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    Why screen kids in P1?

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    • M Offline
      metz
      last edited by

      alng:
      From ST Forum on 7 Sep 2012. My P1 ds also confirmed that he has done this IQ test recently.



      ON JULY 30, my son, who is in Primary 1, came home from school to say that an external teacher had given his class a test that consisted of patterns. This teacher had not mentioned the word \"test\" or \"IQ\" and the pupils were given 30 minutes to fill their answer sheets.

      I did an online search of IQ tests and found one where my son was able to recognise 46 out of the 60 questions. Based on this, I deduced that the test given was the Raven's Standard Progressive Matrices test.


      David Chin
      My daughter just affirmed that she did this test in school. She recognised the questions as those on the website too.

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        SAHM_TAN
        last edited by

        I’ve forgotten abt this test till I chanced upon this thread. My dd1 took it on last wk of Jul. I had wanted to ask her school but with one thing or another, I forgotten.


        There are 60 qns, section A-E, kids must complete within 30 mins.

        It’s not for the purpose of LSP because those tests were done in the early wks of term 1.

        By right, should ask parents’ consent, just like parents’ consent are sought for GEP testing. Because it’s not a regular school test.

        My view is that since all P1 kids were tested and extra manpower were sent to the schools to administer the test, there must be some outcome and decision based on the results will be made affecting if not dd1 then her siblings.

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          alng
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          I am upset that MOE and the schools are so secretive about this IQ test. We all know about the usual assessment tests (for academic, banding purpose and for LSP) and even those UNSW and Maths Olympiad tests. Whether the schools obtain the parents' approvals of these tests on an individual test basis is not an issue at all. The schools never hide those tests from the parents.


          Coming back to this IQ test. My P6 dd said that she had never taken such a test at P1 so it must be a recent initiative. Whether this test is administered at school level or MOE level, all it takes is for the parents of current P1 students to verify and confirm with their kids.

          After reading the letter in ST forum, dh and I went to http://www.raventest.net/ and showed a sample test to our ds. He looked at the questions and told us that he had done those questions in school in August recently. He tried to describe the test to us. He said that there were different versions, A, B, C and D. He did till C and some of his classmates went on to do D. Something like that.

          Why must the schools be so secretive? The young kids do not even know what tests they are taking, let alone coming home to tell the parents. If I were to ask my ds if he has taken an IQ test in school, he probably will not know what an IQ test is.

          I hope MOE will give the parents a reply soon. I think I should also quote the ST forum letter and write an email to the school principal since my ds said that he had done such a test too.

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            metz
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            Managed to find out more about the ‘test’ from my daughter. True enough, there are different sections A - E. Furthermore, she had to shade the answers on an answer sheet. According to her, the question booklet looks green and rather ‘old’. So, this may not be a new initiative?

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              SAHM_TAN
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              Jialat liao, if shade on separate answer sheet, dd1 sure made careless mistakes, then affect own result and national result liao :rotflmao: :evil:


              She's the type who will even copy wrongly hor. 😆

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                metz
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                SAHM_TAN:
                Jialat liao, if shade on separate answer sheet, sure careless mistakes, then affect own result and national result liao :rotflmao: :evil:

                Sigh, she even drew a simplified version of the answer sheet to explain to me. Top - to fill in name, school, date. Rest of the paper taken up by sections A - D on the same page while Section E is at the back. Most questions have 6 circles, and few have 8 circles. I was :scared: But she was nonchalant about it and said she 'checked' the answers...

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                  SAHM_TAN
                  last edited by

                  chamonix:
                  SAHM_TAN:

                  Jialat liao, if shade on separate answer sheet, sure careless mistakes, then affect own result and national result liao :rotflmao: :evil:


                  Sigh, she even drew a simplified version of the answer sheet to explain to me. Top - to fill in name, school, date. Rest of the paper taken up by sections A - D on the same page while Section E is at the back. Most questions have 6 circles, and few have 8 circles. I was :scared: But she was nonchalant about it and said she 'checked' the answers...

                  Your dd very detailed. 😄

                  Ok, with name and school fields, means tracking liao.

                  I guess registration will increase for centers that are training right and whole brains. :evil:

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                    corneyAmber
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                    Maybe I am not a sophisticated parent. I was more concerned when she told me she had to poo in the middle of the surprised test. So I asked if she poo-ed or continued. When she said poo, I was so relieved and end of story, never spoken about the tests with her again. 😂 Funny right but that was all I cared! Hahaha

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                      SAHM_TAN
                      last edited by

                      ksi:
                      Maybe I am not a sophisticated parent. I was more concerned when she told me she had to poo in the middle of the surprised test. So I asked if she poo-ed or continued. When she said poo, I was so relieved and end of story, never spoken about the tests with her again. 😂 Funny right but that was all I cared! Hahaha

                      😄

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                        metz
                        last edited by

                        SAHM_TAN:
                        chamonix:

                        [quote=\"SAHM_TAN\"]Jialat liao, if shade on separate answer sheet, sure careless mistakes, then affect own result and national result liao :rotflmao: :evil:


                        Sigh, she even drew a simplified version of the answer sheet to explain to me. Top - to fill in name, school, date. Rest of the paper taken up by sections A - D on the same page while Section E is at the back. Most questions have 6 circles, and few have 8 circles. I was :scared: But she was nonchalant about it and said she 'checked' the answers...

                        Your dd very detailed. 😄

                        Ok, with name and school fields, means tracking liao.

                        I guess registration will increase for centers that are training right and whole brains. :evil:[/quote]Maybe it's different for different schools. She told me that the school name was printed on it, no need to write.

                        haha, I think most parents would get their children to try the questions on website straightaway. No need to send for training. 😂

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