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[doodbug]

verykiasu2010:

wonderm:

By the way, we have never encountered teachers recommending tuition, heard it from this forum.

same same

if anything, the teacher told us the materials used by that centre not updated one, some more a certain principal also said that centre no good (the principal' personal opinion only, and the principal also said may be the kid not smart lor)

I haven't encountered a teacher who asks the class kids outright to go for tuition. But I've had teachers who
- told me that their own children attend Busy Bees and it's good
- say that the child will benefit from extra academic help outside of school.

[3Boys]

Picolo:

verykiasu2010:

[quote=\"wonderm\"]

By the way, we have never encountered teachers recommending tuition, heard it from this forum.

same same

if anything, the teacher told us the materials used by that centre not updated one, some more a certain principal also said that centre no good (the principal' personal opinion only, and the principal also said may be the kid not smart lor)

same same 2.

Only read from this forum. The only time I was told of parents asked to get tuitions for their kids was... none actually. This tuition-hungry friend of mine asked the teacher during PTM whether she should send her dd for some enrichments first, and the teacher answered \"ok for more exposure\". So it was not a teacher-initiated request.[/quote]Same same 3.

My DS's school principal actively discouraged.

[oxyleo]

doodbug:

verykiasu2010:

[quote=\"wonderm\"]

By the way, we have never encountered teachers recommending tuition, heard it from this forum.

same same

if anything, the teacher told us the materials used by that centre not updated one, some more a certain principal also said that centre no good (the principal' personal opinion only, and the principal also said may be the kid not smart lor)

I haven't encountered a teacher who asks the class kids outright to go for tuition. But I've had teachers who
- told me that their own children attend Busy Bees and it's good
- say that the child will benefit from extra academic help outside of school.[/quote]Same here doodbug.

My kid is only in P2 and has wonderful teachers to date, bless them!

But my god-daughter's mum was told by a teacher during a PTM in P4, when she asked how she could help her daughter improve her Eng, was - go for tuition.

I also know a teacher who sends her kids to TLL, and they find it useful.

And I also know a friend whose daughter attends TLL and is in the same class as a Minister's son.

[doodbug]

oxyleo:

Same here doodbug.

My kid is only in P2 and has wonderful teachers to date, bless them!

But my god-daughter's mum was told by a teacher during a PTM in P4, when she asked how she could help her daughter improve her Eng, was - go for tuition.

I also know a teacher who sends her kids to TLL, and they find it useful.

And I also know a friend whose daughter attends TLL and is in the same class as a Minister's son.

I do not wish to prejudge my kids' experience with primary school as it's still the early years. So far, it's been generally okay, but some cracks are begining to show For example, it's term 3 and the Chinese Teacher is still at the 'A' textbook, and has 3 more chapters in the textbook and activity book to go. Then another parent in the school told me that it is common that the school is not able to finish the CL syllabus.

That said, in general, my son has by and large adjusted well to Primary School and I guess in lower Primary, I do not witness the barrage of 'kiasuism' yet and perhaps it's the demographics of the school, but I have yet to feel the tuition pressure. Perhaps the tuition culture is more prevalent in some schools than others. Or maybe I will feel it in upper Primary. We'll see

[janet88]

My daughter in P2 is blessed with dedicated and caring teachers...she is very fortunate.


Limlim, you have my support.
If teachers are not allowed to moonlight, they may be more dedicated to teach in class :xedfingers: If students find they are learning more in school, they will tend to be more keen to attend school and less tuition.

[wonderm]

oxyleo:

I also know a teacher who sends her kids to TLL, and they find it useful.

And I also know a friend whose daughter attends TLL and is in the same class as a Minister's son.

Be careful, you may be unknowingly advertising for them. KSP may be more effective than their own ads

[autumnbronze]

limlim:

verykiasu2010:

blame MOE ? blame the parents' kiasu mentality is more like it

ouch, the truth hurts :siam: :siam:

Surely, the \"kiasu\" parents have a hand in it.......

However, shd the state stand by and do nothing..?

it's not whether the truth hurts.. but what can be done to alleviate the problem..

Instead of just declaring that \"oh, it is cause by parents.. end of story..\"

When there is a social problem, the state have an obligation to deal with it..

Just started reading from pg1.

So what should the state do then, since it's a social problem?? Come up with YET another 'fine' :evil: :evil:

[3Boys]

autumnbronze:

Just started reading from pg1.

So what should the state do then, since it's a social problem?? Come up with YET another 'fine' :evil: :evil:

I honestly find it very befuddling why in this era when people are railing AGAINST a nanny state, that the same people are asking for even MORE government intervention. Shed those apron strings, for heaven's sake.

[autumnbronze]

FQW:

SAHM_TAN:

My point is that from my observation of my kids, I know small until cannot be small sample size, kids by nature love and want to learn. They are terrible curious creatures. It's not a typo when I state terrible. We do not need to nurture their love for learning. We just need to make sure we don't extinguish it.

I so totally agree with you on this one. This is also what Glenn Doman preached about early childhood education. The thing is, a child's educational journey doesn't start when he reaches P1. It starts way before that and we parents play a big part in the grooming and motivational aspects [though I reserve judgement on the effectiveness of sending kids to 2 kindy per day].

If we put in consistent effort to educate our kids during the early years, in future no matter what external competition they face such as in the form of smart foreign students coming in, I believe they will hold their own and fulfil their potential. Isn't that enough?

Some sure ways to extinguish the fire in our kids are a) expect perfection all the time, nit-picking every small mistake that they make b) bore them by only exposing them to content found within MOE's exam syllabus c) physcially punishing them when they don't meet our expection [to me, this is the biggest disincentive to learn for the quest of knowledge].

:goodpost:

[autumnbronze]

3Boys:

autumnbronze:

Just started reading from pg1.

So what should the state do then, since it's a social problem?? Come up with YET another 'fine' :evil: :evil:

I honestly find it very befuddling why in this era when people are railing AGAINST a nanny state, that the same people are asking for even MORE government intervention. Shed those apron strings, for heaven's sake.

Couldn't agree with you more on this :hi5:

Edited: sarcasm intended in first post