in studies but also in sports such as in athletics, rugby, swimming, soccer....generation after generation despite student, coach, teachers, principal coming and going...
juz my 2c
I absolutely absolutely agree. -
Again, it's coming back to the point of 'good schools' - if ur school has closed down or merged, it's most probably because of low enrollment and low enrollment probably because it was not a good school so even if it was still around, you won't want your child(ren) to enroll in the school anyway. Same with lousy schools. Technically, everyone has somewhat an alma mater (would it help if the govt assigns u a 'alma-mater' for the purpose of pri. 1 registration if urs has closed down so that everyone will have a 'connection' - probably not right?) if the school is decent, most people will want to use this connection... Its people without a good connection that is crying foul. So same with using proximity, it is still a case of 'have or have nots' so rather than advocating some group shd have priority over another, why not just say scrap the entire system and ballot everyone or just let the govt assign schools randomly? That would be the fairest, isn't it?
zeemimi:
:goodpost:limlim:
How about the same argument for those whose alma mater no longer exist, or is a lousy sch.. and is it fair that, given that they already attended lousy sch, their offspring is deprived a chance to attend a good sch next door bcoz all a large number of places is taken by alumni who stay far away?
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Nebbermind:
:goodpost:
But if u take away the above, u will somehow also take away the school spirit...and eventually the school will become very ordinary.limlim:
but a system that weights heavily on heredity and connections just seems so wrong....
Alot of time, the alumni reinforce and ensure the school spirit is carried forward...we see how some schools continue to be strong not only in studies but also in sports such as in athletics, rugby, swimming, soccer....generation after generation despite student, coach, teachers, principal coming and going...
juz my 2c -
but a system that weights heavily on heredity and connections just seems so wrong…[/quote]
Agree that this is not the perfect system but will it be so right if the system weighs on the amount of $$ you have in your bank account???
At least for now if you are an alumnus of Nanyang you still have a chance to send your child there even if you live in a small 3 rm hdb at CCK !.. -
Alumni is prioritized before grassroots/PV without any cap.
In future, there may be a situation (e.g. dragon year applicants) where the alumni takes up ALL the remaining spaces in a popular school. There will not be any spaces allocated for anyone else, regardless whether you are SC, PV, grassroots, or stay within 1km!
This intake will be siblings and alumni. Period.
Bring the grassroots/PV argument in ONLY after we have imposed an alumni CAP. We should continue to focus on old boys/girls until MOE has done something about this....janet_lee88:
The issue should not be focused on old boys/girls anymore.
As of this year's P1 registration, Phase 2C will have another class of just 30 SCs once occupied by SC & PRs. New policy is with immediate effect, so much so that PRs do not have time to figure out what step to take next.
If there is any more unhappiness, perhaps look at grassroots. What does that group have to do with children's education ?
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