Riders in Project Work

[corneyAmber]

mrswongtuition:

None of them bothered to do the make-up assignment.

Now, these 'riders' are actually teachers in MOE schools. Imagine what type of teachers they'll be.

:!: Oh my goodness!! Firstly riders and then defiant and not want to do assignment. :faint:

[corneyAmber]

Blobbi:

But back to the topic, I was chatting with a friend of mine who is a lecturer at a poly. She says kids these days are a different kettle of fish. Most have zero interest in the subjects but are very keen on the grades they get to achieve a great looking CV. They also want perfect notes that she has to print out for them (if she deviates from the notes during the lecture, they complain), and they'll argue for a higher grade even though they absolutely don't deserve it. When she tries to discuss the subject topics (to engage their thinking), they have no interest in speaking with her!

:!: Another scary revelation...what is the world becoming? No big no small... :roll:

[Blobbi]

ks2me:

:!: Another scary revelation...what is the world becoming? No big no small... :roll:

ks2me, I don't want to be a scaremonger. The evidence I mentioned is actually anecdotal, from only one person. Perhaps like most things, a few bad hats spoil the reputation of the rest.

There are quite a few lecturers on this forum, including Chief Kiasu? Maybe they can add their experience?

[jedamum]

Blobbi:

There are quite a few lecturers on this forum, including Chief Kiasu? Maybe they can add their experience?

Chief is lecturer???

[Blobbi]

jedamum:

Blobbi:

There are quite a few lecturers on this forum, including Chief Kiasu? Maybe they can add their experience?

Chief is lecturer???

Paiseh!! :oops:

[ChiefKiasu]

jedamum:

Blobbi:

There are quite a few lecturers on this forum, including Chief Kiasu? Maybe they can add their experience?

Chief is lecturer???

What jedamum? Look me no up issit?

[outsider]

I was a rider once.

It was during poly. I had to do a computer programming assignment with a partner chosen by the lecturer. I was very very weak in this subject
while my partner is super good in it. He didn’t discuss with me, he completed the assignment in 1 or 2 days and passed it to me. I am supposed to understand what he wrote and do the presentation with him.

I guess in my case, my partner rather not discuss with me, else he had to spend time teaching me, which can make him vomit blood

[corneyAmber]

outsider:

I was a rider once.

It was during poly. I had to do a computer programming assignment with a partner chosen by the lecturer. I was very very weak in this subject
while my partner is super good in it. He didn't discuss with me, he completed the assignment in 1 or 2 days and passed it to me. I am supposed to understand what he wrote and do the presentation with him.

I guess in my case, my partner rather not discuss with me, else he had to spend time teaching me, which can make him vomit blood

This kind is not exactly rider, this is the opposite phenomenon of a rider called a dictator in a project group. There are such dictators who are typically perfectionists. Anything lesser is not acceptable and hence will prefer to end up doing everything to get high score for the whole team.

[rains]

ks2me:

This kind is not exactly rider, this is the opposite phenomenon of a rider called a dictator in a project group. There are such dictators who are typically perfectionists. Anything lesser is not acceptable and hence will prefer to end up doing everything to get high score for the whole team.

I was guilty of being someone like that for quite a few years. In fact, in one of the pairwork, I actually threw away my partner's work and did the project on my own and submitted it using both our names. On reflection, I was too conceited and didn't spare a thought for my partner's feelings. I tried meeeting her up a few times but was unsuccessful so I concluded that she was one of those people who just wanted to ride on me. Eventually, she gave me her share and I didn't think it was good enough. Yeah, I know I was horrible.

But subsequently, I met other riders along the way and I had to do most of the job myself. In any case, I wanted good grades, so I didn't really mind the work so much. In one instance, I got really angry becos I had just sat through 9 hours of work for it and a friend in the group told me she needed to go for an interview at a drama centre for some volunteer work (out of interest) and so got no time for the project work.

Another interesting encounter I had was the time when a guy in our group didn't do any work for a project and he promised to do the next project on his own and credit it to the whole group, but it turned out that he didn't do a single thing the night before the submission date! So the 3 of us, minus that rider, msn from 11pm to 6am to do that project from scratch. At one point, one of the group members dozed off.

Insider,
I'm sorry your daughter has to go through what she does. Her groupmates are terrible. They actually had the cheek to disagree with the content when they blatantly didn't do their parts and the due date for presentation was the next day.

It's harder when the lecturer wants everybody to present. I really don't know what I can suggest to help make your daughter feel better.

Groupwork really sucks! What's the point of having groupwork anyway? To let those whose English is not even grammatical or those who don't know how to do the project to tap on those who are more able? To introduce 'reality' to students? It's a stupid way to do it in my opinion.

[jedamum]

ChiefKiasu:

What jedamum? Look me no up issit?

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc18/jedamum/Emoticon/indifferent0028.gif\"> wat did you say Mr Lecturer? I fell asleep.......