Is two-week vacation leave after only one year reasonable?

[POA Teacher]

The word for "responsibility" in Indon is "tanggung jawab"

[icemochi]

asking for pay advances and asking for 2 weeks leave could mean she has other issues to settle that she’s not telling you. e.g. going for abortion or really as she says some family issues.

on the good side, she’s paying the costs herself.

Since she asked, if you don’t let her go, she’s probably going to be unhappy. and since she thinks its ok to ask for pay advances, you have to handle this in the future as well. If you want her back, have her know she worked for 1 year and she’s already credited with some end-of-contract bonus. This will increase the chance of her coming back.

[sad citizen]

Metis:

Hi all, would appreciate your views and advice. My maid has been with me for a year and asked for two-week home leave to attend her brother's wedding at her own cost.

Since kids are aged 11 and 15 already, quite independent means the issue of her taking 2 weeks no pay leave is still workable for you. Your kids can pack food or you order tingkat meals. Housework close one eye do lah.

If I'm the one paying for my own airfare, I would also prefer to have a longer break like 2 weeks or 1 mth in home country.

If you're afraid she's heading for no return (I'll be worried too), I suggest this:
If her pay day is 15th of the month, let her go before 15th. If she ask about salary, say you don't give salary advance. Salary will be paid on her return, not a cent less (minus the no pay days). Calculate clearly to her, her own cost include $?? for airfare, $?? for home leave processing, etc. If the actual amount shock her, best!! :xedfingers:

If she insists she must be paid early, let her know, she's rich to finance her own trip back, she should be able to sustain her expenses till her return. Let her consider 'brother wedding' more important or save her own money.

Mine also has lots of reasons to go early home leave. One time said son misses her badly, must go back. Then, said son graduating, must go back. Another time said her sister who worked many years elsewhere going back for Xmas, she insists to have a huge Xmas family reunion ... now she said, she'll work till contract ends and find expat to work with :slapshead: :pokeeye:

[Metis]

Thanks all so much for your suggestions and warnings! Will check figures and present them to her with analysis. But she seems to have a very weak grasp of financial management concepts. I also beginning to wonder if I should just bite the bullet and… live without a maid!

[Hard Truth]

Some food for thought:


"I am uncomfortable because this request to take leave comes after two recent requests for advance pay".

Did you grant those requests or did you turn them down?
So what would be the salary situation if she should leave and not come back?

1 Are you in arrears with her salary?
2 Breakeven?
3 She still owes you money because of the advances that you have given? If this is the case then she is taking YOUR money to go back and presenting to you nicely that SHE will pay the costs.

"2 weeks home leave"…Is this paid or unpaid (Am presuming it is unpaid)

Lynn2010 post a good question "Home leave application cost about $300 (heard from friends). Who bears the cost?

After you have worked out the financials, it is more relevant to yourself then to the maid.

Why should she care about your presentation if the bottom line is that she is ahead if she does not come back?

[Imp75]

What is home leave application?

[Metis]

Hi Hard Truth, I had granted her requests for advance pay. :roll: Just went to seek advice from the agent. Agent said I shouldn't have advanced so much Told me to consult them next time if any such requests were raised again. The agent offered to counsel her. Agent was of view that if I was agreeable to home leave, already considered very good. 2 weeks really pushing it! I pay on the first of each month and had paid her for the month of July. Her trip home is supposed to be last two weeks of October. So I will be careful now and not advance any more in case she decides not to return! Yeah, it will be unpaid home leave.

Oh, just now she told me that her bro would be paying for the air tickets. I am really weary of her now - when she asked me for advance pay a few days ago, she had told me that her bro could not help pay their mother's debt due to wedding expenses, hence the burden fell to her. It is so weird to prioritise air tickets over settling of debts!!

[Hard Truth]

My best wishes to you and I hope you have a happy ending to tell us later

Metis:

Hi Hard Truth, I had granted her requests for advance pay. :roll: Just went to seek advice from the agent. Agent said I shouldn't have advanced so much Told me to consult them next time if any such requests were raised again. The agent offered to counsel her. Agent was of view that if I was agreeable to home leave, already considered very good. 2 weeks really pushing it! I pay on the first of each month and had paid her for the month of July. Her trip home is supposed to be last two weeks of October. So I will be careful now and not advance any more in case she decides not to return! Yeah, it will be unpaid home leave.
Oh, just now she told me that her bro would be paying for the air tickets. I am really weary of her now - when she asked me for advance pay a few days ago, she had told me that her bro could not help pay their mother's debt due to wedding expenses, hence the burden fell to her. It is so weird to prioritise air tickets over settling of debts!!

[Metis]

Hi sad citizen, of all the requests for home leave by your maid, which did you accede to?

[3Boys]

Metis:

Hi all, would appreciate your views and advice. My maid has been with me for a year and asked for two-week home leave to attend her brother's wedding at her own cost. The period coincides with my office peak period and I asked her to reconsider shortening it to a week or 10 days. She won't budge. Is she taking advantage of me or am I not considerate enough of her personal feelings for this family event? Thanks!

Tough call. I think you are within your rights to insist on your point of view here, but could be damaging.