From PSLE to University

[2ppaamm]

adhdadhd:

2ppaamm:

Having said all these, I hope all of us remember that it's the ordinary who do extraordinary things...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUT1ADtIHQU&feature=fvst

Hi 2ppaamm,
You are indeed, one of the gifted adult went undetected by gov.sg.
Wonder if you were born in SG?

Thanks for sharing the interesting approach out of the edu.gov.sg...

I have only DS1 in P5 now, and he seems to be struggling, our fear is if he don't make it to a good secondary schools.. key issue is his addictions in computer gaming, he kept finding ways (independently!) to play.. instead of studying. (realize he lacks playmates at home)
I wonder if you have any tricks to inspire kids not to be addicted to computer games? As I found his mild-ADHD is linked to residual memory in computer animations, and distracted his focus in studies, also social behaviors...

Er... not sure I'm gifted or not.. but sure am glad I am not detected!

This addiction to computers (or electronics) is indeed a very big problem, especially when teachers nowadays depend so much on technology as a tool. Children get 'steered' away from their tasks. How about installing a nanny to your computer? Forbid him from going to sites that you do not approve of, (like porn, gambling, youtube, facebook) depending on your tolerance.

Try that out. A p5 kid is still easy to manage and control, and it is our responsibility as parents to do so. How else can they know it is wrong. Agree?

[venuschan]

tired mom:

2ppaamm:

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Students who chose to go NUSH, would that improved their chances to be accepted into medicine faculty?

Hm... I don't have an aspiring doctor in my house. However, if I were to prepare a path for my child, I'd just go finish the HSD, then prepare to ace SATI and SATII, and then the MCAT. Instead of doing the impossible maths NUSH is doing - even though I'm a maths grad, I still think maths is a crazy subject. :roll: Then, I'll let him read about what great doctors do, and then attach him to one of my doctor-friend as an intern to see if that's the kind of life he wants. If he still likes to do medicine, then any uni that gives a recognized degree so that he can practise will do. After he has done his housemanship and 2 years' or so of practice, I will encourage him/her to study further and become a specialist. After another few years, I'd suggest he become a researcher and teach in the uni - to help better even more lives. That's what I'll do.... This is a fantastic life to have. Lots of recognition and money and holidays.

What do you think? Will this plan work?

plan sounds good especially like the part of attachment as an intern, to see that doctoring is not all glorious
but the researcher and teaching part ... must see interest lah...... clinical medicine is actually very fun and fulfilling.

Actually medicine in uni does not need superb maths or science. just some biology/ chemistry background is enough to pull one through
(though maths and physics are usually requirements as well)[/quote]
I really respect Singaporean parents, indeed. You all really dig deep to find answers for kids.....but let me also tell a real story to see the connection. I had this classmate, who did \"good\" his Pre-Uni exam in Malaysia.... he was definitely not the top, his results was 6 points closed to full marks, so he was not the best....to do medic in Malaysia, you must have perfect scores together with extra-curriculums.....so in his case, no way for him to do medic in Malaysia, chances were also slimmer for him to do dentistry for he is the 书呆子 with no extra-curriculums to show, cause here, our government only talks on quota and never talks on merits...so to solve his problem, his family then sent him out to Australia to study medicine and he then returned to offer his service to Singapore's General Hospital before further his specialist courses in UK...

So do you see my point here?...I personally think if a Malaysian can find ways to survive in Singapore then I see no reasons for Singaporeans to get worried in their homeland...girl's

[2ppaamm]

venuschan:

tired mom:

plan sounds good especially like the part of attachment as an intern, to see that doctoring is not all glorious
but the researcher and teaching part ... must see interest lah...... clinical medicine is actually very fun and fulfilling.

Actually medicine in uni does not need superb maths or science. just some biology/ chemistry background is enough to pull one through
(though maths and physics are usually requirements as well)

I really respect Singaporean parents, indeed. You all really dig deep to find answers for kids.....but let me also tell a real story to see the connection. I had this classmate, who did \"good\" his Pre-Uni exam in Malaysia.... he was definitely not the top, his results was 6 points closed to full marks, so he was not the best....to do medic in Malaysia, you must have perfect scores together with extra-curriculums.....so in his case, no way for him to do medic in Malaysia, chances were also slimmer for him to do dentistry for he is the 书呆子 with no extra-curriculums to show, cause here, our government only talks on quota and never talks on merits...so to solve his problem, his family then sent him out to Australia to study medicine and he then returned to offer his service to Singapore's General Hospital before further his specialist courses in UK...

So do you see my point here?...I personally think if a Malaysian can find ways to survive in Singapore then I see no reasons for Singaporeans to get worried in their homeland...girl's

Of course, there is no reasons for Singaporeans to worry! But not everyone has the money to send the kid to another country to get a medicine degree. It costs close to half a million with expenses. :moneyflies:

Can't speak for every Singaporean, but I am happy with my own circumstances, that my children have alternatives and opportunities, and happy that I chanced upon them. Now that my kids are well into uni, they realize how pointless some of the things we do in Singapore, and they still cannot understand why. But such is an education system. It is never perfect, but in Singapore, we tend to chase after more 'wind', with no purpose.

I hope that every parent can find some kind of opportunities for their children like I did, the wonderful feeling and knowledge of knowing you have done the right thing is simply wonderful!

[Mychildren]

Pam,

You sure have made a right choice!

[ruohoo97]

Bookmark this thread so can come back another day. Tks

[venuschan]

Blobbi:

phankao:

Well, the read v fast and flip to next page, is similar to \"right-brain\" training. It develops the child's photographic memory?


I also use that way, but with baby, only need to do a little each day (2mins to 5mins max each day). I didn't do with the other kids.

Oi, 9 mths, cannot be right brain training lah. Must be genes! This is my theory cos that, what's his name, Sakamoto or some Japanese flip method? That one. Start at birth right? But how come no one else can read at 9 mths?





I think  \"right brain education\" as advocated by Glenn Doman/Shichida actually works. ( I never send my girl to any of these enrichment classes, first,  too expensive even the school is a stone's away from my house, second, feel scared when I heard parents complaining the queue are long and third, I have  my own materials, my own ideas on what I want to teach.)

 But I must say I read their books, and ironically I only read books by Shichida when my daughter was 4. So  I read their books, I try their methods because I think I have nothing to lose but I certainly have everything to lose if I don't try. So I try.

Here, 2ppaamm  has written many good points in her posts on how to teach young child, I mean, young infant and/or toddler, and here I just want to reaffirm her points with my working on my child and its coincidence to right brain education.

(1) reading----in one of her posts, 2ppaamm said she \"read\" a lot to her kids...this way I believe it  works on infants.  In Shichida and GD, they both mention read and flash as many as possible to infants. I remember my gal was able to receive my instruction to crawl over to point me horizontal and/or vertical lines cards amongst many other approximately 30 cards lying on the floor in shy of a year old, ever since I knew she could do then I firmly believe it works.

(2) speed-reading-----2ppaamm has also mentioned reading very fast, reading a lot and never dumb down, I  did speed reading inadvertently day in and day out to her for 3 years in total since birth,  because I got no time as I was tied to my works all day long, so I could only find time by reading fast and many so as not to bore the child. I have strange reading interest...so I too read many nonsense to her..so my gal started reading Enid Blyton at 3, could recite periodic tables at 3, read timetables at 2  and able to answer 弟子规 at 1.5. 

One important fact here is she does all effortlessly. How could one believe a  3 year old child  could recall almost 500 English Idioms as well as the entire animals' collective nouns from A-Z from the one that I extracted entirely from my google search. It's never been easy to adults but it's just so so so easy to young child.  When I do my world flags cards to her, I have to step up my challenge to ask her to recall each and every colours appeared on the flags because by just reciting alone  names of the country and capital doesn't entice her anymore but  bored her. How could one believe a child could recite 60 US Flags with its state capitals with just few round of flashing ? and one would only believe  unless you have your own child showing you once......

Today she is an avid reader, she is very bold, never a timid girl and wild with ideas too.  I don't know if I have hot-housed her to become what she is today, I don't have books for her to read everyday,  she reads everything she likes, my \"only\" book for her to \"do\" this YEAR is math books \"Primary 3 My Pals Are Here\",  because she is homeschoold, so she has all her times,  I don't think we  can force young child to read books such as Chronicles of Narnia or Harry Potter or any abridged books by  W. Shakespeare or to read adult book like Atlas on Human Anatomy...I believe reading passion must have come out from her herself.

So Blobbi, it works. It works only with  parent's commitment.  Is she gifted? Yes, if I choose to believe what is written in the report. Does she carry my genes ? Think so.  Are we parents test gifted? Don't know. But I also read an article that states most uni-graduates have   IQ scores of around > 120. And to take general view of this, I'm not even gifted....

 




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[venuschan]

My apology, in general, most uni-grates have IQ scores of <120.

[2ppaamm]

venuschan:

My apology, in general, most uni-grates have IQ scores of <120.

For sure! Not everyone falls above the 90th percentile (IQ>120 using WISC IV or SB-V), and in Singapore, the government is certainly hoping more than 20% gets into the universities, and therefore your numbers cannot be more true! There will be people with high IQ, and lower in the universities. Having said that, in some countries some people prefer not to go to the university, preferring to go to vocational institutes.

University is only a pathway. Some choose it, others don't. To each his own, and everyone can be successful no matter what the choice is.

[2ppaamm]

venuschan:

Blobbi:

[quote=\"phankao\"]Well, the read v fast and flip to next page, is similar to \"right-brain\" training. It develops the child's photographic memory?


I also use that way, but with baby, only need to do a little each day (2mins to 5mins max each day). I didn't do with the other kids.

Oi, 9 mths, cannot be right brain training lah. Must be genes! This is my theory cos that, what's his name, Sakamoto or some Japanese flip method? That one. Start at birth right? But how come no one else can read at 9 mths?





I think  \"right brain education\" as advocated by Glenn Doman/Shichida actually works. ( I never send my girl to any of these enrichment classes, first,  too expensive even the school is a stone's away from my house, second, feel scared when I heard parents complaining the queue are long and third, I have  my own materials, my own ideas on what I want to teach.)

 But I must say I read their books, and ironically I only read books by Shichida when my daughter was 4. So  I read their books, I try their methods because I think I have nothing to lose but I certainly have everything to lose if I don't try. So I try.

Here, 2ppaamm  has written many good points in her posts on how to teach young child, I mean, young infant and/or toddler, and here I just want to reaffirm her points with my working on my child and its coincidence to right brain education.

(1) reading----in one of her posts, 2ppaamm said she \"read\" a lot to her kids...this way I believe it  works on infants.  In Shichida and GD, they both mention read and flash as many as possible to infants. I remember my gal was able to receive my instruction to crawl over to point me horizontal and/or vertical lines cards amongst many other approximately 30 cards lying on the floor in shy of a year old, ever since I knew she could do then I firmly believe it works.

(2) speed-reading-----2ppaamm has also mentioned reading very fast, reading a lot and never dumb down, I  did speed reading inadvertently day in and day out to her for 3 years in total since birth,  because I got no time as I was tied to my works all day long, so I could only find time by reading fast and many so as not to bore the child. I have strange reading interest...so I too read many nonsense to her..so my gal started reading Enid Blyton at 3, could recite periodic tables at 3, read timetables at 2  and able to answer 弟子规 at 1.5. 

One important fact here is she does all effortlessly. How could one believe a  3 year old child  could recall almost 500 English Idioms as well as the entire animals' collective nouns from A-Z from the one that I extracted entirely from my google search. It's never been easy to adults but it's just so so so easy to young child.  When I do my world flags cards to her, I have to step up my challenge to ask her to recall each and every colours appeared on the flags because by just reciting alone  names of the country and capital doesn't entice her anymore but  bored her. How could one believe a child could recite 60 US Flags with its state capitals with just few round of flashing ? and one would only believe  unless you have your own child showing you once......

Today she is an avid reader, she is very bold, never a timid girl and wild with ideas too.  I don't know if I have hot-housed her to become what she is today, I don't have books for her to read everyday,  she reads everything she likes, my \"only\" book for her to \"do\" this YEAR is math books \"Primary 3 My Pals Are Here\",  because she is homeschoold, so she has all her times,  I don't think we  can force young child to read books such as Chronicles of Narnia or Harry Potter or any abridged books by  W. Shakespeare or to read adult book like Atlas on Human Anatomy...I believe reading passion must have come out from her herself.

So Blobbi, it works. It works only with  parent's commitment.  Is she gifted? Yes, if I choose to believe what is written in the report. Does she carry my genes ? Think so.  Are we parents test gifted? Don't know. But I also read an article that states most uni-graduates have   IQ scores of around > 120. And to take general view of this, I'm not even gifted....

 




Sent from my iPad[/quote]Enjoyed reading your post! My take is that, everything works. EVERYTHING, as long as we put our time and effort in it, and show our kids that we are enthusiastic and believe in them.

The IQ or education level of a mum does not determine the success of any homeschool program, at least this is what research shows. I cannot vouch for it, because I have lots of resources. But I do know, that we are able to teach our children beyond what we know.

I'll give you an example. My young daughter is doing music as her major, and I am certainly no music major. But whenever she asked me something, I will search, read, find and discuss them with her. Of course I know nothing about music at university level, but I was able to teach her where to find resources, information and how to analyse them. As a result, I too learn music!

Homeschooled children will always fair better than school going ones, all things being equal. I am so glad I invested years helping my kids understand the love of learning, and the joy of education. Now, because you believe your child is gifted, she will be. I subscribe exactly the same philosophy and am so glad to have benefited from this.

[Gxmas]

Hello everyone! I am new to this forum and I am very encouraged by what some parents have done for their children. It is amazing! May I clarify my understanding… So if a child has done well in PSLE, he/she would be able to handle a high school diploma program without having to go through middle school? Thanks!