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    Real reason behind Singapore’s obsession with tuition

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      Chenonceau
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      I don’t have energy to post anymore. I’m not doing these posts for me. The ones who will benefit from these posts are those currently in Lower Primary. It’s too late for my DS. If parents of kids in lower primary think my posts are not helpful, why bother?


      I would rather make money off you than fight over this with you.

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        SAHM_TAN
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        Chenonceau,


        I’m not a laidback parent. I have been reflecting the whole of jun hols.

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          cherryc
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          Chenonceau:
          I don't have energy to post anymore. I'm not doing these posts for me. The ones who will benefit from these posts are those currently in Lower Primary. It's too late for my DS. If parents of kids in lower primary think my posts are not helpful, why bother?


          I would rather make money off you than fight over this with you.

          :udawoman:

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            Chenonceau
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            SAHM_TAN:
            Chenonceau,


            I'm not a laidback parent. I have been reflecting the whole of jun hols.
            Good for you dear... I was laidback.

            I regret. Happily, I enriched him in Science and English without knowing that I was doing that. He easily tops the class even whilst we didn't do ANY assessment books. That was why I created Positive Teaching(TM) for Lower Primary parents. To share what I did with DS in Science and English.

            I know other Mothers who regret AFTER PSLE... they only found out what Onsponge was after PSLE. They thought \"My kid is in a good school. Even if he does badly in this school. He'll still be fine overall.\" The whole family is in pain. The Mothers feel they have let their child down. The child has self-esteem issues.

            If DS had not looked like he was developing stress and self-esteem issues, I think I would be blissfully nonchalant today. Good thing I am a psychologist and sensitive to such issues. It was because my DS told me he was dumb that I dropped everything and analyzed and strategized. We caught up.

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              Funz
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              Chenonceau:

              Did you expect me to shoot you? Gee... I am a bit perturbed if you do. As I recall, I jut lay down the logic and argumentation clearly. Apologies to all if I intimidate. I don't mean to.

              Yes... I get you. Balanced view right?

              For me, it's just that I didn't believe in guiding my kids at all academically. I had always focused more on character and food and play. But when exams test what teachers don't teach, then well... I have to teach. So... in essence, I am DS' tutor? Does that make sense to you?

              Hence, since I teach what the school did not teach but did test, I conclude that kids learn what they need to know to cope with exams from tutors. How is that over-crediting my role as DS' tutor. I don't think I am being imbalanced here. It is a logical and balanced conclusion from what I have experienced.

              I didn't guide DS at all in Lower Primary. We bought our first assessment book in end-P3. DS had no enrichment before P1... no tuition... no guidance from me.

              I didn't know I was supposed to guide in academics too. I didn't do that with DD and she did fine simply because I built character. I thought that if I taught my kids to be diligent, hardworking (character education), the academics will sort themselves out... but no matter how good a boy he was, DS couldn't keep up... and when I sat down in P5 to analyze gap between exams and homework practice, I knew I had to step into the academic gap.

              I now have to teach. If a parent can't teach, then tutors need to teach what Teachers don't. Funz, does that make sense to you?

              SAHMTan... if my comments today make a difference to how MOE runs it schools, may your children get to P5 and be spared the trauma my son went through because he had a Mommy who was as laid back as you.
              See. riddled with bullet holes liao. Hahah. Ok just teasing you.

              I am not referring to you per se when I wrote that. Your situation with your son is genuine and I may encounter the same issue when DD hits upper primary. You deserve every credit where your son is concern.

              I do have friends telling me of similar problems. And I also see a lot of other friends who are on the other end of the scale. I will not use my experience as DD is still in lower primary. But looking at my niece she took her PSLE 2 yrs ago, no kumon, no TLL, no tuition, no parental guidance, well only Tien Hsia and she scored 253. She is not gifted, not in GEP but she is a serious and diligent girl. How I wish DD is more like her.

              Another friend's kid, same thing, no additional classes, average kid in school, scored 240+. Then another who complain a lot about how the schools don't teach, etc, tuition in everything and the kid scored 220+. All are in different schools. Among my friends and while tracking the progress of my ex students, I see a good mix of those who go for every possible tuition and enrichment and those who do not and their results are just as mixed.

              For now with DD & DS, their teachers in school do teach. And mummy needs to step in only when they do not fully understand what teacher has covered. I fill in the gaps. This gap could be a result of the teacher not teaching but it could also be a result of my kid not grasping what was taught or not paying enough attention.

              Bottom line, tuition and enrichments do have their purpose and advantages and some are really truly good. But to give them all the credit for every kid that aces his/her exam and saying they are doing so well not because of the school is being too lopsided. I feel.

              Ok, going to mend the holes in my shirt oredi. 😉

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                Chenonceau
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                Funz:
                Chenonceau:


                Did you expect me to shoot you? Gee... I am a bit perturbed if you do. As I recall, I jut lay down the logic and argumentation clearly. Apologies to all if I intimidate. I don't mean to.

                Yes... I get you. Balanced view right?

                For me, it's just that I didn't believe in guiding my kids at all academically. I had always focused more on character and food and play. But when exams test what teachers don't teach, then well... I have to teach. So... in essence, I am DS' tutor? Does that make sense to you?

                Hence, since I teach what the school did not teach but did test, I conclude that kids learn what they need to know to cope with exams from tutors. How is that over-crediting my role as DS' tutor. I don't think I am being imbalanced here. It is a logical and balanced conclusion from what I have experienced.

                I didn't guide DS at all in Lower Primary. We bought our first assessment book in end-P3. DS had no enrichment before P1... no tuition... no guidance from me.

                I didn't know I was supposed to guide in academics too. I didn't do that with DD and she did fine simply because I built character. I thought that if I taught my kids to be diligent, hardworking (character education), the academics will sort themselves out... but no matter how good a boy he was, DS couldn't keep up... and when I sat down in P5 to analyze gap between exams and homework practice, I knew I had to step into the academic gap.

                I now have to teach. If a parent can't teach, then tutors need to teach what Teachers don't. Funz, does that make sense to you?

                SAHMTan... if my comments today make a difference to how MOE runs it schools, may your children get to P5 and be spared the trauma my son went through because he had a Mommy who was as laid back as you.

                See. riddled with bullet holes liao. Hahah. Ok just teasing you.

                I am not referring to you per se when I wrote that. Your situation with your son is genuine and I may encounter the same issue when DD hits upper primary. You deserve every credit where your son is concern.

                I do have friends telling me of similar problems. And I also see a lot of other friends who are on the other end of the scale. I will not use my experience as DD is still in lower primary. But looking at my niece she took her PSLE 2 yrs ago, no kumon, no TLL, no tuition, no parental guidance, well only Tien Hsia and she scored 253. She is not gifted, not in GEP but she is a serious and diligent girl. How I wish DD is more like her.

                Another friend's kid, same thing, no additional classes, average kid in school, scored 240+. Then another who complain a lot about how the schools don't teach, etc, tuition in everything and the kid scored 220+. All are in different schools. Among my friends and while tracking the progress of my ex students, I see a good mix of those who go for every possible tuition and enrichment and those who do not and their results are just as mixed.

                For now with DD & DS, their teachers in school do teach. And mummy needs to step in only when they do not fully understand what teacher has covered. I fill in the gaps. This gap could be a result of the teacher not teaching but it could also be a result of my kid not grasping what was taught or not paying enough attention.

                Bottom line, tuition and enrichments do have their purpose and advantages and some are really truly good. But to give them all the credit for every kid that aces his/her exam and saying they are doing so well not because of the school is being too lopsided. I feel.

                Ok, going to mend the holes in my shirt oredi. 😉

                Meanie.

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                  Chenonceau
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                  SAHM_TAN:
                  I'm trying to understand.


                  What sort of practice qns are not enough in maths textbks?

                  Whatever sort of qns or areas that my dd1 is weak in, I just write out similar qns for her to practice. I just change the names of the characters and qty hor, nothing complicated. Oh I hate maths, don't understand models, heuristics, and don't see the point of IQ like qns for P1 :rotflmao:
                  It seems the new normal that parents have to \"write out similar qns for her to practice\". I don't find it normal at all because my parents never did that for me. I never did that for DD. If that is the new normal accepted by parents, then I don't have to feel paiseh for making money off parents who wanna learn how to teach their kids positively.

                  That can only be good for me and mine. :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:

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                    Funz
                    last edited by

                    Chenonceau:

                    Meanie.
                    Me? Noooo... I'm :imanangel:

                    😂

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                      Chenonceau
                      last edited by

                      Funz:
                      Chenonceau:


                      Meanie.

                      Me? Noooo... I'm :imanangel:

                      😂

                      😄

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                        limlim
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                        Chenonceau:
                        verykiasu2010:


                        my kids' cousins attended Kumon and found them hopeless and useless. of course they quit.

                        what do their profit-loss reports say?

                        They are successful salesman.

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