Real reason behind Singapore’s obsession with tuition
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alng:
It is for the benefit of the students that papers are returned for their reflection and awareness of the mistakes that they may have committed.
I can understand the dilemma the schools and teachers are in. Hopefully, all the schools and teachers do think that returning the papers back to the students is important as it forms a feedback loop of the students' learning. Hopefully, we parents can also be kinder to the teachers and trust/respect their professionalism in grading.
IMO, it is unpardonable crime if the school deprived the students of this segment of the learning process just so as to make their own work easier, and not have to answer parent's queries..
How to manage the queries is something they have to work out themselves..
It is plan irresponsible to do away with the returning of the papers. -
It seems that there are currently 3 practices on the returning of marked compo exam papers which are frequently deemed more difficult to explain the marks as they are marked by different teachers.
1. Some schools return to the children to bring the papers home (Completely open system)
2. Some schools show the paper to the children and then collect back (Half-open system)
3. Some schools do not even show the children the paper, not to mention about bringing them home. Only provide the scores. (Completely closed system)
4. Some schools do not even split the compo marks to release but just give an overall English mark, not to mention looking at the paper. (Extremely closed system)
Category 1 and 2 are familiar practices amongst my friends' kids' schools and mine. Category 3 is the first time I am reading in this forum which needs to be flagged out to the respective school. I agree that if there are sensitivities, at least let the children understand where they have done well or where they need improvement as every exam is also a learning process so Category 3 needs to get at least into Category 2.
I believe this is another area where there is no policy stated from MOE hence the varied practices.
Edit to add: I have added a Category 4 which is shocking to me but I am willing to hear good rationale behind such a practice, maybe it is something out of the box that my mind cannot reach...
Now Category 3 looks good next to Category 4... 
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ksi:
my boy was in Category 3 for past 3 years. the first time and last time they ever saw their Compo papers were on the exam day itself. even our request to see the paper on PTM were turned down.It seems that there are currently 3 practices on the returning of marked compo exam papers which are frequently deemed more difficult to explain the marks as they are marked by different teachers.
1. Some schools return to the children to bring the papers home (Completely open system)
2. Some schools show the paper to the children and then collect back (Half-open system)
3. Some schools do not even show the children the paper, not to mention about bringing them home. Only provide the scores. (Completely closed system)
Category 1 and 2 are familiar practices amongst my friends' kids' schools and mine. Category 3 is the first time I am reading in this forum which needs to be flagged out to the respective school. I agree that if there are sensitivities, at least let the children understand where they have done well or where they need improvement as every exam is also a learning process so Category 3 needs to get at least into Category 2.
I believe this is another area where there is no policy stated from MOE hence the varied practices. -
Actually for compo, many parents would want to know how kids fared. That is Paper 1…if kids feel that they did ok, they have confidence to move on and not worry about it. For compo, most schools will NOT even show kids nor tell them the grades…Category 3. If it is P6, especially, there is no harm telling us parents the grades? We have every reason to find out how we can help kids improve.
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Jedamum, if we can establish that Category 3 is a minority practice from others’ response, perhaps you have a case to try at the school again. At the end of the day, children can also learn from the better or worser compos they have written before. "Learn from mistakes" is a common way to learn at the primary level as well. Hope you can make some headway with your school in this matter.
Sorry Jedamum, you mentioned past 3 years your child was not shown the compo exam paper, now he is in P4, did he get to see it in SA1 then? -
janet_lee88:
Actually for compo, many parents would want to know how kids fared. That is Paper 1...if kids feel that they did ok, they have confidence to move on and not worry about it. For compo, most schools will NOT even show kids nor tell them the grades...Category 3. If it is P6, especially, there is no harm telling us parents the grades? We have every reason to find out how we can help kids improve.
Oh Janet, this is another surprise to me. It seems that you are talking about Category 4, (EXTREMELY closed system) whereby the kids are not even told about their compo marks? Is this really happening? Kindly confirm then I will update the category. -
ksi:
I don't know the grade. Honestly.janet_lee88:
Actually for compo, many parents would want to know how kids fared. That is Paper 1...if kids feel that they did ok, they have confidence to move on and not worry about it. For compo, most schools will NOT even show kids nor tell them the grades...Category 3. If it is P6, especially, there is no harm telling us parents the grades? We have every reason to find out how we can help kids improve.
Oh Janet, this is another surprise to me. It seems that you are talking about Category 4, (EXTREMELY closed system) whereby the kids are not even told about their compo marks? Is this really happening? Kindly confirm then I will update the category.
But my son still has to go to school, hope you understand. -
janet_lee88:
I don't know the grade. Honestly.ksi:
[quote=\"janet_lee88\"]Actually for compo, many parents would want to know how kids fared. That is Paper 1...if kids feel that they did ok, they have confidence to move on and not worry about it. For compo, most schools will NOT even show kids nor tell them the grades...Category 3. If it is P6, especially, there is no harm telling us parents the grades? We have every reason to find out how we can help kids improve.
Oh Janet, this is another surprise to me. It seems that you are talking about Category 4, (EXTREMELY closed system) whereby the kids are not even told about their compo marks? Is this really happening? Kindly confirm then I will update the category.
But my son still has to go to school, hope you understand.[/quote]I understand, I do not need to know the school, I am just surprised that they do not even furnish the compo marks separately from the overall English marks. I will update Category 4.
I am not sure if you have checked the rationale with the school for such a practice. Perhaps they have a good reason behind this. Pray share if you find out. -
I am disappointed, very disappointed that such vital info cannot be revealed.
Was told that heads will roll if compo marks are told.
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janet_lee88:
Why would heads roll? Unless anyhow mark and Kenna discovered la... :siam:I am disappointed, very disappointed that such vital info cannot be revealed.
Was told that heads will roll if compo marks are told.
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