Real reason behind Singapore’s obsession with tuition

[Imami]

atutor2001:

optimistforum:

.... I get the feeling, frm recent posts, that Singapore educaton success is mostly attributable to out of school tutoring rather than the perceived quality of your schools. Am I right? ....

An average kid (quite hardworking) without tuition or supplementary exercises from parents will be very lucky to get 220 in PSLE, generally will be less than 210. Any normal playful kid without tuition or supplementary exercises from parents is guaranteed 200 and below. Relevant extra work is definitely needed to achieve 240 and above.

Really??

[verykiasu2010]

Imami:

atutor2001:

[quote=\"optimistforum\"].... I get the feeling, frm recent posts, that Singapore educaton success is mostly attributable to out of school tutoring rather than the perceived quality of your schools. Am I right? ....

An average kid (quite hardworking) without tuition or supplementary exercises from parents will be very lucky to get 220 in PSLE, generally will be less than 210. Any normal playful kid without tuition or supplementary exercises from parents is guaranteed 200 and below. Relevant extra work is definitely needed to achieve 240 and above.

Really??[/quote]fortune telling :siam:

[Imami]

verykiasu2010:

Imami:

[quote=\"atutor2001\"]
An average kid (quite hardworking) without tuition or supplementary exercises from parents will be very lucky to get 220 in PSLE, generally will be less than 210. Any normal playful kid without tuition or supplementary exercises from parents is guaranteed 200 and below. Relevant extra work is definitely needed to achieve 240 and above.

Really??

fortune telling :siam: [/quote] :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[verykiasu2010]

Chenonceau:

Misleading only if taken out of context. If you read her whole post the context is clear lah... BTW, need investment advice. PM-ed you. Dun mind... help help ok? :please:

PM replied.

[Chenonceau]

verykiasu2010:

Chenonceau:

Misleading only if taken out of context. If you read her whole post the context is clear lah... BTW, need investment advice. PM-ed you. Dun mind... help help ok? :please:

PM replied.

Thanks a bunch!

[Chenonceau]

verykiasu2010:

you have heard of the \"silent majority\" and hence what you hear is from the minority

For a long time, the govt thought that only the minority was unhappy about...
(1) ministerial pay
(2) transport issues
(3) housing issues

A bit premature to assume this in the light of the following...

coast:

Chenonceau:

It says a lot when no one could be bothered to **LIKE** this until now - http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC120615-0000013/Its-not-the-tool,-but-our-own-insecurities
... and Ian Tan's replies to it got liked a whole lot

... and this letter was **LIKED** 210 times in comparison to the link above - http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC120614-0000109/A-parents-battlefield-approach-to-education

Hi hi hi, I learnt something from you again!

Not sure if my eyes are playing tricks on me but Ian Tan's first 2 posts:-

Standards are unrealistic
http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC120502-0000026/Standards-are-unrealistic

6200 likes!!!

It's a strong foundation that counts
http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC120509-0000070/Its-a-strong-foundation-that-counts

628 likes!!!

I do not think MOE has replied? Or did I miss it?

Go, Ian go!

[Chenonceau]

This said… I do like the IP. It is less exam orientated (so yes… this will mean that weaker or unmotivated students may be less well served). However, it does provide an abundance of learning over and above exams like ‘O’ and ‘A’.


Like jtoh said… it is relevant to some students.

[Imami]

I have always known that my niece and nephew are likely to be above average (note: just above average hor, not cream of the crop) and they are most likely to have good attitude and study/exam technics (because both parents are mba holders and my brother is a child slave driver! Having first hand experience, I know how well my brother can coach and how hard he drives his ‘students’. But no, he is not in the teaching profession. He just like to teach.


I have always watch the twins and their parents because they offer another view to the norm. They have no tuition, quite different in today’s context right? The twins had a chance to be enrolled in a branded pri sch but the parents chose a neighborhood school instead.

I know 254 is a good score but I have to say I am very very surprised when I get to know that ip is for the top 10% of the cohort. And no, they didn’t do it via affiliation from pri sch/dsa etc. The twins did it based on their results. The only nudge the parents did was to request for my niece to transfer from nan hua sec to this ip sch so that the twins can be in the same school (the request was accepted).

In a way, they give me hope - that it is possible to emerge at the top without tuition. I doubt my child is of the same calibre but at least the twins are successful example that I know of.

[Chenonceau]

Imami:

I have always known that my niece and nephew are likely to be above average (note: just above average hor, not cream of the crop) and they are most likely to have good attitude and study/exam technics (because both parents are mba holders and my brother is a child slave driver! Having first hand experience, I know how well my brother can coach and how hard he drives his 'students'. But no, he is not in the teaching profession. He just like to teach.

This fits my family profile somewhat. My kids have no tuition, but I can and like to teach.

[jtoh]

verykiasu2010:

i think people who has no knowledge of the IP content and system should not make sweeping statements as if it is gospel truth. that is very misleading and unhelpful to other readers who may mistake it to be the norm

I agree.