Asia spending billions on tutors: study
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ChiefKiasu:
Thank you limlim, for that point. I will add an additional topic to cover your point, which is fundamental to the entire poll, so it will be the first topic.limlim:
I always wanted to say this.. now is the opportunity.... :evil:
If MOE wants to raise the bar, it is absolutely fine, provided that they have the resources, capability and the will, to raise the platform for ALL kids.
BASC for al kids, PCF kindy education with the necessary skills etc..
And not cause some kids to be disadvantaged, just bcoz their parents cannot afford or don't know how to, get them a pricey stepping stone, to help them reach for the bar that was raised again, and again. Also wouldn't it also be extraneous burden on the kids to have to carry a heavy stepping stone with them at such a young age? even if the parents can afford it.
The higher the bar, the thicker the stepping stone, the heavier it is.
Singapore has a world-class education system
a) Yes. The high exacting standards our system expects will provide Singaporeans the edge in the face of increased global competition for the next few decades
b) Yes. Parents should be grateful that their children are in a system that is admired and emulated by other countries
c) No. The system is too focused on meritocracy based on academic results, with too little effort spent on promoting and lauding character building, self-motivation and cognitive decision-making processes involving social contexts.
d) No. The system is too stressful for our children, leading to high social costs of increased delinquent behavior or psychological problems.
In my 1.5 years surfing KSP, I hardly had chance to see Chief in action. (maybe I missed them). Now I see the power..... :udaman:
Poll sounds good :rahrah:
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verykiasu2010:
These profit driven entities have a large part to play in the unhealthy phenomenon.. I feel.
Science tuition is a growing industry. At the start of the school year, parents like me are told by speakers from enrichment/tuition centres that our children will score only a passing mark in the subject for the Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE) if they do not go for tuition.
http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/OnlineStory/STIStory_822941.html
Again.. need some form of control and regulation.. (Advertisement, method of soliciting for biz etc..?)
And their existence is also plays a part in diminishing the contribution of teachers..
Even if the teachers are delicate and played a significant role, parents who is regularly dependent on enrichment/tuition for As may not give due respect and appreciation of school teachers.
If teachers and schools are the main source of education, any shortfall and deficiencies would be feedback to the schools and teachers for improvement. If 3rd party enrichment are available, some may bypass the teacher route and depend on 3rd party provider. Hence the school standard may not improve, and in the long run.. Schools/Teachers may slowly lose the respect that they should rightfully command. -
ChiefKiasu:
err.. I see no link/relation to the points I mentioned leh....
Thank you limlim, for that point. I will add an additional topic to cover your point, which is fundamental to the entire poll, so it will be the first topic.limlim:
I always wanted to say this.. now is the opportunity.... :evil:
If MOE wants to raise the bar, it is absolutely fine, provided that they have the resources, capability and the will, to raise the platform for ALL kids.
BASC for al kids, PCF kindy education with the necessary skills etc..
And not cause some kids to be disadvantaged, just bcoz their parents cannot afford or don't know how to, get them a pricey stepping stone, to help them reach for the bar that was raised again, and again. Also wouldn't it also be extraneous burden on the kids to have to carry a heavy stepping stone with them at such a young age? even if the parents can afford it.
The higher the bar, the thicker the stepping stone, the heavier it is.
Singapore has a world-class education system
a) Yes. The high exacting standards our system expects will provide Singaporeans the edge in the face of increased global competition for the next few decades
b) Yes. Parents should be grateful that their children are in a system that is admired and emulated by other countries
c) No. The system is too focused on meritocracy based on academic results, with too little effort spent on promoting and lauding character building, self-motivation and cognitive decision-making processes involving social contexts.
d) No. The system is too stressful for our children, leading to high social costs of increased delinquent behavior or psychological problems.
Your additional topic is more like on character development.... -
verykiasu2010:
This is a very good read. It brings one thru a thought-provoking process instead of a myopic one-solution-solve-all by populist view.STUDENTS receive the same standard of education in local schools, although it is undeniable that their results will vary due to natural differences ('S'pore way works, but only with tuition' by Ms Wily Wan, last Saturday; in reply to my letter, 'Tough Singapore way works'; last Wednesday).
The need for tuition arises from the fact that some parents expect their children to excel, regardless of their innate abilities. Over the years, their expectations have changed - parents now expect their children to score As instead of simply passing. Few students require tuition to pass examinations, and many do not require tuition to excel.
With so much time allocated to tuition by parents, children cannot find the time to enjoy their childhood. How can the blame be placed on our education system then?
If the curriculum were to be simplified or examination results adjusted such that most students can score distinctions without any assistance, then the potential of those who can cope with the present system will not be stretched and top students cannot be identified.
Will this situation be of any good to Singapore? We will only be deceiving ourselves as the quality of students remains the same, if not worse.
Education is not only competition in the local context - we are also competing with the world. What is the point of simplifying the curriculum, only to lose out on jobs in today's globalised world?
Furthermore, if the curriculum is too easy, those who can afford to do so will switch to a more realistic curriculum offered by international schools, leaving the majority behind and thus decreasing social mobility.
In this case, instead of tuition centres, we will see private schools mushrooming. Do we really want to have a system in which public schools offer a curriculum that is inferior to that of private schools?
It saddens me that Singaporeans are unappreciative of our meritocratic education system that provides ample opportunities for social mobility, at a time when many countries envy us for it.
Yeo Boon Eng (Ms)
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BeContented:
θ倧οΌchiefοΌδΈεΊζοΌδΎΏη₯ζ沑ζ :udaman:In my 1.5 years surfing KSP, I hardly had chance to see Chief in action. (maybe I missed them). Now I see the power..... :udaman:
Poll sounds good :rahrah: -
Way2GO:
:goodpost: bro.Chief, is ur post gonna be set up with d options format u indicated in ur last post ?
N pollsters can only choose one of d options listed?
My problem if dat is d format adopted is dat it may not capture d complete picture fr pollsters.
Eg in item 1, my answer wld include 1a), 1b). & 1c).
according to my take on dis issue:
Whilst tuition shd be made available for weaker students who needs it, it has become a thriving industry where d selling point is to give students who may not necessarily be weak in a subject but whose parents hv d financial resources, d extra advantage in d intense competition to gain a place in d commonly perceived better schools n/or scholarships.
In a meritocratic society, it is dis perpetual rat race to be ahead of oneβs peers in d keen competition for limited vacancies dat drives d demand, n thus d emergence of supply to meet dat demand. It is a systemic βflawβ dat is self perpetuating, contributed in parts by both policies n d participants (parents/students) n thus not easily solve. It is threatening to become an issue which will stratify d social divide further if not properly addressed. -
limlim:
larva like to hide in buds..?[/quote]You talking abt how fast i breed issit..
Why I read that as larva? Must be the heat ...FQW:
[quote=\"schweppes\"]
after the heat
, she's gotta spread some lurrve :love:
but still.. not like mosquitoes hor.
:wrongmove:
You guys are right.. must the the heat getting to ya.
Schweppes, you know me best sista. :celebrate: -
limlim:
:evil:
Hence buds is teaching us.. :evil:verykiasu2010:
because teachers don't teach :evil: -
buds:
:evil:[/quote]Which subject or topic ar?
Hence buds is teaching us.. :evil:limlim:
[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
because teachers don't teach :evil:
S education??
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actually, if tuition centres are not private entities but come under MOE (MOE will access the centres based on their curriculum or some quality as in ISO cert) , maybe the problem can be mitigated.
The classes can charge a std fee . Could be divided into 2 categories- CAt I class is for those who need help with main syllabus.Fees could be subsidised for Cat 1 classes and kept very affordable,and teachers who are hard-pressed for time to focus on these few indiv can send them for such classes.CAt II will be for those who are scoring well, and can be stretched more acc to their capabilities (aka enrichment) as assessed by grades and catII centres.Just like what one premium centre is doing before students can be enrolled there. Fees for these classes will be std and affordable thereby eradicating the need for those premium centres.
The premises for the tuition can be held schools or community centres, like Blurdad mentioned, without incurring additional rental costs.
But of course, private tutors will stone me as it's taking away their rice bowls. But they can always sign up as tutors for these centres. At least needy students with a genuine need for external coaching can have a venue for that w/o the strains on the families' pockets.
Feel free to disagree. My 2c
Peace :xedfingers:
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