Is GEP really necessary?
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2ppaamm:
Surely, tck understands it better.Nebbermind:
Sitting back and waiting for a response to tck!
Me too! Because I am not one of the crabs, I wouldn't care to comment. Honestly, it is because I can't even get across the first paragraph, too.
But I am enjoying the view after your transformation! :evil: -
But honestly, when 3Boys is on the same side on an issue, it is absolutely fun because he will fight for it! This is just one topic/issue, if the opinions are different than different lor, no big deal to me. Nobody needs to agree with me on everything. I am not omniscience, and never will be. If people are confused, go read the first post of this thread. I think along the way, many people are starting to get confused what I believe.
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Chenonceau:
Hmmmm.....2ppaamm has been fairly provocative in this thread you know.
It's ok PamPam... 3boys disagrees whenever he can. It's him. Not you. :rotflmao: :siam:2ppaamm:
Guess what? The feelings is mutual, but who cares! I don't need to please you, and you don't need to please me.
But you are right, I am annoying and I am annoyed with myself as well. I said I don't want to post but can't resist. :slapshead: When you are annoyed, do like I do. Don't read. And I seriously don't read past the first paragraph if I sense it is not what I want to read, just like you. :celebrate:
I usually only post when I disagree, so most of my posts are disagreeable.....
If I agree with someone, you won't see me around unless I felt it needed emphasising. Unlike ladies (thin ice here), I'm not a fan of mutual support societies.
Be careful of drawing a conclusion from a biased sample.....is 3Boys disagreeable, or does 3Boys only post when he is disagreeable. -
2ppaamm:
Did u come back to check if my leaf is still there?! :evil:
Guess what? The feelings is mutual, but who cares! I don't need to please you, and you don't need to please me.
But you are right, I am annoying and I am annoyed with myself as well. I said I don't want to post but can't resist. :slapshead: When you are annoyed, do like I do. Don't read. And I seriously don't read past the first paragraph if I sense it is not what I want to read, just like you. :celebrate: -
2ppaamm:
O, this is getting tiring and I won't have the stamina to go all the way to 200 pages. I think I will give it a miss, whatever is coming... I am not going to participate. Better say now earlier than later or I keep getting dragged back, better get some housework done instead. Adios my friends. I'm on my way, hate being a broken record. If you want my attention on anything, feel free to PM.
:love: Take a break and have a good rest. It is pointless but enlightening
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buds:
:politebleah: Oh well... there goes GEP. :rotflmao:Nebbermind:
[quote=\"buds\"]Is this a GEP question?
Not really....
It's a GEP selection test question!! :razz:
If I say I know Aaron has nipples can go thru? :please:[/quote]Only if it oozes milk... -
Nebbermind:
No, I know it will be there. Just waiting to see if the worms have started eating it up to form holes. Sometimes, it is better to :peekaboo:
Did u come back to check if my leaf is still there?! :evil:2ppaamm:
Guess what? The feelings is mutual, but who cares! I don't need to please you, and you don't need to please me.
But you are right, I am annoying and I am annoyed with myself as well. I said I don't want to post but can't resist. :slapshead: When you are annoyed, do like I do. Don't read. And I seriously don't read past the first paragraph if I sense it is not what I want to read, just like you. :celebrate: -
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atutor2001:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:I have said in my last posting that that would be my last post for this thread. I do not keep to my words - bad. Can't help it after reading such interesting stuff and was wondering how the opposite camp will react. So created this opposite view just for fun.
What I am posting below do not represent my views. It is purely an article for a good laugh. Those who cannot take jokes please do not read.
Just for Laugh.
It reminded of the Hermit Crab Syndrome after reading this thread.
From Wacki: http://en.wackipedia.org/waki/HermitCrab_mentality
HermitCrab mentality, sometimes referred to as crab in a shell, is a way of thinking best described by the phrase \"if I have managed to get it, donβt you take it from me.\" The metaphor refers to a crab removing slow moving snails from their shells and occupied it. When the snail demands for the return of the shell, the crab would resist at all cost.[1][2] The analogy in human behavior is that of a group that will attempt to \"glorify themselves to be perceived to be deserving\" (negate or diminish the importance of slower member who seek for equality), out of selfishness,[3] conspiracy or competitive feelings.
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I think we can all agree that Singapore mainstream schooling isn't ideal, large class size, (arguably) worse teachers, one-size-fits-all curriculum etc. The government has seen it fit to bestow upon a small group of students an enriched curriculum coupled with significantly smaller class size so that they can better contribute to society in future as tax payerβs money is used to fund their enrichment programme. I think we all agree that every student (not just GEP kids) will benefit from a differentiated (not necessarily enriched) curriculum and small class sizes.
However, the vitriol seen in this thread smacks of howlianness and conceitedness, sadly sometimes hearsay, misinformation and personal prejudices (from wonderful feeling of being recognized as GE kidsβ papa and mama). Instead of calling for these \"benefits\" to be retained for this 1%, the discussion should instead be to fight for all kids to have, for example, small class sizes. Just because some think small class sizes are deserving for GEP, is it right then to use tax payersβ money on GEP and call for them to continue with these \"privileges\" without any sign of concrete returns after all these years that can be documented statistically?
Some forumers here keep harping on the fact that GEP kids are really gifted, then so be it. Keep the name of GEP, all benefits remain intact, but do be prepared to fully pay for the extras at commercial rate, will the calls for continuation remain? I'm afraid the hermit crab mentality will still be there, whatever you call the rose.
Another topic that keeps coming up is that GEP kids are trained and hot-housed and so aren't really gifted. Again, giftedness is wide-ranging. For a few forumers here with PG kids, only PG is considered gifted. To them, only PG kids require intervention. How many PG/EG kids can there be in Singapore each year? Be realistic. Stop preserving a programme where there is not enough suitable candidates, just cos your kids mistakenly managed to get in. Again, no Hermit Crab Mentality, just cos you get fit in, suddenly, they are geniuses and inventors for the economy of Singapore. Many kids have and are suffering from GEP, as some parents have attested by pulling them out of the programme.
I believe GEP has cast the net wider in recent years and now offer more places than before, perhaps to take into account the possibility of kids having been trained/hothoused (instead of 1%, it's now 1.5%? I may be wrong). So more kids are getting into the programme and this wider net also minimizes the chance of missing out a truly gifted child. And honestly, seriously, how many percent of the 500 GEP kids each year do detractors truly think are truly gifted? Do not paint the entire group with the same brush, as if every single one of these kids is gifted.
Asking for abolishment of DSA for GEPers is definitely a step forward. It is precisely because PSLE had its flaws (requires kids to be good in all subjects and to be academically strong) that DSA was conceived. Now kids can go to their preferred schools via sports, arts, language, math etc. officially instead of through backdoors in the past. And there are even specialised schools for kids who weren't identified earlier. Every kid has a chance at DSA so why should additional privilege be given to GEPers. If a child doesn't have a niche that schools are looking for, then voila, there's still the PSLE route. Calls for continuation of DSA for GEPers is just the type of protectionist Hermit Crab Mentality of those who want more than their fair share. It's not that they think their kids will not get into the preferred schools through PSLE, it's just that they have no confidence to fight it out with other kids to get in through PSLE. Sad.
There is a worse scenario you know. Imagine if at its conception, it was decided that GEP kids remain with their mainstream class but attend extra lessons at their own cost. And it's additional work load for all these kids. These kids do not just take PSLE but all normal exams plus separate GEP exams to remain in the programme. Would you guys prefer that? As it is now, GEP kids are taught in separate smaller classes. And most gets DSA. GEP kids who got confirmation of their DSA take PSLE for fun as they receive their results by Sep. So please lah, can stop with the Hermit Crab Mentality? Discuss as much as possible on how to make Singapore education better for ALL, but stop trying to glorify this 1%.
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Chenonceau:
Woah! Why am I quoted? I hardly posted here! I know too little about today's GEP to make intelligent comment. The ONLY points I wrote in here were...
(1) We should not quibble about GEP's privileges.![](\"http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/y/yes-1292.gif\")
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(2) We should extend small classes to mainstream (... and give mainstream teachers better quality written resources)
(3) We should do something to ensure that the Us VS Them attitude doesn't get worse
(4) We should NOT do away with the GEP.
But man! I feel so lucky I logged on here just in time to ogle Nebbermind. -
3Boys:
Hmmmm.....2ppaamm has been fairly provocative in this thread you know.
It's ok PamPam... 3boys disagrees whenever he can. It's him. Not you. :rotflmao: :siam:Chenonceau:
[quote=\"2ppaamm\"]
Guess what? The feelings is mutual, but who cares! I don't need to please you, and you don't need to please me.
But you are right, I am annoying and I am annoyed with myself as well. I said I don't want to post but can't resist. :slapshead: When you are annoyed, do like I do. Don't read. And I seriously don't read past the first paragraph if I sense it is not what I want to read, just like you. :celebrate:
I usually only post when I disagree, so most of my posts are disagreeable.....
If I agree with someone, you won't see me around unless I felt it needed emphasising. Unlike ladies (thin ice here), I'm not a fan of mutual support societies.
Be careful of drawing a conclusion from a biased sample.....is 3Boys disagreeable, or does 3Boys only post when he is disagreeable.[/quote]Aiyoh! :slapshead: no lah... I didn't do such things!![](\"http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/bro/lowres/bron1282l.jpg\")
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