Opinions of the Primary School Registration System

[BeContented]

alng:

pirate:

MOE should create positions for cluster principals/HODs. Cluster Heads will oversee subject teaching and ensure consistent standards over every school in that cluster. Cluster principals will have to ensure consistency in resources and environment in every school in the cluster. It is just like the commercial world. One cannot expect to achieve consistent standards by leaving it to individual franchisees (ie. individual schools/principals/HODs) to set standards. There must be somebody external to set standards. If Head Office (ie. MOE) is unable to do this because there are too many franchisees, Head Office must appoint master franchisees.


All these things about priority for this, that or other group is but a symptom of the real problem, which is the inability of MOE to maintain a reasonable level of consistency in standards and environment across all primary schools. The problem will always be with us until and unless MOE solves the real underlying problem.

\"Every school is a good school\" is not good enough. Every school must be as good as the other. No child should be disadvantaged merely because the ping pong ball with his/her number on it did not drop out of the wire cage.

Schools are already in clusters and overseen by a cluster head from MOE. The school prinicpals in each cluster do meet regularly to share best practices. These best practices are also shared with all schools at the annual MOE Excel Fest. But how to enforce that every school will follow all the so-called best practices? If you are MOE, do you want to control the schools and the principals so much or just provide general guidelines and trust the school principals will do a good job?

The CEO of an organisation also cannot ensure that all the managers and managers of subsidiaries will run their departments exactly in the same manner as he wishes. Too much control also works against motivation.

As far as MOE is concerned, every school is a good school. I do not think MOE is wrong in saying that because the resources put in by MOE is the same for each primary school. However, schools have other resources from parents and alumni. It is the support from parents and alumni that make popular schools different from others. It is our perception as parents that all schools are not equally good. We are not wrong either.

Agree with what you mentioned. Parents & alumni do play a part & make a difference to these popular schools. Dun think it's possible for MOE to bridge that.

[alng]

BeContented:

Agree with what you mentioned. Parents & alumni do play a part & make a difference to these popular schools. Dun think it's possible MOE to bridge that.

That is why MOE is in such a dilemma. It is indeed not easy to get rid of the alumni phase. I do not think the alumni priority can be replaced completely by the distance priority. Putting a cap to phase 2A is already a big change to our P1 registration but that cap will not solve any problem. Just look at the SC priority that kicks off this year.

I find the alumni priority argument similar to Singaporeans vs PR/FT. Singaporeans have been saying that Singaporeans build Singapore and now have to share their fruit of their efforts with PR/FT and it is not fair to Singaporeans. Now, is it fair for alumni to share the fruit of their efforts (that build up the popular school) with those who have the money to buy the expensive property within 1 km of the popular school?

[limlim]

dorisp:

Just curious if anyone here been invited to MOE, either formally or informally, to share your opinion or feedbacks on the P1 registration system?

MOE no..

But from non MIW............. anyway, didn't go.. (forgot whether it is related to education system or just P1 reg....)

[limlim]

pirate:

All these things about priority for this, that or other group is but a symptom of the real problem, which is the inability of MOE to maintain a reasonable level of consistency in standards and environment across all primary schools. The problem will always be with us until and unless MOE solves the real underlying problem.

\"Every school is a good school\" is not good enough. Every school must be as good as the other. No child should be disadvantaged merely because the ping pong ball with his/her number on it did not drop out of the wire cage.

IMO, it will not solve the problem totally..

If there are parent sending their kid to tuition/enrichment even thou they score 90, these parent will not be satisfied with just a \"good\" school with all the facilities/teacher.. they probably only believe in branding..

But it may solve the problem partially..

Like those parents who send their kids to tuition bcoz \"teacher don't teach\" (isolate cases?), these parent would accept a \"good\" school that is not \"branded\".

[Imami]

limlim:

Imami:

Thanks dorisp. I so scare Kenna flamed and stoned.... For speaking my view.

kena flame so be it lor.. at least no one calls you cockroach.... juz bcoz the views differ..

:evil:

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

nobody calls anyone cockroach la! Some of us just describe you as having the strong fighting spirit....like erm.... xiao qiang.

[Imami]

limlim:

Imami:

But I feel that credits should be given to the PRs too. I have a friend who is a PR. She married a sg man and is staying with his family in sg. She can't convert to singaporean because of some family issue back in her Indonesian home. Something like if she convert, she cannot own any property in indonesia. As she is the only child, she would need to takeover the property when her parents pass on.

her citizenship is irrelevant.. the kid shd be SC rite?

oops. ya hor....

[Imami]

dorisp:

limlim:

[quote=\"Imami\"]Thanks dorisp. I so scare Kenna flamed and stoned.... For speaking my view.

kena flame so be it lor.. at least no one calls you cockroach.... juz bcoz the views differ..

:evil:

Chances are one might be termed \"sore eyes\" and \"vast interest\"......

Just joking.

IMHO, nothing else should matter if you are genuine and are in the discussion for the better of the topic or system.

We have to accept that opinions do differ and to agree to disagree wherever possible.

[/quote] :hi5: but perhaps you havent met The Porcupine....

[limlim]

alng:

That is why MOE is in such a dilemma. It is indeed not easy to get rid of the alumni phase. I do not think the alumni priority can be replaced completely by the distance priority. Putting a cap to phase 2A is already a big change to our P1 registration but that cap will not solve any problem. Just look at the SC priority that kicks off this year.

I find the alumni priority argument similar to Singaporeans vs PR/FT. Singaporeans have been saying that Singaporeans build Singapore and now have to share their fruit of their efforts with PR/FT and it is not fair to Singaporeans. Now, is it fair for alumni to share the fruit of their efforts (that build up the popular school) with those who have the money to buy the expensive property within 1 km of the popular school?

Wonder if putting a cap on P2A alone will open another can of worms..

If those active alumni within 1km got balloted out, wouldn't they make noise about that place taken by a sleeping alumni that lives 20km away?


Singapore is build by SC and early immigrants.. not funded/sponsored by united nation or what not. And the British abandon Singapore before, even thou they play a part in building it.

But school are build by taxpayers Money, and contributed by ALL Singaporeans. Why should alumni take all the credits and benefits?

hence, your argument of \"alumni vs public and SC vs FT\" is flawed.

[dorisp]

limlim:

dorisp:

Just curious if anyone here been invited to MOE, either formally or informally, to share your opinion or feedbacks on the P1 registration system?

MOE no..

But from non MIW............. anyway, didn't go.. (forgot whether it is related to education system or just P1 reg....)

OIC. Thanks.

:please:

[limlim]

Imami:

:hi5: but perhaps you havent met The Porcupine....

She met.. but never kena \"poked\"... :evil: :evil:

just kidding