PSLE 2009 RESULTS!!

[James Ang]

ChiefKiasu:

Hi arijit dasgupta, whatever will be will be.


PSLE is just one of the many milestones in our lives. Few parents in our community even remember what they scored in their own PSLEs, and no company actually judge employment candidates using PSLE grades. You should take PSLE as a learning process, and it is what you do after PSLE that determines what your future will be. If you did well in PSLE, the question is what you must do to continue to excel in your O-Levels, A-Levels, and tertiary levels. If you did not do well in PSLE, you have to decide if you will let this set-back mark you for the rest of your life, or if you should work harder to prove to yourself that you are a much greater person than the system deems you to be.

Chief, you forgot about the IP program which is top 5% of cohort which will skip O levels, get direct into Top 5 JCs and mingle with doctors, lawyers, accountants and other professionals-to-be and almost 95% of which will get into a University or higher whether local or sponsored prestigious foreign Uni and then once you understand the BIG prize behind the PSLE, then you will understand why PSLE is so important now. It is the \"NEW O Levels\"!

Nothing matters to those who say \"Nothing matters\".

[foreverj]

arijit dasgupta:

HELLO EVERYONE I AM A P6 STUDENT.I KNOW I AM NOT GOOD IN STUDIES,CAN SOMEBODEY GIVE ME AN IDEA HOW MUCH I MIGHT GET FOR PSLE IF I GET 91 FOR MATHS,85 FOR ENGLISH,80 FOR SCIENCE,AND 80-85 FOR MOTHER TOUNGE.I AM REALLY NERVOUS,AS I WILL BE GETTING MY RESULT IN LESS THAN 5 DAYS.CAN SOMEBODY GIVE ME A RANGE,I REALLY AM NERVOUS. eg(230-250)


thank you,i hope you can help me


ps:i am new

yup, dun worry. just hope for the best and make the best of whatever results u get! can always work harder in sec school to get good 'O' level results. as chief has mentioned, hardly anyone even ask to list PSLE results in the application for employment form.

chief, if i m not wrong, PSLE also looks at bell curve right? meaning how well one does really depends on how the whole cohort does as well right?

[James Ang]

foreverj:

yup, dun worry. just hope for the best and make the best of whatever results u get! can always work harder in sec school to get good 'O' level results. as chief has mentioned, hardly anyone even ask to list PSLE results in the application for employment form.


chief, if i m not wrong, PSLE also looks at bell curve right? meaning how well one does really depends on how the whole cohort does as well right?

PSLE is the \"New O levels\", look at the newspapers and compare how they report PSLE results Vs O levels results. PSLE at least 5 to 8 full pages while O levels is only 1/2 page.

Since IP students do not have O levels, I am sure one day employers want to see the PSLE results as well otherwise they will compare A levels results only to get an apple to apple comparison. That means O levels students who do not take A levels (70%) will be filtered out.

In most corporations, there are 2 career paths; one is Management and the other is Operations. To get into management, you need at least a degree to even pass through the HR dept to secure an interview. To get into operations, O levels or equivalent such as Malaysia's SPM, China/Philippines/Vietnam/Myammar/Indonesia high school cert, or skills certs etc is good enough for entry level to make sure the applicant can read, count and write.

Some good companies only take those with 2nd Upper Class honours or higher, which is equal to top 10% of University grads. Many MNCs employ only graduates to man their OHQ and RHQ offices while Operations are moved to China, Vietnam and Thailand already.

Singapore is moving toward Knowledge Based economy, a degree becomes a necessity, it is a matter of getting it sooner or later. Many poly grads \"upgrade\" to private degrees which may not be recognised, but they still have to take a chance or become bypassed for promotion. A rolling stone gathers no moss.

[James Ang]

For some of those people around my age whom I know (ex-classmates and friends etc of Selegie Primary School which does not exist anymore) I can gauge how a good set of PSLE helped them to be where they are today in their mid 30s;


1985 PSLE Agg 266 - Colonel ranked officer by early 30s
1985 PSLE Agg 254 - Manager in Japanese MNC
1984 PSLE Agg 363 - General Manager of local bank group
1987 PSLE Agg 265 - Senior Manager in Big 4 Auditors
1985 PSLE Agg 268 - Senior Executive in Petroleum Group

[jedamum]

ChiefKiasu:

no company actually judge employment candidates using PSLE grades.

Chief,
for the note above, one of my friends told me too, but she also added that precisely because of this, it is important to get into 'big name' primary schools, cos while the interviewers may overlook psle grades, the 'big name' of the primary school will stand out and make it a talking point among the interviewers, hence leaving a bigger impression.

[James Ang]

jedamum:

Chief,

for the note above, one of my friends told me too, but she also added that precisely because of this, it is important to get into 'big name' primary schools, cos while the interviewers may overlook psle grades, the 'big name' of the primary school will stand out and make it a talking point among the interviewers, hence leaving a bigger impression.

Getting into a big name primary school is based on the parent's efforts, how many parents volunteered as traffic wardens, reading moms, volunteer teaching assistants, librarian and excursion guides. I just heard from my Manager friend (the 254 agg guy in 1985 PSLE, now working in a Japanese MNC) that he volunteered as a traffic warden for the past half year while his son is in K1, so he has to do it for another 1 year at least until his son can hopefully smell the grass of NYPS. I applaud his efforts.

But it is getting into a top secondary school based on own merit in the PSLE that give employers the best impression. In my first job as a senior officer in PSA Corp after graduation, my then manager commented that my O levels are all straight A distinctions although my 2nd Upper Class honours degree and sponsorship for study award were keys to my securing the good job in the midst of the Asian Financial Crisis. My university lecturer told us that you need to impress your employers with strings of A and B grades for University modules and not C and D grades.

[frankchn]

James Ang:

For some of those people around my age whom I know (ex-classmates and friends etc of Selegie Primary School which does not exist anymore) I can gauge how a good set of PSLE helped them to be where they are today in their mid 30s;


1985 PSLE Agg 266 - Colonel ranked officer by early 30s
1985 PSLE Agg 254 - Manager in Japanese MNC
1984 PSLE Agg 363 - General Manager of local bank group
1987 PSLE Agg 265 - Senior Manager in Big 4 Auditors
1985 PSLE Agg 268 - Senior Executive in Petroleum Group

For my year (2001 PSLE), the top scorers whose names are on the MOE press release are now all doing very well. As far as I know/can find out:

1 at NUS Medicine
2 at Princeton
1 at Columbia
1 at UCL Medicine
1 at Cambridge

[arijit dasgupta]

I THANK YOU ALL HERE FOR HELPIN ME AND MAKING ME FEEL BETTER,NOW I KNOW WHY KIASUPARENTS IS THE BEST PLACE TO DISCUSS ALL THIS,(ALTHOUGH I AM ONLY A CHILD)A PSLE CANDIDATE :celebrate:

[emerald]

arijit dasgupta:

I THANK YOU ALL HERE FOR HELPIN ME AND MAKING ME FEEL BETTER,NOW I KNOW WHY KIASUPARENTS IS THE BEST PLACE TO DISCUSS ALL THIS,(ALTHOUGH I AM ONLY A CHILD)A PSLE CANDIDATE :celebrate:

Good to see that children are opening up to discuss about their emotions. Maybe should start a thread specially for these kids so that they could share their feelings freely and make friends. I'm sure they would relate better among themselves than to us parents.

[ChiefKiasu]

James Ang:

ChiefKiasu:

Hi arijit dasgupta, whatever will be will be.


PSLE is just one of the many milestones in our lives. Few parents in our community even remember what they scored in their own PSLEs, and no company actually judge employment candidates using PSLE grades. You should take PSLE as a learning process, and it is what you do after PSLE that determines what your future will be. If you did well in PSLE, the question is what you must do to continue to excel in your O-Levels, A-Levels, and tertiary levels. If you did not do well in PSLE, you have to decide if you will let this set-back mark you for the rest of your life, or if you should work harder to prove to yourself that you are a much greater person than the system deems you to be.

Chief, you forgot about the IP program which is top 5% of cohort which will skip O levels, get direct into Top 5 JCs and mingle with doctors, lawyers, accountants and other professionals-to-be and almost 95% of which will get into a University or higher whether local or sponsored prestigious foreign Uni and then once you understand the BIG prize behind the PSLE, then you will understand why PSLE is so important now. It is the \"NEW O Levels\"!

Nothing matters to those who say \"Nothing matters\".

Dear James, in most industries, professional qualifications are much more important than academic qualifications. We choose top scholars from universities primarily because of the belief that academic excellence is a close approximation to professional excellence. While the correlation is high, oftentimes, I find myself getting more output and contribution from a poly grad than someone with a Phd.

There is no question about the importance of PSLE. It is the rite of passage to better Secondary schools, and ostensibly for better chance of doing well enough to get to the pinnacle of our education system. And despite the changes made to the system throughout the years, the role of the PSLE remains just that - one of the several gateways where candidates will be measured against each other and streamed according to the \"formula\" applied at that stage. While it is true that O-Levels have lost its appeal since a long time back due to the general acceptance that EVERYONE should at least pass the O-Levels to be a \"useful Singaporean adult\", this is primarily due to the fact that the college degree has itself become a commodity where most people will have at least one of.

Your statement that PSLE are now the new O-Levels may be true in the sense that the proportion of kids passing PSLE these days is much higher now than during our time, but we should not go so far as to say that a kid's life is determined by how well he does in PSLE. The glass ceilings that are imposed by our Singaporean society on our children by virtue of the endless streaming and classification processes only impress on our children that their potential is pre-determined by the system at fixed points of time. Make a wrong move at one point and the future becomes irreparably bad. Can we blame our children for being so stressed as to feel that life is meaningless if they do not do well for the PSLE? And at the age of 12, most kids do not even understand that the road is still long before them, and that the war is only won if they get good honors degrees which might give them a better chance of getting the jobs they want.

We should teach our children that regardless of whatever glass ceiling that others impose on them, the blue sky is still visible and open to anyone who has the heart to reach for it. The top scorer in PSLE will still have to compete with everyone else in the race for attaining good degrees, so the game is pretty much still on for the next 10 years for every graduating Primary school student.