All About GEP

[Lynn2010]

jtoh:

Nebbermind:

[quote=\"jtoh\"] And then you have parents who take the advice to the core and give home support by doing their kids' homework and projects for them. Hahahahaha!!! :rotflmao:

Like I said before, it's an enrichment process. If your kids gained from your intervention, or in that process, u triggered his/her interest in certain areas, it's still win-win.

My tongue-in-cheek statement was about parents who literally do their kids' homework and projects for them. Maybe not 100%, but significant. Or outsource them to tutors/lecturers to do.[/quote]I'm very sure the parents/tutors helping happens. I remember DD told me that a few of her classmates hand-in perfect work. No ned for 2nd or 3rd draft. \"Unfortunately\" I always asked my dd to do the assignment on her own, and if she had to do a 2nd or 3rd draft, so be it. At least she is learning, the dos and donts.

Not fair leh, all these assignments are graded. But what to do, I O Sim. Must fall then she can learn how to stand, i cant hold her hand forever!

[ForumWriter]

jtoh:

GEP does keep a close eye on the centres and the students.

Too true. I still get those survey letters from MOE, reminding me that they're still stalking me.

[ForumWriter]

Lynn2010:

I'm very sure the parents/tutors helping happens. I remember DD told me that a few of her classmates hand-in perfect work. No ned for 2nd or 3rd draft. \"Unfortunately\" I always asked my dd to do the assignment on her own, and if she had to do a 2nd or 3rd draft, so be it. At least she is learning, the dos and donts.

Not fair leh, all these assignments are graded. But what to do, I O Sim. Must fall then she can learn how to stand, i cant hold her hand forever!

That is correct. Some parents are very proactive in their kids' work so that they can get high marks, even until secondary school.

We once had to create a Rolling Ball Sculpture as a group assignment. I was amazed at the complexity and automation of some groups' RBS. I couldn't imagine that kids would have the resourcefulness and ability to stake out hardware shops, purchase motors and other construction materials and even program the entire system! Definitely lots of parental help there.

I've observed that they mostly come from the same socioeconomic group too, and their mothers mostly hold the same jobs.

[jtoh]

Lynn2010:

I'm very sure the parents/tutors helping happens. I remember DD told me that a few of her classmates hand-in perfect work. No ned for 2nd or 3rd draft. \"Unfortunately\" I always asked my dd to do the assignment on her own, and if she had to do a 2nd or 3rd draft, so be it. At least she is learning, the dos and donts.

Not fair leh, all these assignments are graded. But what to do, I O Sim. Must fall then she can learn how to stand, i cant hold her hand forever!

My philosophy is the same as yours. Let them do it on their own and take ownership of their projects and homework. GEP is a learning process and the skills they take away from doing projects on their own will serve them well in future.

[Nebbermind]

ForumWriter:

That is correct. Some parents are very proactive in their kids' work so that they can get high marks, even until secondary school.


We once had to create a Rolling Ball Sculpture as a group assignment. I was amazed at the complexity and automation of some groups' RBS. I couldn't imagine that kids would have the resourcefulness and ability to stake out hardware shops, purchase motors and other construction materials and even program the entire system! Definitely lots of parental help there.

I've observed that they mostly come from the same socioeconomic group too, and their mothers mostly hold the same jobs.

But that's a fact of life, ya?
There are many parents here who can teach or tutor their kids, some even accelerate the school curriculum by a yr or 2. Unfair advantage?

As parents, we must also be cautious. We can bring our kids to a certain destination. But if he is not able to advance from there...or worse, cannot even replicate the original journey, then he is in BIG trouble.

[HAPPYH]

Nebbermind:

ForumWriter:

That is correct. Some parents are very proactive in their kids' work so that they can get high marks, even until secondary school.


We once had to create a Rolling Ball Sculpture as a group assignment. I was amazed at the complexity and automation of some groups' RBS. I couldn't imagine that kids would have the resourcefulness and ability to stake out hardware shops, purchase motors and other construction materials and even program the entire system! Definitely lots of parental help there.

I've observed that they mostly come from the same socioeconomic group too, and their mothers mostly hold the same jobs.

But that's a fact of life, ya?
There are many parents here who can teach or tutor their kids, some even accelerate the school curriculum by a yr or 2. Unfair advantage?

As parents, we must also be cautious. We can bring our kids to a certain destination. But if he is not able to advance from there...or worse, cannot even replicate the original journey, then he is in BIG trouble.

Strongly agree with you.

My friend and her hubby are seriously doing the (GEP) project works and collect data/details and stay late until 2 am, etc....Not much contribution form the child. Then it really defeats the purpose.

[jtoh]

HAPPYH:

My friend and her hubby are seriously doing the (GEP) project works and collect data/details and stay late until 2 am, etc....Not much contribution form the child. Then it really defeats the purpose.

How old is your friend's child? I hope they have the energy to do his/her homework in secondary school, JC and university.

[verykiasu2010]

jtoh:

HAPPYH:

My friend and her hubby are seriously doing the (GEP) project works and collect data/details and stay late until 2 am, etc....Not much contribution form the child. Then it really defeats the purpose.

How old is your friend's child? I hope they have the energy to do his/her homework in secondary school, JC and university.

child's age is of no concern. of concern is the age of the parents if you consider uni and post grad research or post PhD research etc

[Flowermonaster]

verykiasu2010:

jtoh:

[quote=\"HAPPYH\"]

My friend and her hubby are seriously doing the (GEP) project works and collect data/details and stay late until 2 am, etc....Not much contribution form the child. Then it really defeats the purpose.

How old is your friend's child? I hope they have the energy to do his/her homework in secondary school, JC and university.

child's age is of no concern. of concern is the age of the parents if you consider uni and post grad research or post PhD research etc[/quote] :rotflmao:

[jtoh]

verykiasu2010:

jtoh:

[quote=\"HAPPYH\"]

My friend and her hubby are seriously doing the (GEP) project works and collect data/details and stay late until 2 am, etc....Not much contribution form the child. Then it really defeats the purpose.

How old is your friend's child? I hope they have the energy to do his/her homework in secondary school, JC and university.

child's age is of no concern. of concern is the age of the parents if you consider uni and post grad research or post PhD research etc[/quote]Haha! The parents will be studying with their kid way into retirement age.