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    Real reason behind Singapore’s obsession with tuition

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      Imami
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      limlim:
      Imami:

      When I first heard the \"teach less, learn more\", I was thinking simi lai eh? How can that happen? But I thought to myself,\"ai ya u duno lah... New technology\" but after reading this much, hey - I am not alone leh 🙂


      teach less at national schools..

      learn more at private schools..

      :rotflmao: yup, sounds right to make sense out of \"teach less, learn more\"

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        limlim
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        If school teach lesser and lesser.. but testing more and more..


        this is what could happen..

        http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NWOLtFd211g/Ts1FkXFICxI/AAAAAAAAAJs/k6cRDqg_DmU/s400/mismouni.jpg\">

        the elites gets more advantage.. and the poor became more deprived (of the teachings in public school)..

        and the income gaps widens...

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          optimistforum
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          limlim, that same is true here in England.

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            Jennifer
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            limlim:
            Imami:

            When I first heard the \"teach less, learn more\", I was thinking simi lai eh? How can that happen? But I thought to myself,\"ai ya u duno lah... New technology\" but after reading this much, hey - I am not alone leh 🙂


            teach less at national schools..

            learn more at private schools..

            We are taking away the innate drive for knowledge via self-study, self exploration?

            I think it is dangerous to think we can only learn in some institutions, be it govt or private.

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              cherryc
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              Chenonceau:
              Let us not dispute the notion of whether parents are kiasu. Let us acknowledge that parents are kiasu in the way the following 2 bloggers have acknowledged the phenomenon.

              (1) http://hedgehogcomms.blogspot.sg/2012/06/education-stress-whose-fault.html

              (2) http://8percentpa.blogspot.sg/search/label/Education

              There remains systemic solutions to temper the kiasu-ism. Why is it that Humankind can dam up rivers, lay optical fibre into the ocean floor, FLY, search for a cancer cure... but so easily admit defeat in the face of Parent Kiasu-ism without even trying to brainstorm systemic solutions or listen to those proffered by fellow countrymen?

              The issue boils down to weak governance by MOE.
              I guess we all have varying degrees of kiasuism in us but what underlies the kiasuism is the love for our kids and the concern for the future of our nation. In this forum, we have many different types of parents with different kinds of kids, some educated ones with IP-calibre kids, some v educated ones with non-performing kids, some not very educated ones with smart kids in need of more help or some totally clueless, non-kiasuparents whom I doubt they will even bother to log into this forum.

              We should put aside our many differences and just take a look at our education system now, are there areas for improvements ? Especially, if there are so many people going for tuitions and the kids not learning the basics ?? What is stopping the teachers from giving their best to the kids ? Some parents may be very happy thinking my kids are high-fliers , none of my concerns and snub at the parents who complain no end but one can't be so sure the non-academic ones today may not be more successful one day or worst create more problems in the society for the academic ones in future. In fact, I will be more happy if the very educated ones with IP-calibre kids to contribute their wisdom of their experience . To me, 1+1+1= Infinity and 1-1-1-1=- (Infinity)

              We all have limited resources whether is time or money. For the kids, it is definitely their time and energy. By having this generation of kids, 90% of them in tuition many times a week, it means they play less, sleep less, see their parents less, see their grandparents less, communicate to other people less, etc. There will be some impact in their lives in future. If the school can teach effectively, maybe we can decrease the percentage instead of seeing it getting worst?

              For money wise, I know of taxi drivers driving additional hours to pay for tuition, 1 parent in another thread cutting insurance and some people cutting their parents' medical expenses to fund tuition. And I have not even covered the amount of money wasted changing from one unsuitable tuition center to another or changing non-performing ex-teachers type of tutors. This unnecessary expenses can do so much to enhance our lives in other ways. Yes tuition is inevitable for some but not >90% students. It is a mockery to our education system and amidst our kiasuism among ourselves, we all may lose to the external environment.

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                Chenonceau
                last edited by

                cherryc:
                Chenonceau:

                Let us not dispute the notion of whether parents are kiasu. Let us acknowledge that parents are kiasu in the way the following 2 bloggers have acknowledged the phenomenon.

                (1) http://hedgehogcomms.blogspot.sg/2012/06/education-stress-whose-fault.html

                (2) http://8percentpa.blogspot.sg/search/label/Education

                There remains systemic solutions to temper the kiasu-ism. Why is it that Humankind can dam up rivers, lay optical fibre into the ocean floor, FLY, search for a cancer cure... but so easily admit defeat in the face of Parent Kiasu-ism without even trying to brainstorm systemic solutions or listen to those proffered by fellow countrymen?

                The issue boils down to weak governance by MOE.

                I guess we all have varying degrees of kiasuism in us but what underlies the kiasuism is the love for our kids and the concern for the future of our nation. In this forum, we have many different types of parents with different kinds of kids, some educated ones with IP-calibre kids, some v educated ones with non-performing kids, some not very educated ones with smart kids in need of more help or some totally clueless, non-kiasuparents whom I doubt they will even bother to log into this forum.

                We should put aside our many differences and just take a look at our education system now, are there areas for improvements ? Especially, if there are so many people going for tuitions and the kids not learning the basics ?? What is stopping the teachers from giving their best to the kids ? Some parents may be very happy thinking my kids are high-fliers , none of my concerns and snub at the parents who complain no end but one can't be so sure the non-academic ones today may not be more successful one day or worst create more problems in the society for the academic ones in future. In fact, I will be more happy if the very educated ones with IP-calibre kids to contribute their wisdom of their experience . To me, 1+1+1= Infinity and 1-1-1-1=- (Infinity)

                We all have limited resources whether is time or money. For the kids, it is definitely their time and energy. By having this generation of kids, 90% of them in tuition many times a week, it means they play less, sleep less, see their parents less, see their grandparents less, communicate to other people less, etc. There will be some impact in their lives in future. If the school can teach effectively, maybe we can decrease the percentage instead of seeing it getting worst?

                For money wise, I know of taxi drivers driving additional hours to pay for tuition, 1 parent in another thread cutting insurance and some people cutting their parents' medical expenses to fund tuition. And I have not even covered the amount of money wasted changing from one unsuitable tuition center to another or changing non-performing ex-teachers type of tutors. This unnecessary expenses can do so much to enhance our lives in other ways. Yes tuition is inevitable for some but not >90% students. It is a mockery to our education system and amidst our kiasuism among ourselves, we all may lose to the external environment.

                :goodpost:

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                  verykiasu2010
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                  I think there is a lot of bullshit in saying 90% of kids having tuition is due to school teaching less and testing beyond scope.


                  The writer whose article was quoted in this thread concluded that the high % (without evidence, just personal \"observation\", which means your word against my word) of kids having tuition is mainly due to kiasuparents mind set.

                  It is 'wonderful' to see the herd instinct to straight away pin point it to teachers not teaching.

                  If it is really just teachers not teaching, or testing beyond scope, it is a very simple issue. Bring it up to MOE. Document it and submit it to Mr Heng Swee Kiat and c.c. it to PM Lee, I am sure they will attend to it.

                  As a start, please name the school, subject, level, class, teacher name, topic not taught but tested in school and examined in PSLE. Be not afraid to reveal your identity, if the school and teacher dare to victimise you / your child as a result of this feedback / complaint, lagi best -- another documentation of evidence to submit to Heng Swee Kiat and PM Lee.

                  C'mon, for the sake of the country, let's do it

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                    verykiasu2010
                    last edited by

                    cherryc:


                    It is a mockery to our education system and amidst our kiasuism among ourselves, we all may lose to the external environment.
                    if we have no evidence of the 90% as claimed, who is making a mockery of who ?

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                      Chenonceau
                      last edited by

                      verykiasu2010:
                      I think there is a lot of bullshit in saying 90% of kids having tuition is due to school teaching less and testing beyond scope.


                      The writer whose article was quoted in this thread concluded that the high % (without evidence, just personal \"observation\", which means your word against my word) of kids having tuition is mainly due to kiasuparents mind set.

                      It is 'wonderful' to see the herd instinct to straight away pin point it to teachers not teaching.

                      If it is really just teachers not teaching, or testing beyond scope, it is a very simple issue. Bring it up to MOE. Document it and submit it to Mr Heng Swee Kiat and c.c. it to PM Lee, I am sure they will attend to it.

                      As a start, please name the school, subject, level, class, teacher name, topic not taught but tested in school and examined in PSLE. Be not afraid to reveal your identity, if the school and teacher dare to victimise you / your child as a result of this feedback / complaint, lagi best -- another documentation of evidence to submit to Heng Swee Kiat and PM Lee.

                      C'mon, for the sake of the country, let's do it
                      Ummmm... I have given specific details and evidence. In good faith, I have. The evidence I provided was clear. The proposals and suggestions for solutions were also clear. The answer was - it's the school's problem.

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                        verykiasu2010
                        last edited by

                        blessed777:
                        http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singaporescene/things-consider-sending-child-tuition-classes-102823408.html


                        Real reason behind Singapore’s obsession with tuition

                        By Yahoo! Singapore | SingaporeScene – Wed, Jun 13, 2012



                        By Daniel Wong

                        Singapore is a tuition nation.

                        Previous reports from the Department of Statistics show that households spent $820 million a year on both centre and home-based private tuition.

                        In addition, the number of tuition centres has increased five times over the past decade. There are now more than 500 centres in Singapore.

                        In comparison, there are fewer than 400 primary and secondary schools in total.

                        Through my work as an education excellence coach and speaker, I've had the privilege of speaking to and working with thousands of students. Through these interactions, I estimate that more than 90% of students attend some form of tuition classes.

                        Students continually complain about their huge struggle to complete their school and tuition homework, participate actively in their co-curricular activities, and lead a somewhat balanced life.

                        Most students tell me that they don't get more than 5 or 6 hours of sleep every night because there's just so much they have to do!

                        Clearly, there's something wrong with this picture.

                        In this article, I'll share my observations about how our obsession with tuition reveals deeper issues we face as a society—issues that go far beyond the pursuit of academic success.

                        The fear of failure starts with parents

                        Parents send their children for tuition classes because they fear their children getting left behind. That's a reasonable fear, because it seems like every other student attends classes outside of school.

                        But the bigger fear that parents have is the fear of failure, not just for their children, but for themselves, too.

                        It's difficult to measure your performance as a parent, so parents often subconsciously gauge their success by how their children are doing in school.

                        Your child is a straight-A student? Then you must be doing a wonderful job!

                        Your child is struggling academically? Then you're failing as a parent.

                        Few parents verbalize it, but these thoughts are at the core of their decision to send their children for tuition classes. At the end of the day, no parent wants to feel like a failure.

                        What parents really want for their children

                        There are other implications, too. Parents' fear of failure gets passed on to their children, who grow up thinking that the best path is the one that's free from failure, risk and disappointment.

                        But is that really the best path? No, that's merely the good path, yet it's also the one that parents unintentionally push their children to pursue. A lot of the time, the best path is the one that's full of uncertainty and adversity.

                        That's why it's generally incorrect to say that parents want what's best for their children, because they usually only want what's good.

                        Be curious, not competitive

                        Moreover, parents who are fixated on their children's academic performance instill a spirit of competition in their children. In today's Information Age, however, what's needed in order to excel is a spirit of curiosity, rather than a spirit of competition.

                        There's an incredible amount of information available on the internet, which means that if you want to become knowledgeable in some field, you probably could. It just requires that you have enough genuine curiosity to compel you to look up the information online.

                        If students are caught up trying to compete with their peers and outperform them, it's difficult to cultivate a real love for learning and discovery—the things that form the basis of a meaningful education and of long-term success in the Information Age.

                        Success is more about will than skill

                        Furthermore, if students feel like they're being forced to improve academically, there's a limit to how successful they can become. To achieve success—I'll go one step further and use the word \"greatness\"—in any field, you need to make a conscious decision to be great.

                        After all, no great pianist, athlete, engineer, doctor, mechanic, nurse or entrepreneur became that way without intentionally choosing the path of excellence.

                        You can't force anyone to become great. It's possible to force someone to become mediocre or even good, but greatness requires commitment.

                        If parents make their children go for tuition classes without also empowering them to take full responsibility for their own education, it's impossible for the children to become great students.

                        At the heart of it, greatness is much more a matter of will than it is of skill. Before we teach our students the skill of studying more effectively and of doing better on exams, we need to encourage them to make a deliberate choice about their education, their future and their life.

                        Tuition isn't a bad thing

                        Just to be clear, on its own, tuition isn't a horrible thing. I have no doubt that tuition classes can help children to become more disciplined, knowledgeable, hardworking and determined.

                        Nevertheless, if it's not done with the correct mindset, sending children for tuition classes can be dangerous.

                        It's possible that we're currently creating a generation of sleep-deprived, overworked, unfulfilled, and unhappy students. I fear that this generation of unhappy students is going to become a generation of unhappy workers and, later on, a generation of unhappy parents.

                        This is a problem we cannot ignore.

                        So whether you, as a parent, decide to send your children for tuition classes or not, I urge you to make that decision with the right perspective. Make sure your children understand that it's more important to finish well than it is to finish first.

                        The future of our country depends on it.
                        where in the article is any proof or evidence of how the 90% is arrived at ? based on personal interaction / estimates as a motivational speaker ? all hot air to hookwind kiasuparents ......but credit to the writer, his conclusion is parents' mind set problems

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