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    City Harvest's founder Kong Hee & 4 others arrested/charged

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      No Kidding
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      zakashi:
      verykiasu2010:

      [quote=\"zakashi\"]Annabel Soh's looks and singing are many times better than Sun Ho. Do you know why Annabel is not given a chance to go to Hollywood for the crossover project?


      she hasn't crossed over mah ........ also may be because she is ah Soh ...

      all puns intended ...... joking joking

      For your information, do you know that she had already crossed over. Just last month in June or May 2012, CHC celebrated its 10th anniversary for the Sun Crossover project.

      That is why I said why they did not get Annable to crossover instead of that auntie or ah Soh as you said.[/quote]Sun was over the moon when she was exalted highly. Now that she's been brought down to earth, she'll see stars.

      I think the folks at CHC are too much into Sun-worship and too little immersed in SON-worship.

      That's the crux of the problem.

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        Dreamaurora
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        Way2GO:
        Dreamaurora:



        Yes, it is a tragedy when the words and quotes from the Bible are misquoted and twisted by preachers to suppress people's common sense and conscience.

        I finally got around to hear that podcast from fightingforfaith website. I really...did not know what to say. Kong Hee had always been pro-prosperity ever since CHC was in Hollywood Theatre and although I did not agree with him, he was not that extreme, but that sermon at C3 church was...blasphemy. I could not find nicer words to describe it.

        please dream, not another TPL moment!
        How abt Kong Hee Fatt Choy! :evil:

        I really...did not know what to say. *stomps feet*

        :cheeky:

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          dolphinsiah
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          I am a non christian , watching how KH preaches the laws of harvest

          makes me want to cry.....
          [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4LmWzNsGbQ][/youtube]

          The rich will be richer the poor will be poorer....

          I found this Pastor that condemns the teaching of Prosperity Gospel....
          [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIdTFSIj8AI][/youtube]
          Wish some good church pastors can be like him...challenge this Gospel.

          Buddha always said please questions his teachings....that is why tibet monks are always debating on buddhism teachings to make it more perfect....

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            No Kidding
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            SilentHermit:
            No Kidding:

            [quote=\"sacredmusicals\"]Dream, I apologize for my last post to you. It must have been hard for you and I should not press you like that. You have made very good posts here that are very enlightening to both Christians and non Christians. If you do not mind, can you tackle one of the most controversial questions ever in Christianity?


            Will all non Christians go to hell?

            I myself am a Christian and honestly, I cannot answer this question. My Christian friends either give me the same standard answer or refused to discuss this. I was once asked this question by a non Christian and I was dumbfounded. I hope to see your views on this as I could feel god's wisdom in your words.

            The question is not controversial at all. The Bible is very clear in its answer here:

            \"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does NOT believe stands condemned already because they have NOT believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.\" (John 3:16-18)

            \"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will NOT see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.\" (John 3:36)

            Ask this one simply question: if Jesus did not die to save us from hell fire (which is what all who are born in sin deserves), then what did he die for?

            \"There is no difference between Jew and Gentile (non-Jews), for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,\" (Romans 3:22-23)


            \"God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. He will punish those who do not know God and do NOT obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be PUNISHED WITH EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you.\" (2 Thessalonians 1:6-10)

            Dear No Kidding,
            By the above, are you trying to imply that all non-christian will go to this place call \"Hell\"?

            SH[/quote]By limiting myself to quoting the Bible, I'm letting the Bible speak for itself on this issue because it does it far more eloquently than I do or can.

            Even if I do not post it, you can still see exactly the SAME verses in the Bible anywhere addressing this issue.

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              Dreamaurora
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              No Kidding:

              By limiting myself to quoting the Bible, I'm letting the Bible speak for itself on this issue because it does it far more eloquently than I do or can.

              Even if I do not post it, you can still see exactly the SAME verses in the Bible anywhere addressing this issue.
              No offense to you, No Kidding. But when you are engaging non believers, you should not just quote bible verses without explaining their contexts. If this is the case, pastors should just read bibles in church sermons every weekend.

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                Lilac66
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                :bewaremod: :bewaremod:

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                  zakashi
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                  Dear dolphinsiah


                  Thank you so much for the video.

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                    peapot
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                    Oh my god! Dophinsiah, thks for the video. Now I know why teenagers can be easily influenced. I m gonna make sure my family stay far away from CHarvest. It’s really harvest time for them. I do not want my girl to grow up thinking like that only when she gives money to the church and she will be blessed. The more she gives the more she will be blessed. After this episode I m more wary of them. Scary…

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                      peapot
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                      Btw, does he preach about harvesting in all his sermon??

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                        kiddo
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                        Dreamaurora:
                        No Kidding:


                        By limiting myself to quoting the Bible, I'm letting the Bible speak for itself on this issue because it does it far more eloquently than I do or can.

                        Even if I do not post it, you can still see exactly the SAME verses in the Bible anywhere addressing this issue.

                        No offense to you, No Kidding. But when you are engaging non believers, you should not just quote bible verses without explaining their contexts. If this is the case, pastors should just read bibles in church sermons every weekend.

                        Thank you Dream :hi5:

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