MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

[verykiasu2010]

limlim:

Jav:

How about those use fake (rental) address? I always heard so & so change their address on the first days of school

The correct approach is fine tune the system to eliminate abuse..

so, tune the system with fines ?

[Jav]

winchester:

Jav:

Maybe gahmen will introduce 'fine' system as they always do. Like foreigners always say Singapore is a 'fine' city !

i think if found out to have committed fraud by false declaration, child can be kicked out of school.

Then poor child suffer due to the act of the parents? The key is how to deter those who intends to abuse the system.

[LOLMum]

Jav:

winchester:

[quote=\"Jav\"]Maybe gahmen will introduce 'fine' system as they always do. Like foreigners always say Singapore is a 'fine' city !

i think if found out to have committed fraud by false declaration, child can be kicked out of school.

Then poor child suffer due to the act of the parents? The key is how to deter those who intends to abuse the system.[/quote]
The father of the child who who used a fake address (rented the address) was jailed (correct me if I am wrong) and named in the papers.

[verykiasu2010]

LOLMum:

The father of the child who who used a fake address (rented the address) was jailed (correct me if I am wrong) and named in the papers.

look at it from another perspective : after the father came out from jail, he can tell the kid how great a sacrificial love he has for them - to the extent of what he did and went to jail for it ..... but alas, misplaced love

[dorisp]

verykiasu2010:

look at it from another perspective : after the father came out from jail, he can tell the kid how great a sacrificial love he has for them - to the extent of what he did and went to jail for it ..... but alas, misplaced love

Yes you are certainly right but well, I think this is a very unwise idea.........

:roll:

[limlim]

verykiasu2010:

limlim:

[quote=\"Jav\"]How about those use fake (rental) address? I always heard so & so change their address on the first days of school

The correct approach is fine tune the system to eliminate abuse..

so, tune the system with fines ?[/quote]Tune with criteria & checks etc..

e.g. of Criteria :

e.g. is the property owned? or rented?

Length of stay? for rented, if < x years, not eligible etc..

If rented, show tenancy agreement that last 6 years at least, for e.g. else, not eligible. (shows their intention clearly)

e.g. of checks :

for suspicious cases, run random checks (e.g. newly bought properties/rentals.. are they staying in it?)

Letterbox/email/hotline for whistle blowers (Best.. lowest costs to implement).

[jtoh]

Jav:

winchester:

[quote=\"Jav\"]Maybe gahmen will introduce 'fine' system as they always do. Like foreigners always say Singapore is a 'fine' city !

i think if found out to have committed fraud by false declaration, child can be kicked out of school.

Then poor child suffer due to the act of the parents? The key is how to deter those who intends to abuse the system.[/quote]You have to hit where it hurts most and parents would be most careful not to hurt their own children. So having a big deterrant of having your child kicked out of the desired school would make most parents think twice about cheating the system. Fines will hardly make a dent if all they have to do if found out is to write a cheque. So the key to deter would-be abusers is to have the government make spot checks every so often.

[phtthp]

How to have government make regular spot check every now and then ?

deploy what kind of resources to spot check regularly ?

[limlim]

First and foremost, provide an avenue for whistle blowers to feedback.


Next, the system should highlight suspicious data. Just run a program to scan thru the database now and then. Not need to deploy much manpower. If encountered questionable cases, then alert officers to do a manual checking/verification of data, before deciding whether to deploy an officer to do a house visit/spot check, or just call the fixed line from office to look for the kids and check with telecom on the residential address, to check if they’re really staying at the address given etc…

[LOLMum]

Very hard…especially if these are your friends and family…