Logo
    • Education
      • Pre-School
      • Primary Schools Directory
      • Primary Schools Articles
      • P1 Registration
      • DSA
      • PSLE
      • Secondary
      • Tertiary
      • Special Needs
    • Lifestyle
      • Well-being
    • Activities
      • Events
    • Enrichment & Services
      • Find A Service Provider
      • Enrichment Articles
      • Enrichment Services
      • Tuition Centre/Private Tutor
      • Infant Care/ Childcare / Student Care Centre
      • Kindergarten/Preschool
      • Private Institutions and International Schools
      • Special Needs
      • Indoor & Outdoor Playgrounds
      • Paediatrics
      • Neonatal Care
    • Forum
    • ASKQ
    • Register
    • Login

    All About GEP

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved GEP
    6.7k Posts 720 Posters 2.7m Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • J Offline
      jtoh
      last edited by

      sleepy:
      PiggyLalala:

      Any idea what is the percentage of the GE pupils who fail to get into the IP schools each year?


      If I remember correctly, the statistics that principal shown us, 30% didn't receive any DSA offer. Statistics only referring to dd's school.

      That's the DSA offer figure for your dd's school. I believe most of the others will probably get into IP schools via PSLE results.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • F Offline
        ForumWriter
        last edited by

        Don’t know what you guys think, but personally I am vehemently against DSA.


        If the kid is good enough to get into top school, good. No point for DSA to exist.

        If the kid isn’t good enough to get into top schools normally but gets in through DSA, there is a very high chance that he/she will suffer throughout the rest of his/her secondary school life. DSA does more harm than good here.

        So, what is the point of DSA, other than benefiting the school then they select sportsmen?

        I have a strong inclination to believe that DSA is also one of the primary underlying factors behind this current trend in favour of tuition.

        IP is also another poor scheme, in my opinion, which leads to increased tuition because everyone tries to get into IP schools so that they can skip O-levels. The mindset seems to be, "Chiong in Primary school, get into IP, then can slack until A-levels", therefore, everyone is going for tuition.

        Most of my friends also felt that IP was inferior to the O-level system since the only change was more project work - which parents here have rightly pointed out, is unfair because some parents end up doing the projects instead. But now that the IP schools are introducing more varied modules and educational trips, hopefully it is better than in the past.

        I am fully in support of IP schools setting a strict (not necessarily difficult) test every year where a pass is mandatory; failing which, students will be expelled. The intention of IP was to let those who are good enough skip O-levels. It was never meant to be a passport to the A-levels regardless of how one performed in his time at the school.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • V Offline
          verykiasu2010
          last edited by

          ForumWriter:


          IP is also another poor scheme, in my opinion, which leads to increased tuition because everyone tries to get into IP schools so that they can skip O-levels. The mindset seems to be, \"Chiong in Primary school, get into IP, then can slack until A-levels\", therefore, everyone is going for tuition.

          Most of my friends also felt that IP was inferior to the O-level system since the only change was more project work - which parents here have rightly pointed out, is unfair because some parents end up doing the projects instead. But now that the IP schools are introducing more varied modules and educational trips, hopefully it is better than in the past.
          people should go an find out the full curriculum offered by the various IP schools first before making judgement whether good or bad

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • J Offline
            jtoh
            last edited by

            verykiasu2010:
            ForumWriter:



            IP is also another poor scheme, in my opinion, which leads to increased tuition because everyone tries to get into IP schools so that they can skip O-levels. The mindset seems to be, \"Chiong in Primary school, get into IP, then can slack until A-levels\", therefore, everyone is going for tuition.

            Most of my friends also felt that IP was inferior to the O-level system since the only change was more project work - which parents here have rightly pointed out, is unfair because some parents end up doing the projects instead. But now that the IP schools are introducing more varied modules and educational trips, hopefully it is better than in the past.

            people should go an find out the full curriculum offered by the various IP schools first before making judgement whether good or bad

            I agree.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • PiggyLalalaP Offline
              PiggyLalala
              last edited by

              jtoh:
              verykiasu2010:

              [quote=\"ForumWriter\"]

              IP is also another poor scheme, in my opinion, which leads to increased tuition because everyone tries to get into IP schools so that they can skip O-levels. The mindset seems to be, \"Chiong in Primary school, get into IP, then can slack until A-levels\", therefore, everyone is going for tuition.

              Most of my friends also felt that IP was inferior to the O-level system since the only change was more project work - which parents here have rightly pointed out, is unfair because some parents end up doing the projects instead. But now that the IP schools are introducing more varied modules and educational trips, hopefully it is better than in the past.

              people should go an find out the full curriculum offered by the various IP schools first before making judgement whether good or bad

              [/quote]Personally I quite like the curriculum in my son's school - an IP school.
              As a parent, I would hope that my child can go to an IP school but would not be overly bother whether he is in GE or not.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • NebbermindN Offline
                Nebbermind
                last edited by

                Snow Crystal:
                Why are parents helping their kids to do projects so that they can ace and get high marks? 3 letter word: DSA
                Certainly a sweeping statement :roll:

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • C Offline
                  cluelessmama
                  last edited by

                  Frankly, I don't understand why there are all these GEP, DSA or IP \"bashing\" - I don't intend to offend anybody.


                  Just to share my experience : I can see that my dd has benefitted a lot from gep, and my dd agrees with this view. Prior to gep, she was very bored with the \"easy yet repetitive\" school work and thus was dreamland most of her time. Even though she did not suffer academically, I could see she was literally \"wilting\". She only became \"alived\" after joining the gep. Yes, sometimes the workload might become heavier due to projects and competition. However, she is not complaining. Sometimes, I offered to help vet her draft but she would flatly refused by saying:\"No, thank you.\" However, when it comes to buying materials for her project, she will let me do the \"footwork.\"

                  Fortunately, dd has done fairly well for cas and sas for the last 2 years and sa1 for this year. She knows that the results are important for applying for DSA. She knows too that she will mostly like enter schools which offer IP if she does well - she has told me on many occasions that she wants to be in IP coz she thinks that it is a continuation of what she does in gep. She likes project works and enjoys challenges.

                  On my part, I see the DSA as a blessing. I can see that my dd has really worked hard to perform well while enjoying herself. Because of this, I have not really \"pushed\" her or put pressure on her to achieve extremely high score for the PSLE. I just want to use these few months (or weeks) to revise and prepare normally for PSLE; I do not want her to feel like she's cooped up in a pressure cooker. Incidentally, this is what she said yesterday :\" I think this is my most relaxed year!\" - I hope this strategy of mine worked, and will not be overly shocked by her PSLE results! :xedfingers:

                  Thanks for reading.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • 8 Offline
                    8228
                    last edited by

                    There is a SS prelim on Aug 14. What is it for? :?

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • H Offline
                      HAPPYH
                      last edited by

                      jtoh:
                      HAPPYH:



                      My friend and her hubby are seriously doing the (GEP) project works and collect data/details and stay late until 2 am, etc....Not much contribution form the child. Then it really defeats the purpose.

                      How old is your friend's child? I hope they have the energy to do his/her homework in secondary school, JC and university.

                      P5 now. I also warned them but they dont want to lose out.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • H Offline
                        HAPPYH
                        last edited by

                        verykiasu2010:
                        jtoh:



                        Haha! The parents will be studying with their kid way into retirement age.

                        then GEP = Granny's Education Program

                        😆

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0

                        Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                        Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                        With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                        Register Login
                        • 1
                        • 2
                        • 463
                        • 464
                        • 465
                        • 466
                        • 467
                        • 668
                        • 669
                        • 465 / 669
                        • First post
                          Last post



                        Online Users

                        Statistics

                        9

                        Online

                        210.8k

                        Users

                        34.3k

                        Topics

                        1.8m

                        Posts
                        Popular Topics
                        New to the KiasuParents forum? Tips and Tricks!
                        Choosing and Evaluating Primary Schools
                        DSA 2026
                        PSLE Discussions and Strategies
                        How much do you spend on the kids' tuition/enrichments?
                        SkillsFuture + anything related to upskilling/learning something new!

                          About Us Contact Us forum Terms of Service Privacy Policy