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    • L Offline
      Lynn2010
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      Zeng:
      Lynn2010:



      Have lah.... one can provide tuition from their home in both HDB and private houses. In HDB, i think you can provide up to 4 kids at one go. For private, may have lesser restrictions. Bedroom can turn into classroom as long as it is properly furnished i think. That is, not sitting on a bed [errrrr..... single bed can sit at least 10 kids lengthwise + breadth can sit 3 skinny kids - wow that is 26 kids !!! ..... :slapshead: ]

      When i was doing my A levels, i remembered attending an Eng/GP tuition class in a katong house. The tutor claimed to be a writer/journalist. I must say he is quite good, mark your essays and teach. BUT.... many levels can run at the same time. I found out when i went to the toilet. 🕺

      This is how he run - eg. 2 to 3.30pm Sunday slot can be for Sec 1, Sec 2, Sec 3, Sec 4. All different classes (different rooms, kitchen, living, bedroom, etc). So, you must be wondering how he split himself into 4. First, he will teach the first class for about 5 min or so (while the other levels sit around waiting for the class to start). Then he asked the first class to start practising on the writing style he taught, there was also \"worksheet\", then he proceed to the 2nd class, using the same way, then 3rd class, then 4th. He will then come back to the first class and walked around and mark on the spot.

      He was fine, but the attention given to each class is less than 1.5hr, he charged about $100 per student per month (probably 20 yrs ago), there were about 10 to 15 students in one class. Do the Math yourself, how much he earned a month!!

      I stopped after a few lessons as the travelling had taken a toll on me. i lived in the west and this place was east. Bus ride 1.5hr (per way) :siao: [the tutor quite nice looking lah]

      You have given good ideas for those who plan to start low cost tution centers at home!
      Charge $100 per hr and have 10 in 2 bedrooms at one time. So $2000 for 2 hours of work.
      Just need to work 2 hours a day and can earn $54 000 per month.
      Never realise it is such a lucrative business.

      Just work Sat & Sun will do. 8.30am to 5.00pm, 5 time slot, each time slot 5 levels (Sec 1 to 4 & JC), 1 slot 10 students, $100 per student. $100 x 10 students x 5 levels x 5 time slot x 2 days = $50,000.

      After a few years, he actually open another \"branch\". He bought a place at \"One Tree Hill\" (Orchard road) so that students who find that the east is too far, can travel to the central for tuition. How \"considerate\"!! :idea:

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        Lynn2010
        last edited by

        Zeng:
        sweetheart:

        Horrified when I read about the scam. Now I know giving tuition really makes big bucks, haha.... So with a GEP child who is also a level skip pupil + myself an ex sch teacher from a 'branded sch'... R these good credentials to start giving tuition? Haha....Anyone wanna hv tuition with me?


        Nay, no extra time on hand...
        Still appalled when I read about Kelvin ong's case.

        With a GEP kid and with branded sch teacher label, you will do very well in the tuition business.

        You frame up the MOE letter that showed your kid was selected for GEP and put it on the front entrance.

        Invite all your successful ex students and relatives to provide touching testimonials.

        Give a Nice center name with a catchy phrase:

        \"SweetHeart Center\": Where we will transform all your sweethearts into geniuses like mine!

        There you go, you are on the road to becoming a multi-millionnaire!

        You can have many classes at one go..... living room, 3 bedrooms, dining area, balcony (if you have), toilets (if big enough)

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          Kiasucy
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          Lynn2010:
          Zeng:

          [quote=\"sweetheart\"]Horrified when I read about the scam. Now I know giving tuition really makes big bucks, haha.... So with a GEP child who is also a level skip pupil + myself an ex sch teacher from a 'branded sch'... R these good credentials to start giving tuition? Haha....Anyone wanna hv tuition with me?


          Nay, no extra time on hand...
          Still appalled when I read about Kelvin ong's case.

          With a GEP kid and with branded sch teacher label, you will do very well in the tuition business.

          You frame up the MOE letter that showed your kid was selected for GEP and put it on the front entrance.

          Invite all your successful ex students and relatives to provide touching testimonials.

          Give a Nice center name with a catchy phrase:

          \"SweetHeart Center\": Where we will transform all your sweethearts into geniuses like mine!

          There you go, you are on the road to becoming a multi-millionnaire!

          You can have many classes at one go..... living room, 3 bedrooms, dining area, balcony (if you have), toilets (if big enough)[/quote]OMG! Is it necessary to go till such extend? :siao: Why can't everybody just stick to their own school teachers like we did last time. Poor kids! :sad:

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            NickleBee Tutors
            last edited by

            Came across this discussion regarding the fraudulent actions of a tutor who made rather bombastic claims of being both a former GEP student and a trained MOE GEP teacher when he was actually neither. It also appears that he has recently been outed as not even being a NUS Double Mathematics Graduate to begin with and is instead a physiotherapist with a diploma from Nanyang Polytechnic.


            Just a little background of myself. I was from the Gifted Education Programme in Rosyth Primary, following which I gained admission into Raffles Institution Gifted Education Programme (in the days before IP) and did my ‘A’ Levels at Victoria JC (despite me being an ‘O’ Level 2 pointer as I wanted a change of academic environment). Took a long detour into NUS Dentistry because my mother wanted the prestige of having a son who’s a doctor but I was never really happy inside and I quit in my 4th year. I am currently an accountancy undergrad and and the owner of NickleBee Tutors which I set up together with a couple of friends in the MOE teaching service. I specialize in providing tutoring and mentoring services in Mathematics to Gifted Education Programme, High Ability and Integrated Programme students for a while now, and what started out as a means to pay my way through college has become a passion for me. I hope to join the MOE teaching service one day.

            I will not dwell on the morality and legalities of the tutor who was caught lying. Instead, I would like to shed some light on what parents can do to protect themselves and their child from such frauds in future.

            I have noticed that many parents I come across in my years of tutoring are surprised when I bring a portfolio of all my credentials and academic certificates on the first lesson. It took me a while to realize that it is not standard practice for tutors and educators to present their credentials during the first lesson and that most parents take the tutor’s education background claims at face value without further checks. I have only this to say, as parents, you would be putting your child’s education and future into the hands of a stranger. The least you could do is to check the Tutor’s credentials so as to ensure that the tutor does have an excellent knowledge of the subject he is supposed to teach. If the tutor’s certificates arouse suspicion, you can call MOE or the tutor’s previous schools to ascertain if the tutor is truly who he claims to be. After all, as former US president Ronald Reagan like to put it : "Trust, but verify".

            While it is true that tutors with excellent credentials, a good track record and who are in great demand, usually charge high fees (Economics 101), it does not mean that a tutor with sky high rates must be really good. Every child is different and what works for another child might not work with your’s. It is a good idea to sit nearby (but not at the same table as doing so would be rather distracting) during the first couple of lessons and observe the dynamics between the tutor and your child and also to ascertain that the tutor knows what he is teaching.

            Last but not least, there has been a recent trend of tuition centres placing student testimonials on their website. I never do feature testimonials on my website as I am of the opinion that since testimonials can be faked quite easily, I would rather place my student’s exam marks, school academic prizes and PSLE certificates on my website and let the results speak for themselves. Of course, one could argue that the students’ results could be altered and it is indeed a valid point. However, I believe that tutors should display the utmost integrity and honesty in all dealings with parents and if the tutor can’t even do something as simple as placing up his student’s results unembellished, he shouldn’t even be teaching in the first place.

            These are just my personal opinions on this matter and I thank you for taking the time to read this.

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              sweetheart
              last edited by

              Hi nicklebee tutor , well said. We need more tutors with integrity like u!


              No, I’m not from any tuition agency n neither do I hv any intention to open any…

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                NickleBee Tutors
                last edited by

                sweetheart:
                Hi nicklebee tutor , well said. We need more tutors with integrity like u!


                No, I'm not from any tuition agency n neither do I hv any intention to open any..
                Well, I like to think of myself as a Professional, and as my professor always say, being a Professional is to do the right thing even when no one's watching.

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                  Imami
                  last edited by

                  NickleBee Tutors:
                  Came across this discussion regarding the fraudulent actions of a tutor who made rather bombastic claims of being both a former GEP student and a trained MOE GEP teacher when he was actually neither. It also appears that he has recently been outed as not even being a NUS Double Mathematics Graduate to begin with and is instead a physiotherapist with a diploma from Nanyang Polytechnic.


                  Just a little background of myself. I was from the Gifted Education Programme in Rosyth Primary, following which I gained admission into Raffles Institution Gifted Education Programme (in the days before IP) and did my 'A' Levels at Victoria JC (despite me being an 'O' Level 2 pointer as I wanted a change of academic environment). I am currently an accountancy undergrad and the owner of NickleBee Tutors which I set up together with a couple of friends in the MOE teaching service. I specialize in teaching Mathematics to both GEP and High Ability students. I have been providing tutoring and mentoring services in Maths to Gifted Education Programme, High Ability and Integrated Programme students for a while now, and what started out as a means to pay my way through college has become a passion for me.

                  I will not dwell on the morality and legalities of the tutor who was caught lying. Instead, I would like to shed some light on what parents can do to protect themselves and their child from such frauds in future.

                  I have noticed that many parents I come across in my years of tutoring are surprised when I bring a portfolio of all my credentials and academic certificates on the first lesson. I took me a while to realize that it is not standard practice for tutors and educators to present their credentials during the first lesson and that most parents take the tutor's education background claims at face value without further checks. I have only this to say, as parents, you would be putting your child's education and future into the hands of a stranger. The least you could do is to check the Tutor's credentials so as to ensure that the tutor does have an excellent knowledge the subject he is supposed to teach. If the tutor's certificates arouse suspicion, you can call MOE or the tutor's previous schools to ascertain if the tutor is truly who he claims to be. After all, as former US president Ronald Reagan like to put it : \"Trust, but verify\".

                  While it is true that tutors with excellent credentials, a good track record and who are in demand, usually charge high fees (Economics 101), it does not mean that a tutor with sky high rates must be really good. Every child is different and what works for another child might not work with your's. It is a good idea to sit nearby (but not at the same table as doing so would be rather distracting) during the first couple of lessons and observe the dynamics between the tutor and your child and also to ascertain that the tutor knows what he is teaching.

                  Last but not least, there has been a recent trend of placing student testimonials on the tutoring centre's website. I never do feature testimonials on my website as I am of the opinion that since testimonials can be faked quite easily, I would rather place my student's exam marks, school academic prizes and PSLE certificates on my website and let the results speak for themselves. Of course, one could argue that the students' results could be altered and it is indeed a valid point. However, I believe that tutors should display the utmost integrity and honesty in all dealings with parents and if the tutor can't even do something as simple as placing up his student's results unembellished, he shouldn't even be teaching in the first place.

                  These are just my personal opinions on this matter and I thank you for taking the time to read this.
                  :goodpost:

                  Thank you for the tips.

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                    Aristo_uncare
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                    I understand that K***** once boasted to us parents that through his "hard" work in giving tuition he now owns 3 fully paid up landed properties.


                    I guess many of us parents have a stake in these properties.

                    Does anyone know how we can get our tution money back since his has definitely misrepresented himself!

                    Also, for those kids who have been tutored by a "GEP expert" and subsequently ended not in GEP, can the kids’ parents sue him?

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                      Zeng
                      last edited by

                      Aristo_uncare:
                      I understand that K***** once boasted to us parents that through his \"hard\" work in giving tuition he now owns 3 fully paid up landed properties.


                      I guess many of us parents have a stake in these properties.

                      Does anyone know how we can get our tution money back since his has definitely misrepresented himself!

                      Also, for those kids who have been tutored by a \"GEP expert\" and subsequently ended not in GEP, can the kids’ parents sue him?
                      Go read Mr Brown website on Gifted My Ass
                      http://www.mrbrown.com/blog/2012/07/gifted-my-ass.html
                      and check out on A lawyer's response on the Misrepresentation Act

                      The challenging question is how much you should be compensated. It depends on how much you have paid.
                      Probably better to seek expert legal advice.

                      At the end of the day, did he provide a teaching \"service\" or did he not?

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                        violin_lover
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                        It is important to check the tutor’s credentials. But I understand that most of the real 武林高手 prefers to guide kids on a part time basis as they have a day job 🙂

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