DSA 2012

[ruohoo97]

MMM:

ruohoo97:

If your child is from GEP, then overall score is matter.(some >80%; some >75%). If your child is from mainstream , it doesn't really matter, there is no fixed score required for DSA, but the position of child in whole school cohort is more important.

This is actually getting more complicated I was just wondering if it is due to lack of transparency in this area or because DSA is mainly dominated by GEP students. :?

As mentioned by myself and another forumner, we do observed fixed score requirement for some schools. Eg. DHS, TKGS to name a few.

My kids' primary school stopped releasing the position in level. But will release class/ level performance for each subject so we know where the child stands... So with such information/ paper std inconsistency among schools, I really wonder how they calibrate.

Yes, it is complicated issue. GEPpers do have advantage in DSA (rightful or not, has been discussed in other threads). As some had mentioned, there are totally different selection criteria for GEPper and Mainstream. DSA is not fair play for the start. For independent schools, they have more seats for DSA (upto 50% or more?), while Govnt schools have fixed seats (certain %, can find out from each school's website), those schools which offer niche area will have even less places for DSA
http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/admissions/dsa-sec/

So, parents from mainstream have to be realistic. Whether or not DSA is really depends on your realistic assessment of your child.. To prepare for DSA,my personally view is to start earlier, maybe at P4. From CCA to academic. find out which area where your child is \"OUTSTANDING\", then to BUILD upon it. If your child is all-rounder, (that has been constant advise from other experienced KSp from mainstream), just focus on PSLE. :xedfingers:

[ruohoo97]

phtthp:

ruohoo97:

[quote=\"MMM\"]Parents,


A general question. As the P5 and P6 papers set by each primary school is different. Can be easy or challenging.

But the minimum overall % score for some DSA schools are fixed, how do they reconcile such differences? Any insights?

I was just thinking... won't the child be at a disadvantage if their school set challenging paper versus one that don't?

If your child is from GEP, then overall score is matter.(some >80%; some >75%). If your child is from mainstream , it doesn't really matter, there is no fixed score required for DSA, but the position of child in whole school cohort is more important.

do ALL schools openly let parents know the position of the child in the entire school cohort ?
is this piece of info made readily available to Mainstream parents in report cards, or during PMT ?[/quote]Yes, it is indicated on Child's report book. under position of level and position of class....

Considering different schools have differing level of paper, Admission staffs are well versed in these difference. They will make fair adjustment.

[MMM]

yukilei:

It's easier to compare the GEP students as they sit for the same paper & do the same projects regardless of which schools they're from. That could be the reason why overall score matters for GEP students.

This makes absolute sense as it's the same yardstick.

But for mainstreamers... the paper standard really varies.... Which probably explain why there is a demand for \"top schools\" papers and not exam papers from the other less known schools. No offence I am just stating a fact so don't me.

Sometimes my friend with same age kid would say oh my ds scored eg 85 for maths. He is from a neighbourhood school. But my same age dd from a SAP school only mge say 70 and the highest is class is maybe 70+ and most of the cohort failed... I am not driving that neighbourhood schools are not good (that is not the intent) as we also have top scholars from neighbourhood schools. But my point is that it's really difficult to measure if there is indeed a standard difference until they sit for the same PSLE paper.

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jtoh:

fantasy1:

MOE DSA-sec website states that all the IP schs admitted up to 50% of the sec 1 intake thru the DSA-sec exe. Wondered why SNGS only offered such limited places (lesss than 30)?

The SNGS intake for IP is probably <100? Or maybe <80 (ie two classes worth). So COs of about 30 is not too far off from 50% of 80 or 100 vacancies.

6 IP classes 5 o level. I spoke to the Sch on 15/8 n was told they can take up to 3 classes and that they have not reached the maximum and are not \" picky\". Looks like there's a change of heart

[littletwinstars]

phtthp:

fantasy1:

So disappointed to hear that the sch only have offered such a limited vacancies (less than 30) .

The DSA process for SNGS is really tedious.

SNGS DSA offer less than 30.

i)
out of 30 -
how many allocated to SNGS own affliated primary girls, how many to outsiders ?

ii)
how many seats from SCGS DSA - also less than 30 ?
how many allocated to SCGS own affliated primary school girls first ?

iii)
how many seats from MGS DSA ?
how many allocated to MGS own affliated primary school girls first ?

I would love to know too ! Can someone volunteer to ask the schools ?

[littletwinstars]

g2:

jtoh:

[quote=\"fantasy1\"]MOE DSA-sec website states that all the IP schs admitted up to 50% of the sec 1 intake thru the DSA-sec exe. Wondered why SNGS only offered such limited places (lesss than 30)?

The SNGS intake for IP is probably <100? Or maybe <80 (ie two classes worth). So COs of about 30 is not too far off from 50% of 80 or 100 vacancies.

6 IP classes 5 o level. I spoke to the Sch on 15/8 n was told they can take up to 3 classes and that they have not reached the maximum and are not \" picky\". Looks like there's a change of heart[/quote]
No the IP classes n O level classes about half half , about 190 for each side . So if half the intake from DSA the number of vacancies should be around 90 plus ....so the actual no of places offered was way too low

[jtoh]

g2:

jtoh:

[quote=\"fantasy1\"]MOE DSA-sec website states that all the IP schs admitted up to 50% of the sec 1 intake thru the DSA-sec exe. Wondered why SNGS only offered such limited places (lesss than 30)?

The SNGS intake for IP is probably <100? Or maybe <80 (ie two classes worth). So COs of about 30 is not too far off from 50% of 80 or 100 vacancies.

6 IP classes 5 o level. I spoke to the Sch on 15/8 n was told they can take up to 3 classes and that they have not reached the maximum and are not \" picky\". Looks like there's a change of heart[/quote]Oh I see. So their IP intake is about 200+? That's just for Year 1? That's a lot. If assuming SCGS and CHS also have IP intakes of about 200 each, they're going to have a mega JC. Considering there'll also be intakes in Year 3 and Year 5.

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ruohoo97:

Yes, it is indicated on Child's report book. under position of level and position of class....


Considering different schools have differing level of paper, Admission staffs are well versed in these difference. They will make fair adjustment.

Each school has its own practice. Some schools do not indicate the position in class and/or level.

[yukilei]

MMM:

yukilei:

It's easier to compare the GEP students as they sit for the same paper & do the same projects regardless of which schools they're from. That could be the reason why overall score matters for GEP students.

This makes absolute sense as it's the same yardstick.

But for mainstreamers... the paper standard really varies.... Which probably explain why there is a demand for \"top schools\" papers and not exam papers from the other less known schools. No offence I am just stating a fact so don't me.

Sometimes my friend with same age kid would say oh my ds scored eg 85 for maths. He is from a neighbourhood school. But my same age dd from a SAP school only mge say 70 and the highest is class is maybe 70+ and most of the cohort failed... I am not driving that neighbourhood schools are not good (that is not the intent) as we also have top scholars from neighbourhood schools. But my point is that it's really difficult to measure if there is indeed a standard difference until they sit for the same PSLE paper.

My DS was from neighbourhood pri sch (not so good in the eyes of many people as compared to other neighbourhood sch in the same area) during his lower pri. I remembered he scored 100 for Math. I brought him to market, & when one of the hawker asked him for his result & his school, he answered honestly. Guess what's the reply from the hawker : \"ai ya, that's a lousy pri school, no wonder you score 100\". It was so hurting for him. He then asked me : \"if he applied for DSA in future, will the sec school thinks the same?\" I really have no answer to it.

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Hi newbie here. dd has a co from rgs. gep, in case you ask. Was wondering if anybody heard of the talent development program? What is this? :?