Asia spending billions on tutors: study

[Augmum]

ksi:

Augmum:

i juz ride on it....ksi, have been wondering why u're still using the valentine avatar

Or isit my notebk having the same prob again, displaying the old avatar.

:offtopic: (bear with me) hee hee Augmum, long time no see...

Yalor, long time no chat.....same goes to the other old regulars....

ksi:

(1) I feel that everyday is like Valentine's Day

That's is a very positive mindset....good to have that....

ksi:

(2) I got lazier and lazier and lazier....which I termed as busier and busier and busier.... Life is full of excuses...kekeke

Haha, sama sama, i have not change my avatar for ages, avatar craze in this forum has gone....

ksi:

ok, I got the message, yr notebook is working fine! ....time to look for a new avante garde avatar! Ya........hoooooooooooooooooooo! :rahrah: Be back soon!

K, looking forward for a refreshing new look.....
Paiseh to the rest for riding on :offtopic:

[iRabbit]

janet_lee88:

I strongly suspect teachers keep their 'weapon' or special skill for private tuition. Teachers are paid standard amount in school but paid many times more giving tuition.
I'm going to be shot for saying that but it is the truth.

Psst Janet, don't suspect lah. Why don't you go ask your son's many tutors whether they keep 'secret weapon' for tuition alone, kekeke. :evil:

As the current record holder for $ spend on tuition [$2,000 per mth, per child] you've certainly earned the right to know.

[SAHM_TAN]

FQW:

janet_lee88:

I strongly suspect teachers keep their 'weapon' or special skill for private tuition. Teachers are paid standard amount in school but paid many times more giving tuition.
I'm going to be shot for saying that but it is the truth.

Psst Janet, don't suspect lah. Why don't you go ask your son's many tutors whether they keep 'secret weapon' for tuition alone, kekeke. :evil:

As the current record holder for $ spend on tuition [$2,000 per mth, per child] you've certainly earned the right to know.

Janet,

Are your ds' tutors all current trs?

[Imami]

janet_lee88:

TLL is a tuition centre...I know of someone who sends both kids there for math, English and science...hope I didn't get it wrong. But it isn't an enrichment centre right? :?

Serious ah? I remembered listening on a radio talk show. The topic of that day was about tll screening kids prior to enrollment. If it's a tuition centre, why still need screening? No good then go there to buck up mah... Make no sense to set tests to screen the kids... :scratchhead:

[Augmum]

May i know how many hrs per wk or per mth are sch teachers allow to moonlight??

I understand that they need to apply thru Moe prior to it, right?
Are these applications very likely to approve or they need to have good reasons for it ? Juz curious…

[jedamum]

Seriously, IMO, enrichment means dancing classes, piano, swimming, chess, tennis etc. Anything academic even like TLL is consider tuition.

[jedamum]

Augmum:

May i know how many hrs per wk or per mth are sch teachers allow to moonlight??

I understand that they need to apply thru Moe prior to it, right?
Are these applications very likely to approve or they need to have good reasons for it ? Juz curious.....

I think is 8 hours. No need tell moe. Think must get principal approval. Cannot teach same sch kids.

[corneyAmber]

Augmum:

May i know how many hrs per wk or per mth are sch teachers allow to moonlight??

I understand that they need to apply thru Moe prior to it, right?
Are these applications very likely to approve or they need to have good reasons for it ? Juz curious.....

Paying top dollar for a private tutor (Feb 2009)

Teachers in schools here are charging students a fee of up to four times the hourly market rate for private home tuition.

However, according to a report that appeared in Wanbao, some errant teachers are tutoring students from the same school that they teach, or even from their own classes.

This was alleged by a parent who complained to the Ministry of Education, unhappy about such a practice, reported the Chinese daily.

It begs the question if teachers have become too mercenary, said the parent, in offering their services as private tutors - for the right fee - to students that they teach.

According to guidelines for teachers set by the Ministry of Education (MOE), teachers are allowed to take on tutoring assignments outside of work, but they are not allowed to tutor students who are from the same school.

This is in order to prevent any conflicts of interest that may arise. It would be difficult for the teacher to remain impartial, such as during the marking of papers.

Sending the wrong message

Days ago, Zaobao columnist Huang Yi Cheng (40, part-time lecturer) wrote a column in the Chinese paper. In his article, he revealed that a colleague had hired his son's teacher to be his home-tutor, leading to a heated debate amongst his colleagues present.

He later called MOE to seek clarification on whether such a practice goes against rules for teachers set by the ministry.

Mr Huang told the Wanbao, that the teacher his colleague hired charged a fee of $80 per hour. This is four times higher than the $20 per hour fee charged by most other tutors.

As a parent himself, Mr Huang said he understands that all parents want the best for their children. However, he maintained he would never do the same thing his colleague did.

He said: \"I don't want to send the wrong message to my children that as long as they have the money, they can hire their teacher to be their tutor at home. It makes learning seem like a business transaction.\"

\"What sort of message does it send your child, if he doesn't do well in class and you hire your teacher to tutor him after school? It gets you the results, but it also sends them the message that money can buy you anything.

\"The younger generation may become a materialistic and self-serving bunch as a result,\" said Mr Huang.

Mr Huang believes there are other teachers out there who do not observe the rules set by MOE.

\"Are these teachers fit to mould the minds of our future generation?\" he asked.

40% of teachers give part-time tuition

According to insiders in the education industry, the market rate for tuition charges are $18 to $50 per hour, depending on the level of of study (such as primary or secondary), as well as the academic qualifications of the tutor.

It is estimated that 40% of teachers in schools are also part-time tuition teachers, charging rates of up three times higher than usual.

MOE's response

MOE's stand on the issue is that teachers are strictly not allowed to tutor students from the same school in private.

According to an MOE spokesperson, teachers should commit wholeheartedly to teaching at school. Any part-time jobs taken outside of school should not hinder the teachers's performance and should not present any conflict of interest

In addition, other guidelines set by MOE regarding such jobs outside of school are that they must first seek approval from the principal, and they must keep their time spent on giving tuition to not more than 6 hours per week.

Teachers are also not allowed make use of school property such as classrooms to conduct their private lessons.

Source: http://www.asiaone.com/News/Education/Story/A1Story20090225-124547.html

[fightingmom]

Ksi,


Just wondering out loud - the article you posted was dated Feb 2009. I presume there is no changes to the 6hours per week ?

[Augmum]

Thanks Jedamum and Ksi for yr reponses to my question.