Opinions of the Primary School Registration System
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newkeynesian:
There are and will be good students all over the schools across Singapore. The point is the core of the brightest will want to go to the good schools for the school programs have on offer such as GEP and other CCAs and student- exchange programs etc which are not available in the so called neighbourhood schools.
But these bright PR kids still remain in Singapore. It is good that the neighbourhood schools also benefit from this. Why should the good schools be the only ones who get the benefits? There will be bright singaporeans in all schools too, and I think maybe more in \"good schools\", so if this is really the consequence of Singaporean first, then it is another plus point for Singaporean first, though indirectly.Baby_May_09:
[quote=\"newkeynesian\"]Agree. As long as the child is Singaporean, the requirement is met. Do bear in mind by forcing out the bright PR kids out of good schools, the good schools are going to miss out on this pool of talent(s). On the other hand, the neighbourhood schools are going to benefit from this inflow of PR or foreign kids.
As long as competition is healthy, we should embrace it.
What do you think?
Most, if not all, would like to go to good school regardless of whether they are the brightest. When I say good, I don't only mean the branded school or school strong in academic, I mean good school that is suitable for the child
If you think killing competition is a good thing with the Singaporean First policy, well, I guess you need to expand a little bit in this aspect. What makes us keeps producing the BEST students against others in most exams held worldwide is because of all these bright students from all over the countries help to keep our local bright on their toes in terms of academic performance.
No, I don't think that we are killing competition by supporting Singaporean first in this case. Aren't the students from all over the world still in Singapore school?
At the end of the day, many of these PRs have resorted to pledge their allegience to Singapore. There will be some spillover effect from this Singaporean First policy but it is going to be minimal. Hence, the bright ones will still come from good schools and the bright ones will only go to good schools.
Isn't it good that many of these PRs (especially the bright ones that you mentioned) pledge their allegience to Singapore? What spillover effect are you referring to?
Have a good day.[/quote]Wish you a good day too. By the way, are you a PR? -
limlim:
:goodpost: Agree with you here.
For e.g. with I was in P school, I have my interests.. but, the school don't have the resources or the interest to develop a kids ability to their maximum potential. For e.g. branded school may have an established science club, maths club etc.. for student to pursue their interests and hobbies.. while for neighborhood school, maybe it is lacking or the school's main focus is on \"better PLSE passing rate\", and no more energy to develop the kids in other areas (like future scientist, artist etc..).
That is the impression I get. Maybe things change now.. But I still feel a little regrettable that I'm deprived of some of the resources that I might have in other \"better schools\", which I didn't get in the Primary school that I attended.
Hence, I make sure my kids get into a reasonable school that has reasonable resources for them to seek their interests and develop their potential, not only academically.
They may face difficulties at P1, but they could appreciate the exposure at P4..
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Next, I want to talk about Secondary School. I choose a neighborhood school. I top some subjects in the school in O level. The feeling is good, of coz.. however, after I went to JC, I realized.. the training I receive seems to be different from those of top schools. The other students seems very well-exposed.. so many things my teacher did not teach me. If I had went to a better school, the exposure might be different and I might get a better shot at developing my potential further. Then again, it may be a dilemma.. to be an average ranking student who is well trained in top school, or a top student but not well trained in an unknown school? YMMV.. maybe I wouldn't regret my choice..
I do not want my kids to be deprived of the things that I wanted to have but never get.
I would want them to be in a better school, to get a chance at that shot for greater success.
Different parents might have different view.. But I just share what I felt. -
lonejean:
Suddenly have this notti thought for those parents under P2A, pls don't shoot me..lilfeets:
But of course! How many scholars have they hired to make sure PR is very well mamaged. :rotflmao:
One or 2 letters to ST forum is not likely to create immediate impact in my view. The pressure is not high enough. They will have an answer well drafted in response and then parents for next year registration will face the same challenges again. There's not enough pressure, and based on the recent year(s) GE and PE, social media impact on government may just work wonders :roll:
If a parent who stays near a popular school and cannot get in and start complaining, how abt parent who is under P2A and stays far from the popular school complains to govt not providing HDB subsidy so they can shift near to the school for his/her child? You know govt has this policy that encourage children to stay near their parents.
*I am running away before getting shot* -
wonderm:
I do agree that all parents would want to give them the best, a shot for success. By all means, squeeze in.....whoever makes the effort gets it....I have no issue.
:goodpost: Agree with you here.limlim:
For e.g. with I was in P school, I have my interests.. but, the school don't have the resources or the interest to develop a kids ability to their maximum potential. For e.g. branded school may have an established science club, maths club etc.. for student to pursue their interests and hobbies.. while for neighborhood school, maybe it is lacking or the school's main focus is on \"better PLSE passing rate\", and no more energy to develop the kids in other areas (like future scientist, artist etc..).
That is the impression I get. Maybe things change now.. But I still feel a little regrettable that I'm deprived of some of the resources that I might have in other \"better schools\", which I didn't get in the Primary school that I attended.
Hence, I make sure my kids get into a reasonable school that has reasonable resources for them to seek their interests and develop their potential, not only academically.
They may face difficulties at P1, but they could appreciate the exposure at P4..
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Next, I want to talk about Secondary School. I choose a neighborhood school. I top some subjects in the school in O level. The feeling is good, of coz.. however, after I went to JC, I realized.. the training I receive seems to be different from those of top schools. The other students seems very well-exposed.. so many things my teacher did not teach me. If I had went to a better school, the exposure might be different and I might get a better shot at developing my potential further. Then again, it may be a dilemma.. to be an average ranking student who is well trained in top school, or a top student but not well trained in an unknown school? YMMV.. maybe I wouldn't regret my choice..
I do not want my kids to be deprived of the things that I wanted to have but never get.
I would want them to be in a better school, to get a chance at that shot for greater success.
Different parents might have different view.. But I just share what I felt.
But in the event that the child is unable to cope, what's next?
That's why I felt that Chief's post in another thread on choosing the suitable school is really really important FOR the CHILD. -
LostInWoods:
Suddenly have this notti thought for those parents under P2A, pls don't shoot me..lonejean:
[quote=\"lilfeets\"]But of course! How many scholars have they hired to make sure PR is very well mamaged. :rotflmao:
One or 2 letters to ST forum is not likely to create immediate impact in my view. The pressure is not high enough. They will have an answer well drafted in response and then parents for next year registration will face the same challenges again. There's not enough pressure, and based on the recent year(s) GE and PE, social media impact on government may just work wonders :roll:
If a parent who stays near a popular school and cannot get in and start complaining, how abt parent who is under P2A and stays far from the popular school complains to govt not providing HDB subsidy so they can shift near to the school for his/her child? You know govt has this policy that encourage children to stay near their parents.
*I am running away before getting shot*[/quote]
hahaha...impossible to have this ... :rotflmao: -
But these bright PR kids still remain in Singapore. It is good that the neighbourhood schools also benefit from this. Why should the good schools be the only ones who get the benefits? There will be bright singaporeans in all schools too, and I think maybe more in \"good schools\", so if this is really the consequence of Singaporean first, then it is another plus point for Singaporean first, though indirectly.[/quote]
There are and will be good students all over the schools across Singapore. The point is the core of the brightest will want to go to the good schools for the school programs have on offer such as GEP and other CCAs and student- exchange programs etc which are not available in the so called neighbourhood schools.
Most, if not all, would like to go to good school regardless of whether they are the brightest. When I say good, I don't only mean the branded school or school strong in academic, I mean good school that is suitable for the child
If you think killing competition is a good thing with the Singaporean First policy, well, I guess you need to expand a little bit in this aspect. What makes us keeps producing the BEST students against others in most exams held worldwide is because of all these bright students from all over the countries help to keep our local bright on their toes in terms of academic performance.
No, I don't think that we are killing competition by supporting Singaporean first in this case. Aren't the students from all over the world still in Singapore school? If we were to continue with the Singaporean First policy down the road, I am afraid the bright foreign kids will dwindle in numbers as their parents will look elsewhere. The signal to foreigners should end here.
At the end of the day, many of these PRs have resorted to pledge their allegience to Singapore. There will be some spillover effect from this Singaporean First policy but it is going to be minimal. Hence, the bright ones will still come from good schools and the bright ones will only go to good schools.
Isn't it good that many of these PRs (especially the bright ones that you mentioned) pledge their allegience to Singapore? Yes and it will continue to benefit our kids. What spillover effect are you referring to?I am referring to the number for those who are not going for the pink i/c is minimal. Rationally speaking, it makes sense for either parent to obtain the pink i/c and continue with the game.
Have a good day.[/quote]
Wish you a good day too. By the way, are you a PR?[/quote]
I am a true blue singaporean who have done 2.5 years national service and continue paying my dues during annual ICT. -
BeContented:
I do agree that all parents would want to give them the best, a shot for success. By all means, squeeze in.....whoever makes the effort gets it....I have no issue.
:goodpost: Agree with you here.wonderm:
[quote=\"limlim\"]
For e.g. with I was in P school, I have my interests.. but, the school don't have the resources or the interest to develop a kids ability to their maximum potential. For e.g. branded school may have an established science club, maths club etc.. for student to pursue their interests and hobbies.. while for neighborhood school, maybe it is lacking or the school's main focus is on \"better PLSE passing rate\", and no more energy to develop the kids in other areas (like future scientist, artist etc..).
That is the impression I get. Maybe things change now.. But I still feel a little regrettable that I'm deprived of some of the resources that I might have in other \"better schools\", which I didn't get in the Primary school that I attended.
Hence, I make sure my kids get into a reasonable school that has reasonable resources for them to seek their interests and develop their potential, not only academically.
They may face difficulties at P1, but they could appreciate the exposure at P4..
-----
Next, I want to talk about Secondary School. I choose a neighborhood school. I top some subjects in the school in O level. The feeling is good, of coz.. however, after I went to JC, I realized.. the training I receive seems to be different from those of top schools. The other students seems very well-exposed.. so many things my teacher did not teach me. If I had went to a better school, the exposure might be different and I might get a better shot at developing my potential further. Then again, it may be a dilemma.. to be an average ranking student who is well trained in top school, or a top student but not well trained in an unknown school? YMMV.. maybe I wouldn't regret my choice..
I do not want my kids to be deprived of the things that I wanted to have but never get.
I would want them to be in a better school, to get a chance at that shot for greater success.
Different parents might have different view.. But I just share what I felt.
But in the event that the child is unable to cope, what's next?
That's why I felt that Chief's post in another thread on choosing the suitable school is really really important FOR the CHILD.[/quote]I agree there is no point squeezing into a school where the child cannot cope.
On the other hand, I agree with limlim's point above that it is better to be an average student in a school which provides more exposure than be the top student of another school which may not have the facilities or opportunities to stretch the child.
I think a child's potential is not fully reflected by his exam scores. Take the example of choosing a Sec school, we can't assume one with a borderline PSLE score will continue to be the bottom of cohort in that school. Given the exposure provided by the school and motivation from other good students, he/she can grow from a small to a medium or even a big fish.
In summary, suitability is the key! Parents have to make a judgement call here, taking into account the ability and character of the child. -
Suddenly have this notti thought for those parents under P2A, pls don't shoot me..
If a parent who stays near a popular school and cannot get in and start complaining, how abt parent who is under P2A and stays far from the popular school complains to govt not providing HDB subsidy so they can shift near to the school for his/her child? You know govt has this policy that encourage children to stay near their parents.
*I am running away before getting shot*[/quote]
hahaha...impossible to have this ... :rotflmao:[/quote]
:rotflmao:
super funny. I like... 
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wonderm:
I agree there is no point squeezing into a school where the child cannot cope.BeContented:
I do agree that all parents would want to give them the best, a shot for success. By all means, squeeze in.....whoever makes the effort gets it....I have no issue.
But in the event that the child is unable to cope, what's next?
That's why I felt that Chief's post in another thread on choosing the suitable school is really really important FOR the CHILD.
On the other hand, I agree with limlim's point above that it is better to be an average student in a school which provides more exposure than be the top student of another school which may not have the facilities or opportunities to stretch the child.
I think a child's potential is not fully reflected by his exam scores. Take the example of choosing a Sec school, we can't assume one with a borderline PSLE score will continue to be the bottom of cohort in that school. Given the exposure provided by the school and motivation from other good students, he/she can grow from a small to a medium or even a big fish.
In summary, suitability is the key! Parents have to make a judgement call here, taking into account the ability and character of the child.
If a child still can be an average student in school that provides the exposure they want.....good for all. In every school.....there will be good, average, poor. As long as they (parents & children) can accept 'average'. Like you mentioned, some will bloom later....
Agree to those in bold
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alng:
No need to track them down...if no branded schools (highly impossible), then these HODs and principals should be posted back to MOE.janet_lee88:
No NYPS, RGPS, CHS, Tao Nan etc etc...all renamed as ABC Primary School. Is this possible?
Then parents will start to track where do the Principals and HODs of these ex-branded schools get posted to.
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