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    • K Offline
      kyp71
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      Hi Can anyone help to provide the solution for the below question using the model method rather than the Alegbra method ? This question is extracted from one of the parents who post up. But solution provided is in Alegbra. Please help !



      At Station A, the ratio of the number of children to the number of adults on a train was 4:5. At the next station, 12 children alighted and 10 adults boarded the train. The ratio of the number of children to the number of adults on the train then become 7:10. How many children were on the train at first ?

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        kyp71
        last edited by

        Hi Can anyone help to provide the solution for the below question using the model method rather than the Alegbra method ? This question is extracted from one of the parents who post up. But solution provided is in Alegbra. Please help !



        At Station A, the ratio of the number of children to the number of adults on a train was 4:5. At the next station, 12 children alighted and 10 adults boarded the train. The ratio of the number of children to the number of adults on the train then become 7:10. How many children were on the train at first ?

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          MathIzzzFun
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          superworried mum:
          Hi, can someone pls help in this question


          There are more pens in box A than Box B. 30% of the pens in box A is 60 more than 40%
          of the pens in Box B. If 5% of the pens in Box A is transferred into Box B, there will be 300 more pens in Box A than Box B.

          a) How many pens are there in Box B?
          b) How many percent less pens are there in Box B than Box A?

          Thanks
          Hi

          (3/10 A = 6/20 A, 2/5 B = 6/15 B)
          B --> 15u
          A --> 20u+ 200

          5% of A --> 1u + 10
          After transfer:
          B --> 16u + 10
          A --> 19u + 190
          A has 300 more than B
          So, 19u + 190 = 16u + 10 + 300
          1u --> 40

          ...I think you can complete the rest from here 😄

          cheers.

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            peggy
            last edited by

            MathIzzzFun:
            superworried mum:

            Hi, can someone pls help in this question


            There are more pens in box A than Box B. 30% of the pens in box A is 60 more than 40%
            of the pens in Box B. If 5% of the pens in Box A is transferred into Box B, there will be 300 more pens in Box A than Box B.

            a) How many pens are there in Box B?
            b) How many percent less pens are there in Box B than Box A?

            Thanks

            Hi

            (3/10 A = 6/20 A, 2/5 B = 6/15 B)
            B --> 15u
            A --> 20u+ 200

            5% of A --> 1u + 10
            After transfer:
            B --> 16u + 10
            A --> 19u + 190
            A has 300 more than B
            So, 19u + 190 = 16u + 10 + 300
            1u --> 40

            ...I think you can complete the rest from here 😄

            cheers.

            Hi MathIzzzfun,

            Why is it A ---- 20U + 200 ? Understood for the 20U but not the 200.

            Thanks.

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              tianzhu
              last edited by

              kyp71:
              Hi Can anyone help to provide the solution for the below question using the model method rather than the Alegbra method ? This question is extracted from one of the parents who post up. But solution provided is in Alegbra. Please help !



              At Station A, the ratio of the number of children to the number of adults on a train was 4:5. At the next station, 12 children alighted and 10 adults boarded the train. The ratio of the number of children to the number of adults on the train then become 7:10. How many children were on the train at first ?
              Hi

              MD is one of the ways to solve this question.

              Another approach is to use “Units and Parts”

              At first
              Children: Adults ------ 4 units: 5 units

              Change
              Children: Adults ------ -12 : 10

              In the end
              Children: Adults ------ 7 parts: 10 parts

              Equalise the parts or cross multiply.

              4 units – 12 ------- 7 parts
              (x10)
              40 units – 120 ------ 70 parts


              5 units + 10 ------ 10 parts
              (x7)
              35 units + 70 ------- 70 parts


              40 units – 120 ------ 35 units + 70
              5 units ------- 190
              1 unit ------ 38

              Number of children at first ------ 38*4 ------- 152

              Using MD

              Due to time constraints, I'll provide some pointers instead of slide presentation.

              At first
              Children ------- 4 units -------8 units
              Adults ------- 5 units -------- 10 units

              Draw 1 box to show 1 unit.

              12 children alighted
              10 adults boarded

              In the end
              1 part ------ 1 unit (box) + 1

              Children ------- 7 units + 7
              Adults -------- 10 units + 10

              Compare the MD for children.

              7 units + 7 + 12 ------- 8 units
              1 unit ------- 19

              Number of children at first -------19*8 ------152


              Best wishes

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                MathIzzzFun
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                peggy:
                MathIzzzFun:

                [quote=\"superworried mum\"]Hi, can someone pls help in this question


                There are more pens in box A than Box B. 30% of the pens in box A is 60 more than 40%
                of the pens in Box B. If 5% of the pens in Box A is transferred into Box B, there will be 300 more pens in Box A than Box B.

                a) How many pens are there in Box B?
                b) How many percent less pens are there in Box B than Box A?

                Thanks

                Hi

                (3/10 A = 6/20 A, 2/5 B = 6/15 B)
                B --> 15u
                A --> 20u+ 200

                5% of A --> 1u + 10
                After transfer:
                B --> 16u + 10
                A --> 19u + 190
                A has 300 more than B
                So, 19u + 190 = 16u + 10 + 300
                1u --> 40

                ...I think you can complete the rest from here 😄

                cheers.

                Hi MathIzzzfun,

                Why is it A ---- 20U + 200 ? Understood for the 20U but not the 200.

                Thanks.[/quote]B--> 15u, so 40% = 6u
                30% of A is 60 more than 40% of B,
                So, 30% of A = 6u + 60
                10% of A = 2u + 20
                1005 of A = 20u + 200

                cheers.

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                  speedmaths.012624com
                  last edited by

                  superworried mum:
                  Hi, can someone pls help in this question


                  There are more pens in A than B.
                  30% of the pens in A is 60 more than 40% of the pens in B.
                  If 5% of the pens in A is transferred into B, there will be 300 more pens in A than B.

                  a) How many pens are there in B?
                  b) How many percent less pens are there in B than A?

                  Thanks
                  Hi,

                  Lets try to solve this using the Advanced Model Method (or Bags and Boxes).
                  (Pupils used to the simple Model Method may picture / think of a Box as a Rectangle, and a Bag as a Circle)

                  Let there be 100 Bags (of pens) in A.
                  Let there be 100 Boxes (of pens) in B.

                  (30% of the pens in A is 60 more than 40% of the pens in B.)
                  30 bags = 40 Boxes + 60

                  (If 5% of the pens in A is transferred into B, there will be 300 more pens in A than B.)
                  95 bags = 100 Boxes + 5 Bags + 300
                  90 bags = 100 Boxes + 300

                  30 bags = 40 Boxes + 60
                  (x 3)
                  90 bags = 120 Boxes + 180

                  90 bags = 100 Boxes + 300

                  90 bags = 120 Boxes + 180 = 100 Boxes + 300
                  120 Boxes + 180 = 100 Boxes + 300
                  20 Boxes + 180 = 300
                  20 Boxes = 120
                  10 Boxes = 60

                  B = 100 Boxes = ??

                  90 bags = 100 Boxes + 300
                  90 bags = ??
                  10 bags = ??

                  A = 100 bags = ??

                  Can you solve from here?

                  Hope this helps.

                  The Advanced Model Method (or Bags and Boxes Method) may be found in the book Raffles Maths Tricks - Volume 1; which has been available in local book stores since 2006.

                  We will demonstrate this method at our Parents’ Workshop.
                  Please see thread on the Happenings forum.

                  Cheers


                  speedmaths.com

                  .

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                    peggy
                    last edited by

                    Please help with this CA1 from Ai Tong.


                    In a survey, some pupils were asked if they preferred volleyball or table tennis. 13/20 of the pupils chose volleyball, 75% of the pupils chose table tennis and 5% of the pupils did not choose any of the two sports. Given that 90 pupils chose both volleyball and table tennis, how many pupils took part in the survey ?

                    thank you !

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                      tianzhu
                      last edited by

                      peggy:
                      Please help with this CA1 from Ai Tong.


                      In a survey, some pupils were asked if they preferred volleyball or table tennis. 13/20 of the pupils chose volleyball, 75% of the pupils chose table tennis and 5% of the pupils did not choose any of the two sports. Given that 90 pupils chose both volleyball and table tennis, how many pupils took part in the survey ?

                      thank you !
                      Hi

                      13/20 ------ 65% ------- volleyball
                      75% ------- table tennis

                      100% - 5% ------- 95% -------- pupils who chose any of the two sports.

                      140% - 95% ------ 45% -------- pupils who chose both volleyball and table tennis

                      45% ------ 90

                      100% ------- 200

                      Best wishes

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                        superksmum
                        last edited by

                        Pls help with this question:


                        A lion and zebra were 138m apart. Upon seeing the lion, the zebra ran away from the lion at average speed of 16m/s. The lion observed the zebra for 1 minute before giving chase at an average speed of 25m/s. From the time it started giving chase, how long did the lion take to catch up with the zebra?

                        Thank you.

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