By Election for Hougang

[verykiasu2010]

MMM:

hokkiengirl:

[quote=\"MMM\"]I personally like the part and which spoke our mind that if ruling party care, they would have sent their BEST candidate. Eg. Ong Ye Kung who is of ministerial quality as mentioned by PM during last election. So have their sent their BEST?????

Given that Mr Desmond Choo has been working the ground in Hougang for a number of years, it would be strange to suddenly choose Ong Ye Kung, wouldn't it?

Well... if PAP kept questioning WP if they have sent the BEST person, then they should also question themselves. So is DC the BEST????

I ever told dh before by-election that, I will only get sway if they send someone strong and solid. Otherwise.... it's like disregarding HG. It was in a joking manner. DH was like yah OYK is good. So we can associate when WP talked about it tonight.[/quote]they could have sent George Yeo, the best loser from PAP side

[Chenonceau]

verykiasu2010:

they could have sent George Yeo, the best loser from PAP side

Ouch!

[Chenonceau]

hokkiengirl:

I see. I don't live in HG, but I was thinking that the 'best' person for the job (applicable to both parties) would be the person who has been on the ground in HG for a while as he would understand the concerns of the residents better. It's very interesting for me as a non-HG resident to know that OYK would be a considered a better option than DC by some in this case! Cos it's about national issues above local issues? Thanks for sharing your views.

It's possibly because people understand that national policy is more likely to bring about a CURE whilst local issues address only symptoms?
[quote]Source: http://singaporemind.blogspot.com/2012/05/you-dont-have-to-tell-hougang-how-to.html

[Desmond Choo] said he had to help many with medical care, financial and legal problems. But this type of piecemeal efforts without changing the underlying policies that cause these problems will not take us anywhere. In fact, the election of people like Desmond Choo will help only to perpetuate failed schemes and policies of the PAP. Organising a 1 day free TCM session for the sick is not going to solve the problems of our healthcare care system. Helping residents temporarily with their finances by directing them to piecemeal aid and charities is not going to remove the root cause of their problems. The more Desmond Choo goes along this approach, the more people will need help because the PAP will keep its policies intact without major change. Desmond Choo said he approached charities and individuals rather than appeal to the ministers in his party to make changes that will solve these problems in the long term. The more Desmond Choos we have in parliament, the more the status quo will remain, more people will need help and the PAP MPs can proclaim they are very helpful, kind and caring people.[/quote]

[hokkiengirl]

[quote="Chenonceau"][quote="hokkiengirl"]


It’s possibly because people understand that national policy is more likely to bring about a CURE whilst local issues address only symptoms?

[quote]

Yup, probably. I am haven’t commented on the Vicious Pri Maths cycle thingy as my kids are not in upper pri, so I have no real concept of how bad it is. However, as someone who voted for PAP the last GE, I feel sad that the Education Minister has chosen not to engage parents in a meaningful discussion with regard to this topic. It’s not something that MOE can just say, ‘You’re wrong; we’re right; end of discussion’. I feel that the PAP has actually done some good work and there are good ministers around (yes, yes, I know it’s far from perfect. Please don’t flame me, people). It’s just very frustrating when some others don’t realise the very real possibility of a political backlash when it comes to issues like these. Sigh. How come they don’t read the KSP forum???

[verykiasu2010]

hokkiengirl:

Yup, probably. I am haven't commented on the Vicious Pri Maths cycle thingy as my kids are not in upper pri, so I have no real concept of how bad it is. However, as someone who voted for PAP the last GE, I feel sad that the Education Minister has chosen not to engage parents in a meaningful discussion with regard to this topic. It's not something that MOE can just say, 'You're wrong; we're right; end of discussion'. I feel that the PAP has actually done some good work and there are good ministers around (yes, yes, I know it's far from perfect. Please don't flame me, people). It's just very frustrating when some others don't realise the very real possibility of a political backlash when it comes to issues like these. Sigh. How come they don't read the KSP forum????

Minister Heng comes from MAS, I guess he will need SOME TIME to learn the rope

Since he says all schools are same good, we say all ministers have to be equally good lor

[Strparent]

fightingmom:

catch bits and pieces of the rally speeches ...


Anyone be kind enough to put up the videos again ?

Showing my parents tomorrow when i visit them...

TIA

fightingmom,

a recap of some of the rally speeches on 24 May 2012, enjoy :celebrate:

Low Thia Khiang - bery long speech in Mandarin, Teochew and English
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKb60obwqPQ][/youtube]

Khaw Boon Wan
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9fBD-Ywczs][/youtube]

Sylvia Lim
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xpFdhwPp4w][/youtube]

Heng Swee Keat
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tUFEXYoUE][/youtube]

Chen Show Mao
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqP2Vvb6AKE][/youtube][/quote]

Pritam Singh
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haWXlr2K1QY][/youtube]

Gerald Giam
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w4YFb1eRuA][/youtube]

Yu-Foo Yee Shoon
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAWzKZ-be3g][/youtube]

Png Eng Huat
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIk9hAAPejk][/youtube]

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOOvVaPGqrs][/youtube]

[fightingmom]

:thankyou: :thankyou: Strparent!

[MMM]

verykiasu2010:

I had two screens on, one WP and one PAP, plus a conference call going on ..... my counterparts overseas were like ....'what is going on ??' .... :rotflmao:

Not on mute ????

I was actually wondering if the WP cheers will drown the HG stadium crowd...

Just read about DC dropping a tear or two for the HG voters.... Omg.... will he cry when he get attacked in the parliament next time.... but errr.... he is not opposition so he should not get attack. The aunties and uncles/ big sisters and brothers will protect him.

Sorry huh... I am not touched by a tear or two. I always see that in children when they try to get what they want. No sympathy votes.

[hquek]

Hee, he better dun make it into a habit. TPL mentioned about someone before for dropping tears right? Anyway, he was only in HG for a year right? Not twenty, not sure how he got so emo about it leh.

[MMM]

hokkiengirl:

I see. I don't live in HG, but I was thinking that the 'best' person for the job (applicable to both parties) would be the person who has been on the ground in HG for a while as he would understand the concerns of the residents better. It's very interesting for me as a non-HG resident to know that OYK would be a considered a better option than DC by some in this case! Cos it's about national issues above local issues? Thanks for sharing your views.

Actually is HG so different from the rest of Spore???? I feel that the singaporeans' concerns are similar regardless where you live in. So it's still a national issue. What is a local issue???? Maybe it doesn't really apply to us as we stay in a private estate. In addition, we are not the type who would go see a MP. So actually does it really matter who wins or who is our MP??? Probably no. So whether it is OYK or DC it doesn't matter. It's just that since they are harping on the \"best candidate\", then to us, OYK being a ministerial quality is obviously a better candidate then DC?????

With our kids in primary school, I am bothered by their future. Eg. education, will more places in university go to sponsored foreigners who are not bonded and leave after a while. While our kids cannot get a place because of that policy and we've to support them through overseas education and for those who cannot afford, this means the kids have to join the workforce earlier ????

I am not against foreign talents but in the last company I worked for, it was 40% Indians, 40% pinoys, 10% msian and 10% Sporeans..... These are not some specialised jobs that can only be performed by foreigners. It was marketing, supply chain, finance jobs that a spore grad can do. Yes, I acknowledge that the pinoys are good in service industry but what happens then to those aunties who used to hold such jobs ????

What about the train systems???? I seldom take the train and yesterday I had to as I had a meeting in town and I wanted to ensure I was not stuck in traffic since I wanted to be home in time for rally. It was packed like sardine and people couldn't get in till the 2nd and 3rd or 4th train.... I was counting my blessings that I don't have to go through that everyday.

In speaking with my boss's boss from US yesterday, she was commenting that things in Singapore are very expensive. Eg. housing, cars and also the retail goods. She is a high income earner but yet she cannot bring herself to shop. She can now understand why people shop like crazy in US.... She even encouraged me to do more shopping when I am there next week.... Then at the rally... I heard them commenting that singapore is now the 9th most expensive cities to live in. Yes it's true.... how are our kids going to afford even HDB flats in the future???

Also my impression of PAP MPs are people who goes round the estate only during election. The elitest sitting high up in the ivory tower who has forgotten the man on the street. So just imagine how I felt when I saw CSM a couple of times in the last 1 year in the estate by himself and connecting with people. I like it!!!

For me, I feel that it's all about control and checks. We saw how the government start to apologise and listen after the last election. Maybe they seriously do need a wake up call so they don't become complacent.

But I am pro PAP in representing Singapore. Though we need control and checks, we need a stable government as well to attract businesses and investment. I don't think losing 1 seat will cause them much harm since it was never theirs to begin with. As we also do not have sufficient talent in the opposition so it's not really likely for opposition to be stronger than them in the short term.

Just my personal view as a HG voter.