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      HAPPYH
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      optimistforum:
      Hi


      I thought that I would share the details of a US A book on Proportional Reasoning Maths, and it is pitched at P6 to P8. It should be a fantastic grounding for the GEP Maths problems.

      The link is below, and it has some pdf’s, one of which includes a sample question. I have bought it and I thoroughly recommend it. It is probably better than Terry Chew’s Maths Olympiad Books.
      http://store.mathsolutions.com/product-info.php?Its-All-Connected-pid221.html

      Regards
      Optimistforum
      Thank you for highlighting this book. Appreciate it

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        Super Alice
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        optimistforum:
        Hi


        I thought that I would share the details of a US A book on Proportional Reasoning Maths, and it is pitched at P6 to P8. It should be a fantastic grounding for the GEP Maths problems.

        The link is below, and it has some pdf’s, one of which includes a sample question. I have bought it and I thoroughly recommend it. It is probably better than Terry Chew’s Maths Olympiad Books.
        http://store.mathsolutions.com/product-info.php?Its-All-Connected-pid221.html

        Regards
        Optimistforum
        Thanks. So this book is more suitable for P6. And it can only be purchase online. Am I right? I am curious whether there is any detail solution given for the questions.

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          optimistforum
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          Super Alice:
          optimistforum:

          Hi


          I thought that I would share the details of a US A book on Proportional Reasoning Maths, and it is pitched at P6 to P8. It should be a fantastic grounding for the GEP Maths problems.

          The link is below, and it has some pdf’s, one of which includes a sample question. I have bought it and I thoroughly recommend it. It is probably better than Terry Chew’s Maths Olympiad Books.
          http://store.mathsolutions.com/product-info.php?Its-All-Connected-pid221.html

          Regards
          Optimistforum

          Thanks. So this book is more suitable for P6. And it can only be purchase online. Am I right? I am curious whether there is any detail solution given for the questions.

          Hi SuperAlice

          Yes. It does come with solutions. If you click on the link it has a PDF question along with a fully worked solution. It cost me £20 GBP, about $50 SD.

          USA school grades and Singaporean ones are the same. Sing P6, USA Grade 6, Sing S1, USA Grade 7, etc.

          I bought the book from Amazon UK; so I guess you can buy from Amazon.com or Amazon Singapore.

          What with Singaporean books, GAT books from Australia, FCE MCQ Comprehension and this Maths books, I do not need tutors as I have stretching books with model answers.

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            TheBluePapa
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            I have to caution though the total reliance on books and model answers.

            Model answers and stretching questions can bring you part of the way. Tutors who are gifted in teaching or for that matter elite tuition centers do not publish books that sell their expertise. It will open up their trade secrets to their competitors for just the price of a book. No one does that, at least not in Singapore. Whatever has been published in Singapore, is just a rehash of something old. The real ground breaking stuff is kept behind the closed doors of elite tuition centers.

            The Olympic coaches do not share their secret training techniques by publishing their domain knowledge. The master chef do no make known their secret recipes. Likewise with the elite tutors.

            If you want to train with the best, you just have to pay the price and it is not the price of a book.
            There are a lot of things that a book cannot accomplish, ie. the thought processes that leads to the solution. The model answers captures the final snapshot of the solution. The road to the solution is more important than the solution itself.

            However, if the parent is also involved as the trainer, and is able to master the subject, then books will go someway to bring the student to his potential. However, the parent will not be as accomplished as the elite tutor.

            Do you want your child to study chess under a Grandmaster, or someone who has been playing for the past 10 years ? Do you want your child to study under a renown concert pianist or someone with a Grade 8 certificate ?

            I believe a gifted child can learn from books, but there will always be something that can be learned from someone just as gifted but 30 years your senior.

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              optimistforum
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              TheBluePapa:
              I have to caution though the total reliance on books and model answers.

              Model answers and stretching questions can bring you part of the way. Tutors who are gifted in teaching or for that matter elite tuition centers do not publish books that sell their expertise. It will open up their trade secrets to their competitors for just the price of a book. No one does that, at least not in Singapore. Whatever has been published in Singapore, is just a rehash of something old. The real ground breaking stuff is kept behind the closed doors of elite tuition centers.

              The Olympic coaches do not share their secret training techniques by publishing their domain knowledge. The master chef do no make known their secret recipes. Likewise with the elite tutors.

              If you want to train with the best, you just have to pay the price and it is not the price of a book.
              There are a lot of things that a book cannot accomplish, ie. the thought processes that leads to the solution. The model answers captures the final snapshot of the solution. The road to the solution is more important than the solution itself.

              However, if the parent is also involved as the trainer, and is able to master the subject, then books will go someway to bring the student to his potential. However, the parent will not be as accomplished as the elite tutor.

              Do you want your child to study chess under a Grandmaster, or someone who has been playing for the past 10 years ? Do you want your child to study under a renown concert pianist or someone with a Grade 8 certificate ?

              I believe a gifted child can learn from books, but there will always be something that can be learned from someone just as gifted but 30 years your senior.
              Hi TheBluePapa

              I agree; to a certain point. I have amassed books from India, Singapore, USA, Australia and off course the best (but difficult to find) books from 1950s England.

              I am presently using two tutors (one I have done two sessions with,a nd one yet to start in two weeks). I have better materials than them, and my children are a couple of years ahead, so I must be doing something right.

              I agree that tutors do have that little bit extra, an \"X Factor\", if you will. However, I find it difficult to abdicate my educational responsibilities to anyone, hence why tutors and teachers see me as one big monumental pain in the ass. However, assessment books with answers have helped me considerably!

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                TheBluePapa
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                optimistforum:
                TheBluePapa:

                I have to caution though the total reliance on books and model answers.

                Model answers and stretching questions can bring you part of the way. Tutors who are gifted in teaching or for that matter elite tuition centers do not publish books that sell their expertise. It will open up their trade secrets to their competitors for just the price of a book. No one does that, at least not in Singapore. Whatever has been published in Singapore, is just a rehash of something old. The real ground breaking stuff is kept behind the closed doors of elite tuition centers.

                The Olympic coaches do not share their secret training techniques by publishing their domain knowledge. The master chef do no make known their secret recipes. Likewise with the elite tutors.

                If you want to train with the best, you just have to pay the price and it is not the price of a book.
                There are a lot of things that a book cannot accomplish, ie. the thought processes that leads to the solution. The model answers captures the final snapshot of the solution. The road to the solution is more important than the solution itself.

                However, if the parent is also involved as the trainer, and is able to master the subject, then books will go someway to bring the student to his potential. However, the parent will not be as accomplished as the elite tutor.

                Do you want your child to study chess under a Grandmaster, or someone who has been playing for the past 10 years ? Do you want your child to study under a renown concert pianist or someone with a Grade 8 certificate ?

                I believe a gifted child can learn from books, but there will always be something that can be learned from someone just as gifted but 30 years your senior.

                Hi TheBluePapa

                I agree; to a certain point. I have amassed books from India, Singapore, USA, Australia and off course the best (but difficult to find) books from 1950s England.

                I am presently using two tutors (one I have done two sessions with,a nd one yet to start in two weeks). I have better materials than them, and my children are a couple of years ahead, so I must be doing something right.

                I agree that tutors do have that little bit extra, an \"X Factor\", if you will. However, I find it difficult to abdicate my educational responsibilities to anyone, hence why tutors and teachers see me as one big monumental pain in the ass. However, assessment books with answers have helped me considerably!

                Don't get me wrong, I always consider parents who are actively involved in their children's education to be a good thing. A tutor comes in once a week, at most twice for a week for an hour to one a half hour session. A parent is with the child 24 x 7, so the parent's involvement is fundamental to the child's success. All I'm saying is that with a good tutor, there is a possibility that you can push your child to be even further than where he is now.
                A great tutor and an involved parent makes a great team.

                Having said that, a great tutor is hard to find. Most tutors are of the type that just uses assessment books off the shelf, they don't even recommend a book for you. I find that tuition agencies, especially the larger ones, have the necessary financial resources to produce quality resources.

                As an involved parent, you are in a much better position to assess the potential of the tutor, than say, a parent who has little knowledge of the subjects. You are also in a better position to judge if the tutor's teaching style is suitable for your child.

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                  optimistforum
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                  Hi TheBluePapa


                  My issue with the tutors are that they use standard books which will not help my children; futhermore my DC will do the tutor’s homework thus diminshing the time they spend on my homework. I am very much the sharp-elbowed pushy-parent. In fact when my kids start their new school year next week, I will noi doubt get on to a bad footing with the new teacher as I will insist on my DS having no school homework - he only completes work I give him!

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                    optimistforum
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                    optimistforum:
                    Hi


                    I thought that I would share the details of a US A book on Proportional Reasoning Maths, and it is pitched at P6 to P8. It should be a fantastic grounding for the GEP Maths problems.

                    The link is below, and it has some pdf’s, one of which includes a sample question. I have bought it and I thoroughly recommend it. It is probably better than Terry Chew’s Maths Olympiad Books.
                    http://store.mathsolutions.com/product-info.php?Its-All-Connected-pid221.html

                    Regards
                    Optimistforum
                    I received my copy today. It is quite comprehensive but the exercises do tend to test higher order abstract mathematics. I wholeheartedly recommend this to those who seek IQ Maths books.

                    Regards
                    O

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                      [quote=\"optimistforum\"]Hi


                      I thought that I would share the details of a US A book on Proportional Reasoning Maths, and it is pitched at P6 to P8. It should be a fantastic grounding for the GEP Maths problems.

                      The link is below, and it has some pdf’s, one of which includes a sample question. I have bought it and I thoroughly recommend it. It is probably better than Terry Chew’s Maths Olympiad Books.
                      http://store.mathsolutions.com/product-info.php?Its-All-Connected-pid221.html

                      Regards
                      Optimistforum[/quote

                      Wish to check if you have any good reasoning book to teach young child the best concept in terms of divisional fractions/multiplication fractions....the reason of the approach, dont know if the book you recommend covers such...I find this topic is hard for young child to comprehend....

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                        optimistforum
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                        Hi venushan


                        Yes it does, but what you want is well covered in teh EPH Step by Step Maths Series (P3 or P4, I guess)… The Proportional Reasoning book teaches equavalent fractions to in an interesting way, and has different grades fo questions for different abilities of students.

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