Is GEP really necessary?

[Melodies]

Does anyone has info abt the backgrounds of geppers? I have observed some interesting phenomenon such as the wise oldman has many gepper grandchildren, TT's grandson, tsl's son n many other ministers' sons r geppers!! For a while, I thought the intake must b huge such that the r many many people around me have geppers kids. :yikes: Then, I realized that these r the people who r highly educated with phd or has previously excelled in academics or r rich or come from very well to do families.....hmmmm. Of cource, I can't make any conclusion for sure but just wondering.....

[2ppaamm]

Melodies:

Does anyone has info abt the backgrounds of geppers? I have observed some interesting phenomenon such as the wise oldman has many gepper grandchildren, TT's grandson, tsl's son n many other ministers' sons r geppers!! For a while, I thought the intake must b huge such that the r many many people around me have geppers kids. :yikes: Then, I realized that these r the people who r highly educated with phd or has previously excelled in academics or r rich or come from very well to do families.....hmmmm. Of cource, I can't make any conclusion for sure but just wondering.....

This is what we were told at the GEP briefing:
\"Siblings fall within 5% of intelligence, and parents 10%\"

The Old Man believes that too, I remember more than 30 years ago, as a young undergrad, we signed a petition for him to retract the statement because in those days, most of us were from poor families. I agree to this to some extent, but not totally. There is a nurture aspect that was totally left out. With diligence and resources, we can make up for the nature. Plus, with that definition, it will mean that most GEPpers going forward will have GEPpers parents, but that will not be the case. Genes has a part to play, I believe, but definitely not entirely. Parenting and opportunities plays a huge, huge part as well.

Here's a research for you: http://www.gifteddevelopment.com/What_is_Gifted/learned.htm

Note the comment about IQ being asynchronous.

[friendship]

Some ministers’ sons are GEPers har?


Don’t grow up like Drug boss, Fire boss, Justin Lee, LTA, PeiChun ex-principal, etc.

2011, 2016, 2021, 2016 (perhaps) some of them will run for General Election. Don’t land yourself like Aljunied GRC.

[3Boys]

The education ministry already gets almost as much funding as defence, and more than any other ministry (except defence) by a mile. Finland all that great? How sustainable do you think their model will be? Has their education system translated into a competitive advantage. Would love to see any data on that.


People forget there is an opportunity cost to everything, a dollar more for education is a dollar less for healthcare, or community development, or transport, all already receiving significantly less money than schools.

[Nebbermind]

2ppaamm:

This is what we were told at the GEP briefing:
\"Siblings fall within 5% of intelligence, and parents 10%\"

The Old Man believes that too, I remember more than 30 years ago, as a young undergrad, we signed a petition for him to retract the statement because in those days, most of us were from poor families. I agree to this to some extent, but not totally. There is a nurture aspect that was totally left out. With diligence and resources, we can make up for the nature. Plus, with that definition, it will mean that most GEPpers going forward will have GEPpers parents, but that will not be the case. Genes has a part to play, I believe, but definitely not entirely. Parenting and opportunities plays a huge, huge part as well.

Here's a research for you: http://www.gifteddevelopment.com/What_is_Gifted/learned.htm

Note the comment about IQ being asynchronous.

That's why some pri schools continue to perform well generations after generations...a mix of good genes, good home support, rich school heritage which allows them to see beyond themselves, ample peer pressure....etc

[Puzz.06109.06109.06109zzle]

Hi My dd just had her GEP test yesterday. Any one know how soon the result will be out? 2nd round will be on 16th oct. Who marks the papers?

[Dnls_mum]

Nebbermind:

That's why some pri schools continue to perform well generations after generations...a mix of good genes, good home support, rich school heritage which allows them to see beyond themselves, ample peer pressure....etc

I think so too.

[2ppaamm]

Nebbermind:

That's why some pri schools continue to perform well generations after generations...a mix of good genes, good home support, rich school heritage which allows them to see beyond themselves, ample peer pressure....etc

Exactly, the world is unfair isn't it? That's why they have a long, long queue as well. Don't even need to offer 40 hours of service, they don't accept!

Sometimes, I think the rich will only get richer and the poor will always get poorer... unless...

[Dnls_mum]

Puzz...zzle:

Hi My dd just had her GEP test yesterday. Any one know how soon the result will be out? 2nd round will be on 16th oct. Who marks the papers?

I think this is wrong thread to ask. There is prob another thread somewhere discussing this.

[2ppaamm]

3Boys:

The education ministry already gets almost as much funding as defence, and more than any other ministry (except defence) by a mile. Finland all that great? How sustainable do you think their model will be? Has their education system translated into a competitive advantage. Would love to see any data on that.


People forget there is an opportunity cost to everything, a dollar more for education is a dollar less for healthcare, or community development, or transport, all already receiving significantly less money than schools.

Or a dollar less for casino :siam: and groom teachers instead of ... what do they call them in casinos?

and our workforce has one of the lowest productivity among the first world countries.

So you think it is not ok to have good teachers? What's your view? :?