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    MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

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    • H Offline
      HAPPYH
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      dorisp:
      pirate:


      Speaking of priorities. Does anybody see anything potentially wrong if all the popular schools here will eventually only have SC students? Would that be a good environment in this current age?

      How about schools that eventually only have children of alumni?

      🆒

      What about only SC ALUMNI?

      What about SC ALUMNI - not enough, on top of that those parent(s) must be a SC when he/she was a student?

      Can keep going like this. No end.

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        HAPPYH
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        HAPPYH:
        dorisp:

        [quote=\"pirate\"]
        Speaking of priorities. Does anybody see anything potentially wrong if all the popular schools here will eventually only have SC students? Would that be a good environment in this current age?

        How about schools that eventually only have children of alumni?

        🆒

        What about only SC ALUMNI?

        What about SC ALUMNI - not enough, on top of that those parent(s) must be a SC when he/she was a student?

        Can keep going like this. No end.[/quote]Sorry, my previous post should be as follows:

        What about schools that eventually only have children of SC ALUMNI?

        What about schools that eventually only have children of not just SC ALUMNI - on top of that those parent(s) must be a SC when he/she was a student?

        Can keep going like this. No end

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          pirate
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          Absolutely. That is why I suggested earlier that MOE should cap P1 and P2A to 70% of total vacancy. I also suggested that P2B should be capped at 25% of the remaining places, compared to the 50% now.


          That doesn’t address the first issue I brought up though.

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          • A Offline
            ana_mum
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            Just happened to be reading this thread few days ago and would like to give my 2 cents worth…


            The current system is indeed giving much priority to alumni. I am not proposing to scrap away the registration phase for alumni but will definitely appreciate if the authorities do something to fine-tune the current Phase 2 category.

            (1)\tAgreed with parents who wanted their children to be in the school they have previously studied in, to share the same values and cultures. However, if parents think so highly about their alma mater, shouldn’t they joined the alumni association and active participate in the school activities even before their children enter the school? I can understand giving priority to alumni, especially those actively involved, but I truly don’t understand why should priority be given to those old boys and girls who refused to join the alumni association, not involved in any of the activities and not even in-touch with anything from their alma mater until their children need to register for P1. Then they’ll go for registration with their old report book or any documentations, which they have not touch for at least 2-3 decades, to prove they were previously from the school. Worse are those parents who only studied in the school for only 1-2 years, either transfer-in or out due to some reasons. IMHO, I think the authorities should do away with Phase 2A(2) and just have Phase 2A for alumni who actively involved in their alma mater.

            (2)\tPhase 2A(1) & 2A(2) are given unlimited seats for application from the balance after Phase 1. Then the balance after Phase 2A(2) will be evenly apportion to Phase 2B (50%) & Phase 2C (50%). That means applicants under Phase 2A(1) & 2A(2) who are staying >10km away from the school will be given the seat against those staying within 500m but not under this Phase. Would this be fair for those staying near and yet not within reach due to limited seats? Why can’t the balance vacancies after Phase 1 be equally apportion to Phase 2A, 2B & 2C and the balance from Phase 2A will then be evenly allocate to 2B & 2C? That will definitely increase the chances for those staying within 1km or 2km especially when most people will probably fall under Phase 2C.

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              limlim
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              keroppi:

              I was an alumni before joining the PSG. The schools my kids are attending do not accept PVs simply because there simply isn't a need to. The overwhelming support of parents means the school is never short-handed in any school activities. I guess that's because most parents these days know the importance of being involved in their kids' educational journey.
              I wanted to join the PSG. but all the activities are on weekdays which parents have to work and those who cannot afford to contribute during working hours are deprived of a chance to volunteer for PSG.

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                HAPPYH
                last edited by

                limlim:
                keroppi:


                I was an alumni before joining the PSG. The schools my kids are attending do not accept PVs simply because there simply isn't a need to. The overwhelming support of parents means the school is never short-handed in any school activities. I guess that's because most parents these days know the importance of being involved in their kids' educational journey.

                I wanted to join the PSG. but all the activities are on weekdays which parents have to work and those who cannot afford to contribute during working hours are deprived of a chance to volunteer for PSG.

                You can try helping out with calling or emailing the parents for certain events or if you are good in IT skills, u can volunteer to maintain the parent support group blog, etc... which u can do after hours from home.

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                  HAPPYH
                  last edited by

                  [quote=\"ana_mum\"]Just happened to be reading this thread few days ago and would like to give my 2 cents worth..


                  The current system is indeed giving much priority to alumni. I am not proposing to scrap away the registration phase for alumni but will definitely appreciate if the authorities do something to fine-tune the current Phase 2 category.

                  (1)\tAgreed with parents who wanted their children to be in the school they have previously studied in, to share the same values and cultures. However, if parents think so highly about their alma mater, shouldn’t they joined the alumni association and active participate in the school activities even before their children enter the school? I can understand giving priority to alumni, especially those actively involved, but I truly don’t understand why should priority be given to those old boys and girls who refused to join the alumni association, not involved in any of the activities and not even in-touch with anything from their alma mater until their children need to register for P1. Then they’ll go for registration with their old report book or any documentations, which they have not touch for at least 2-3 decades, to prove they were previously from the school. Worse are those parents who only studied in the school for only 1-2 years, either transfer-in or out due to some reasons. IMHO, I think the authorities should do away with Phase 2A(2) and just have Phase 2A for alumni who actively involved in their alma mater.

                  :goodpost:

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                    pirate
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                    They should join the alumni association before the child is born. 🦆

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                    • corneyAmberC Offline
                      corneyAmber
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                      Actually alumni is not only contribution by effort alone. When the school calls for donation, having alumni group can encourage more collection because it is compelling to want to support the school for self and child and easier for the school to appeal to the alumni group who has an identity with the school. Having said that, the generous new parents who contribute now will have their children contributing as alumni in future.

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                        pirate:
                        They should join the alumni association before the child is born. 🦆

                        An alumni is an alumni whether they join the association or not.

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