All About Full-Time Maids

[rykiel]

i just finish the phone interview. the maid supposedly married is seperated from the husband. i ask her how old are you, which year u born in she YES MAM!, thn i ask 1. how old are u? she replied. 2. which year u born in she replied her year. ok than nvm, i ask her y u wan come singapore. she say she separate from da husband i wan the to come to the singapore to work for mammmmmm. i tink she pre dubbed the YES MAM in her mind? last question i asked her was, do you wan to renew ur contract after 2years? or go back? she YES MAM again, than i slowly ask again, after 2years u wan stay in singapore or go back? she answer me mam stay i stay mam go i go.

[POA Teacher]

LKVM:

rykiel:

she answer me mam stay i stay mam go i go.

hahaha :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Probably she meant \"if ma'am wants me to stay, I'll stay. If ma'am wants me to go, I'll go\"

[rykiel]

POA Teacher:

LKVM:

[quote=\"rykiel\"]she answer me mam stay i stay mam go i go.

hahaha :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Probably she meant \"if ma'am wants me to stay, I'll stay. If ma'am wants me to go, I'll go\"[/quote]i guessed so too. i now found another one but she has an active fb account! i added her n in less than 5mins she accepted my friend request. she looks quite well off to me, no need wrk pattern. has 2 kids aged 6,7. didnt get to interview her over the phone yet.

[Dnls_mum]

nms1:

They may not be \"poaching\". If the maid has put herself up for transfer, the agency will market her out to potential employers. If they like her and they don't currently have a maid/their maid is about to leave, then they will naturally want her asap. It's the same as for any job - it's a negotiation between the employee, the current and future employer. Just because they are maids it isn't any different really. If the current employer has a problem with letting her go early, then don't.

I beg to disagree that their situation is no different from others. Maids are on work permit. They cannot transfer without current employers' consent, unlike Singaporeans, PRs and EP holders who can change job at their whim and fancy just by giving employers notice of resignation.

If my maid wants a transfer, she needs to get my consent. If she goes to market herself without first getting my consent, I will not sign the work permit transfer. I will send her back. Her potential employer can always arrange for her to come again if they want to take her.

I will not want to take a maid who goes to markets herself because she wants to transfer. If she does this to someone else, she'll do it to me in future too. My principle is very simple, \"don't do unto others what you don't want others to do unto u.\" All of us who have had maids know how difficult it is to train a maid.

[moonee]

Dnls_mum:

partime-mum:

Her new employer wants her ASAP. Do I hv the right to insist on releasing her at end of contract? Will they be able to transfer her out of my employment without my knowledge or any excuse that I hv to watch out?

You don't have to transfer her early. It is your right and within your control. If the new employer cannot wait, then get another maid la. You don't have to inconvenience yourself for them. If they are unreasonable, u just don't sign the trf. Cancel her work permit and send her home lor...

yup fully agree with Dnls_mum.... U are her rightful employer, no one can transfer her without u signing her release letter and if they do so its fraud cos you did not sign any thing yet... If its ur maid or agent stressing u then send her home and let her go tru all the hasstle of coming in again after 6 weeks and restart a new loan. Ha Ha :evil:

[moonee]

rykiel:

i just finish the phone interview. the maid supposedly married is seperated from the husband. i ask her how old are you, which year u born in she YES MAM!, thn i ask 1. how old are u? she replied. 2. which year u born in she replied her year. ok than nvm, i ask her y u wan come singapore. she say she separate from da husband i wan the to come to the singapore to work for mammmmmm. i tink she pre dubbed the YES MAM in her mind? last question i asked her was, do you wan to renew ur contract after 2years? or go back? she YES MAM again, than i slowly ask again, after 2years u wan stay in singapore or go back? she answer me mam stay i stay mam go i go.

I had phone interviews with filipinas a few times, I realize when they answer \"yes mamm\" its either they cant answer yr question or they dont understand what u asked. A lot of them r nt used to our accent so u got to ask slowly.

[peapot]

PM Lee now has Facebook, maybe all the employers should go post all the issues we face in hiring a maid. See what reply we get. Too bad my FB a/c got hacked if not I would have post something.

[nms1]

Dnls_mum:

nms1:

They may not be \"poaching\". If the maid has put herself up for transfer, the agency will market her out to potential employers. If they like her and they don't currently have a maid/their maid is about to leave, then they will naturally want her asap. It's the same as for any job - it's a negotiation between the employee, the current and future employer. Just because they are maids it isn't any different really. If the current employer has a problem with letting her go early, then don't.

I beg to disagree that their situation is no different from others. Maids are on work permit. They cannot transfer without current employers' consent, unlike Singaporeans, PRs and EP holders who can change job at their whim and fancy just by giving employers notice of resignation.

If my maid wants a transfer, she needs to get my consent. If she goes to market herself without first getting my consent, I will not sign the work permit transfer. I will send her back. Her potential employer can always arrange for her to come again if they want to take her.

I will not want to take a maid who goes to markets herself because she wants to transfer. If she does this to someone else, she'll do it to me in future too. My principle is very simple, \"don't do unto others what you don't want others to do unto u.\" All of us who have had maids know how difficult it is to train a maid.

I was assuming that in this case the current employer had either decided not to renew her contract or they had agreed to her being transferred. If she has gone behind her employer's back then that is a different situation.

If the current employer has agreed to it then I don't think a bit of give & take on either side does any harm.

Personally if my maid were to ask for a transfer (or go looking for one) I would allow her to go ahead but she would need to wait until I found a replacement. I wouldn't send her home unless she failed to find a new employer after the end of her contract. Maybe I'm a bit of a soft touch but I know how much it would cost her to come back and it would be unlikely that the other employer would wait for her.

FYI, EP holders are tied to their employer (unless they hold a permanent EP) which means if they lose their jobs then, in theory, they have to leave the country within 2 weeks. If they move to another employer they take the risk that the EP may be rejected.

[HAPPYH]

nms1:

Dnls_mum:

[quote=\"nms1\"]

FYI, EP holders are tied to their employer (unless they hold a permanent EP) which means if they lose their jobs then, in theory, they have to leave the country within 2 weeks. If they move to another employer they take the risk that the EP may be rejected.

[/quote]Yes, you are right. Then I wonder why did MOM need to be so relaxed with work permit transfers esp. with FDWs (esp. when they are so strict with temp. EP). There should be severe penalty on both sides (employer and FDW) if the contract is broken unless both parties agree for the transfer. Then there will be certain degree of commitment but the current situation favours FDW a lot.

Saying this does not mean that the whole cohort of us dislike FDW; it is just we all suffered in one way or other.......

[Hard Truth]

Dnls_mum:

nms1:

They may not be \"poaching\". If the maid has put herself up for transfer, the agency will market her out to potential employers. If they like her and they don't currently have a maid/their maid is about to leave, then they will naturally want her asap. It's the same as for any job - it's a negotiation between the employee, the current and future employer. Just because they are maids it isn't any different really. If the current employer has a problem with letting her go early, then don't.

I beg to disagree that their situation is no different from others. Maids are on work permit. They cannot transfer without current employers' consent, unlike Singaporeans, PRs and EP holders who can change job at their whim and fancy just by giving employers notice of resignation.

If my maid wants a transfer, she needs to get my consent. If she goes to market herself without first getting my consent, I will not sign the work permit transfer. I will send her back. Her potential employer can always arrange for her to come again if they want to take her.

I will not want to take a maid who goes to markets herself because she wants to transfer. If she does this to someone else, she'll do it to me in future too. My principle is very simple, \"don't do unto others what you don't want others to do unto u.\" All of us who have had maids know how difficult it is to train a maid.

Thank you for a very fair and logical reply.

It saved me the trouble of asking nms1 how the maid could have asked to be put on transfer in the market without the employer's consent.

It also does not make sense to compare a maid to an employee. They are two different categories