Are you happy you have been heard by MOE...

[concern2]

ksi:

concern2:

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A more sensitive issue, however, is the perceived difference between citizens and permanent residents (PRs) when it comes to NS....
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The red highlighted part was the loophole on how second generation PRs got away with NS and 1/3 of them did so. The highlighted in orange, not sure if it is put in place yet as I cannot confirm the date of this article from ST.

Ksi, :thankyou:

So the 2 links that was provided isn't reflecting the latest considerations yet, I suppose.

concern2, if there is no policy on stopping the renouncing of PR before enlistment in the 2 links, then it can be inferred that it has not been implemented yet.[/quote]Yeah. When was the ST article published by the way?

[concern2]

verykiasu2010:

concern2:

I suppose, but it limits them in a way, doesn't it? Not entirely a free man, so to say, cannot represent their company to visit/deal in Singapore, cannot buy a property in Sentosa Cove....hehe, well, well, they prob have more choices than WE have..

companies here will go over to visit him

property ? only miss out the singapore one but not the rest of the world

So true, we are but so small compared to the world.

....so, its worth it lah?

[corneyAmber]

concern2:

ksi:

[quote=\"concern2\"]
Ksi, :thankyou:

So the 2 links that was provided isn't reflecting the latest considerations yet, I suppose.

concern2, if there is no policy on stopping the renouncing of PR before enlistment in the 2 links, then it can be inferred that it has not been implemented yet.

Yeah. When was the ST article published by the way?[/quote]Found it:
Forging bonds of brotherhood
By William Choong, The Straits Times, 2 Jun 2012

http://ifonlysingaporeans.blogspot.sg/2012/06/national-service-for-permanent.html

[concern2]

ksi:

Found it:
Forging bonds of brotherhood
By William Choong, The Straits Times, 2 Jun 2012

http://ifonlysingaporeans.blogspot.sg/2012/06/national-service-for-permanent.html

Wow, it's quite recent! Thanks, ksi!!

[corneyAmber]

concern2:

ksi:

Found it:
Forging bonds of brotherhood
By William Choong, The Straits Times, 2 Jun 2012

http://ifonlysingaporeans.blogspot.sg/2012/06/national-service-for-permanent.html

Wow, it's quite recent! Thanks, ksi!!

Yes, it is all in the recent talk about citizen versus non-citizens disparity, hence new policies emerge I suppose.

[limlim]

ksi:

limlim:

[quote=\"ksi\"]
The increased citizens were probably seen when the P1 priority changes...

Will gender ratio tilt towards 1 side as more PR girls becoming citizens..?

Are you wondering if more non-citizens with girls will become citizens for schooling purpose because girls no need to serve NS?[/quote]Yes. The parent is one factor.

And those with kids. After the mother convert, the female kid may convert also, while the male kid may remain as PR. And if the elder kid is a girl and convert, and got into a school of choice, the PR male younger brother will get into the Pri school also.

[limlim]

nansk:

limlim:

Will gender ratio tilt towards 1 side as more PR girls becoming citizens..?

Are you aware that sons of PRs are also required to serve NS? And yet there are lots of parents of sons who:
1. apply for PR
2. continue to live/work in Sg even after their sons turn 12.

That means, they are willing to let their sons serve NS - sons who may not go on to take Sg citizenship.

So, what you are implying is not necessarily true.

You point being? why 12 and not 18?

[limlim]

verykiasu2010:

concern2:

Does this mean that the son of a parent with a Singapore PR status, even if he is living in other countries (e.g. US), has to come back at the age of 16 to register for NS?

if the son of the SGP PR is also a PR, this PR son (born in SGP) must come back to SGP to serve NS regardless where he stays. By law. No excuse

if the son decided to give up the PR at 16.5yo?

[concern2]

tuition_czar:

Just bear in mind: being heard not equals to implementation of suggestions. It could just be another charade.

For a split second, I thought you wrote \"it could just be another decade..\" Not surprised if it is..

[buds]

concern2:

For a split second, I thought you wrote \"it could just be another decade..\" Not surprised if it is..

:rotflmao:

Good one concern2! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php