Is GEP really necessary?
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jtoh:
EESIS is awarded only to GEP students who continue their education in independent secondary schools. And for those who go to Independent Schools but choose not to opt for SBGE, they're not awarded EESIS either.PiggyLalala:
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I am sure we are all grateful when given some opportunities. If we were to assume IQ is distributed equally among people of all social status, then for every GEP child whose IQ is higher than their parents', there is also another 99 less capable children with IQ higher than their parents'. They would need that EEIS or scholarship for the rest of their education more than the GEPers who are financially well off.
I think the EEIS that are given to the GEPpers who do not do so well in the PSLE will not deprive the mainstream pupils from getting it.
EEIS is for the top one-third of pupils in PSLE and who are going to the independent schools. Hence, my interpretation, would be as long as pupils did well in PSLE and belong to the top one-third, he qualifies for the EEIS. So the EEIS that was given to the GEppers who did not do so well, will not deprive another top students from getting it. Furthermore, it is not an entitlement to all Geppers who did not do well. The GE branch will also look into the child performance and attitude/behaviour in their 3 GE years.
The above is only my interpretation, please correct me if I am wrong.
GEP students who get into independent schools via DSA and subsequently do not meet that school's COP are not that many. Top schools are very discerning in who they give DSA COs to. The 80% minimum score for P5 and P6 results already cuts off the weaker students. (Note: weaker compared to the whole GEP cohort. But the majority of these students do score at least 250 in PSLE).[/quote]Thanks for the clarification. You have the facts nicely written. -
2ppaamm:
Wait... a bit confused now. I recall some kids who are in independent schools who score well within the 1/3 (about 235) but still have to pay the $200-$300 school fees, then those who score above about 265 don't have to pay any. Which are we talking about now?
The EESIS are awarded up to the top one-third of the total number of Secondary One pupils admitted to all Independent Schools (IS), based on their PSLE results. NOT top 1/3 of the PSLE cohort. Refer to Jtoh's post. Sorry if my earlier post had caused confusion. I hope I got it right this time. -
PiggyLalala:
Ah... I get where the confusion is now.2ppaamm:
Wait... a bit confused now. I recall some kids who are in independent schools who score well within the 1/3 (about 235) but still have to pay the $200-$300 school fees, then those who score above about 265 don't have to pay any. Which are we talking about now?
The EESIS are awarded up to the top one-third of the total number of Secondary One pupils admitted to all Independent Schools (IS), based on their PSLE results. NOT top 1/3 of the PSLE cohort. Refer to Jtoh's post. Sorry if my earlier post had caused confusion. I hope I got it right this time. -
Thanks for the correction about the 1/3 of total independent schools instead of IP schools. Having said that, I heard that IP schools (are there < 10 IP schools? how many IS schools now and is Hwa Chong International school considered one?) are the ultimate targets for most parents and everyone tried their best to get in. also, I heard that it is abt 3% of the PLSE population which is translated to about >260 t-scorer can only get the EESIS. I know My friend’s dd who got 260 but still wasn’t awarded this EESIS. I heard that average t-score for GEPper (among abt 500 GEPpers) is <260 (in the range of 25+). Anyone can throw more lights on this? My question is why deprive those pupils from getting EESIS who have t-score in the range of better than 255 (someone told it it abt 255) for average GEPpers to 26O? Also, why there are more priority given to GEPper than mainstream in IP schools (NOT IS). If score 260 (albeit top 3% scorer), you may not be able to get into some of the good schools like RGS, NYG and RI and HCI. If you don’t think they are deprived, then I don’t know what you call this?
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Mychildren:
Sounds like my DS4, in other day, I asked him in frustration, \" Can you survive in Singapore educational system (same question hor), all my other kids gave the answer \"No!\" while he replied \"Yes\" !he cannot sit long to do his schoolwork. He cannot be drill but when comes to playthings, he can work for long hours......
Think this boy I need to think of alternative routes for him. Don't think he can survive under the Singapore educational system.... :sick:
Got to leave it to God at this moment. Gotta sleep :snooze:
Sometimes, I am at lost what to do with him, leave to God lah, hoping that one day he will mature. -
ruohoo97,
Ok. I understand what you said. Will continue to pray for him and pray together with him.
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2ppaamm:
Needless to say, I have to agree that educated home makers are the most important resources in our society, and I am not exaggerating. I say this not to downplay the importance of working mothers, nor non-educated mothers. But as a mother and considerably highly educated, I think I added more value to my family, my husband, my children and ultimately to the society much more than if I were uneducated.slmkhoo:
[quote=\"Mychildren\"]To me, all my certificates are useless now as I'm now a homemaker.
I really hope you aren't serious when you say that! I am one of those highly-educated homemakers that people probably think 'wasted' her education. I have been a SAHM for the past 15 yrs. I would almost certainly have tried to return to the workforce, at least part-time, if we had lived in Singapore, but with constant moves overseas and having to help kids adjust, monitor schoolwork, homeschool etc, it's not been possible to do more than the occasional small freelance job. Still, I like to think that I add value to my kids' home environment and overall education, and the things I studied do help. I know they appreciate my being at home for them (although they grumble too). And you may want to re-enter the workforce eventually. I do, when we finally return to Singapore next year.
I admire traveling spouses, there are so many sacrifices to make, so many things to juggle with, and so many things to deal with - the children's education as they move from place to place (I know because I have to deal with this frequently as well), keeping the family together, helping everyone get used to the new culture etc. All these are so important. Hey, even doing groceries is a challenge!
We have downplayed the role of SAHM in the name of advancement, I think to a sad outcome. Many women equate their worth to the pay check, but you know, pay check comes in different forms. It can come in the form of a scholarship, kids who need less tuition (because mother is more educated), and kids who are out of trouble (because mum is always there for them, kids who will be successful in the working world with successful careers and husbands who have better increments because family is taken care of.
I am not a SAHM, but I dare say I spend more time than many moms with my kids and do much more with them and for them. I have never felt any of my education has been wasted because I did not maximize my earning potential. The intangibles derived from the sacrifice is so worth it. The country will not function as well without these educated and super smart moms who choose to stay at home and become role models. We need them more than ever! :grphug: :celebrate:[/quote]I know I am important to my children. At least they don't need to go for tuition yet as a tutor is already at home and don't need to be put in the student care.
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Nebbermind:
Understand. :salute:
U only feel him cant survive coz u placed a time limit on him. Our system is unforgiving to late developers but we need not be that way.Mychildren:
Maybe asking why I'm still awake. My 2nd DS still busy folding different kinds of aeroplanes. He's not as good as his eldest brother in studies because he cannot sit long to do his schoolwork. He cannot be drill but when comes to playthings, he can work for long hours......
Think this boy I need to think of alternative routes for him. Don't think he can survive under the Singapore educational system.... :sick:
Got to leave it to God at this moment. Gotta sleep :snooze: -
2ppaamm:
In Singapore context, the govt has yet to realize the value of a SAHM. Far too many kids are left with the care of maid. I see this as greatest tragic for the kids. The current situation of enticing more mothers back to workforce, while at the same time without enough supporting system has caused a great stress to families.
We have downplayed the role of SAHM in the name of advancement, I think to a sad outcome. Many women equate their worth to the pay check, but you know, pay check comes in different forms. It can come in the form of a scholarship, kids who need less tuition (because mother is more educated), and kids who are out of trouble (because mum is always there for them, kids who will be successful in the working world with successful careers and husbands who have better increments because family is taken care of.
The country will not function as well without these educated and super smart moms who choose to stay at home and become role models. We need them more than ever! :grphug: :celebrate:
I am a SAHM. I often feel myself not a good mother to my five kids. I try hard, but my kids may not appreciate. There are times I am wondering whether they will be better off without me being so Kias :scratchhead: u?
There are schools to prepare a man to become doctors, lawyers or engineers, I wish there be schools to prepare us to be mothers, :idea: -
ruohoo97:
wow! another mother of 5! :salute: :salute:
In Singapore context, the govt has yet to realize the value of a SAHM. Far too many kids are left with the care of maid. I see this as greatest tragic for the kids. The current situation of enticing more mothers back to workforce, while at the same time without enough supporting system has caused a great stress to families.2ppaamm:
We have downplayed the role of SAHM in the name of advancement, I think to a sad outcome. Many women equate their worth to the pay check, but you know, pay check comes in different forms. It can come in the form of a scholarship, kids who need less tuition (because mother is more educated), and kids who are out of trouble (because mum is always there for them, kids who will be successful in the working world with successful careers and husbands who have better increments because family is taken care of.
The country will not function as well without these educated and super smart moms who choose to stay at home and become role models. We need them more than ever! :grphug: :celebrate:
I am a SAHM. I often feel myself not a good mother to my five kids. I try hard, but my kids may not appreciate. There are times I am wondering whether they will be better off without me being so Kias :scratchhead: u?
There are schools to prepare a man to become doctors, lawyers or engineers, I wish there be schools to prepare us to be mothers, :idea:
By the time you are done with your kids, you are ready to be the school for motherhood for your children. Personally, I feel that my mother was my best school for motherhood. This informal school is the best, consultation is free too... Now maybe ksp.com is an alternative...kekeke
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