Scam (Time Sharing etc...) Companies Active Again-Be Careful
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Are you sure this is not another scam company? What service do they provide and with what cost? I suggest you remove this clip.[/quote]
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verykiasumummy:
Scam is wrong means it is wrong. Don't blame that to the victims greed.scammers are usually targeting at ppl who are ignorant or greedy.. not trying to say all victims are greedy, but if they calm down a while to consider why is there such an offer that is too gd to be true, they wun fall into the trap..
of cos there are other reasons involved as well... most likely when a person is desperate for money to use too...
Some victims are kind, the scammers use sympathy tactics also. -
WeiHan:
i hv relatives been scammed before... and after listening to their story, i tend to find them greedy in the first plc if not they would hv thought that no such thing as free lunch..
Scam is wrong means it is wrong. Don't blame that to the victims greed.verykiasumummy:
scammers are usually targeting at ppl who are ignorant or greedy.. not trying to say all victims are greedy, but if they calm down a while to consider why is there such an offer that is too gd to be true, they wun fall into the trap..
of cos there are other reasons involved as well... most likely when a person is desperate for money to use too...
Some victims are kind, the scammers use sympathy tactics also.
not blaming the victims, is to warn all not to be greedy, as it does not pay..
we cannot prevent or totally avoid scammers, all we can do is not to be greedy or gullible to believe them..
if u get what i mean... -
I am not so sure what kind of agreement did I sign up in the past. What I had in mind at the point of time is only to let my parents go for holiday so just sign it up. I was naive to fall into such trap without understanding the crap that I signed up for. I did not pay in full sum until now, so my membership is not even activated yet for 6yrs. Thats why they sent me a letter to warn if my balance is not clear by so so date, legal action will be taken against me and all legal fees will be beared by me. Any good advice on who or where to seek help, please pm me.
MEMBERSHIP TERMS AND CONDITIONS
1.\tDiscovery Hotels Advantage (known as “The Membership”) is owned, managed and operated by Discovery VIII International Pte. Ltd. (known as “DVIII”)
2.\tUpon 50% payment of the Total Amount Due stated overleaf and subject to such other conditions stated hereinafter, The Purchaser(s) is/are entitled to a right of occupation of the yearly hotel accommodation entitlements (stated overleaf) subject to payment of that current year’s Subscription Fee payment until the end of the membership lease (stated overleaf). The Purchaser have the right to use, loan, rent, sell or transfer The Membership until the end of The Membership lease.
3.\tThe Purchaser(s) have the option to extend The Membership lease by paying DVIII a renewal fee of S$5,000.00 (one time payment only) before the end of The Membership lease. Each renewal will extend The Membership lease by another twenty five (25) consecutive years.
4.\tThe yearly subscription fee is currently set at SGD$350.00 and activation of The Membership requires at least eight to twelve weeks to process.
5.\tUpon enrollment by DVIII for The Purchaser(s) as a member of The Membership. The Purchaser(s) shall pay The Membership subscription fees and three years International Cruise Excursion (known as “ICE”) subscription fee (only if applicable) to DVIII. Thereafter, he/she/they is/are to renew the same at his/her/their own expense and shall be subject to the terms and conditions set by DVIII and ICE.
6.\tAll hotel bookings must be made to DVIII directly and a minimum of two hotel nights (within the same hotel) is required per booking request. The Purchaser(s) will be charged US$10 per room per night if any bookings are done for guests other than themselves (GUEST ADVANTAGE). Members can occupy up to a maximum of 5 hotel rooms at each hotel at any one point.
7.\tUpon confirmation of any hotel bookings requested by The Purchaser(s), the following current booking fees must be paid to DVIII
Bookings for hotels classified for Advantage ONE category –\t\tUS$10 for weekday occupancy / US$15 for weekend occupancy
Bookings for hotels classified for Advantage TWO/THREE category – \t\tUS$30 for weekday occupancy / US$40 for weekend occupancy
(weekday occupancy – Mondays, Tuesday, Wednesdays and Thursday nights/weekend occupancy – Fridays, Saturdays and Sunday nights)
The Purchaser(s) understand(s) and accept(s) that the above rates are subject to change by DVIII.
8.\tThe booking fees must be paid within forty-eight hours upon confirmation of any hotel booking request by The Purchaser(s), failure to do so will result in mandatory cancellation of the booking request. Booking notice must be given at least 5 working days to a maximum of 3 months in advance.
9.\tStandard twin-sharing hotel rooms will be offered for each hotel night booking. Purchaser(s) have the option to upgrade to a Junior Suite Room by utilizing 3 hotel nights for 1 junior suite night based on weekend booking fees (SUITE ADVANTAGE).
10.\tThe maximum number of occupants per hotel room is two adults. Members can request to have an extra bed at an additional charge and this extra charge varies between each different hotel involved within The Membership.
11.\tThe Purchaser(s) have the option to purchase extra nights at US$120.00 for an additional three nights in any year (EXTRA ADVANTAGE). Booking fees applicable accordingly.
12.\tAvailability of all destinations/hotels is on a first-come-first-serve basis and such yearly hotel accommodation entitlements must be consumed in the same calendar year. No refund or monetary compensation will be made by DVIII to The Purchaser(s) for any unused entitlements.
13.\tAny cancellation requests after any hotel booking request is confirmed by DVIII must be made in writing and sent to DVIII via fax or post or email.
Notice of cancellations must be received by DVIII at least fifteen days prior to the check-in date else the following cancellation charges and penalties shall be borne by The Purchaser(s);
Notice of cancellation received between fourteen to seven days from the intended check-in date\t – Full forfeiture of all fees paid to DVIII
Notice of cancellation received less than seven days from the intended check-in date \t\t– Full forfeiture of all fees paid to DVIII
including the hotel nights for the intended use
14.\tThe Purchaser(s) is/are fully aware that this Membership is not a timeshare membership, property ownership or an investment, and that DVIII or ICE do not re-sell or rent out this Membership on behalf of The Purchaser(s), and neither DVIII nor ICE guarantees or promises any rental or return on investments or share of profits in respect of The Membership to their members or any third party.
15.\tAny variation, modification, addition or deletion of this Agreement shall be of no legal effect unless the same is reduced to writing and signed by the Purchaser(s) and the authorized personnel from DVIII.
16.\tAll payments made to DVIII by the Purchaser(s) will not be refunded in any circumstances and The Purchaser(s) is/are aware of his/her/their obligations towards completing the balance of the Total Amount Due.
17.\tIn the event of The Purchaser(s) fail(s) to make the payment of any of the said installments specified in this Agreement, time of payment being of the essence, the full amount of the Total Purchase Price or the balance owing under this Agreement shall become immediately due and payable.
18.\tThe Purchaser(s) have/has purchase The Membership Discovery Hotels Advantage after careful consideration and will full awareness and understanding of his/her/their financial position and he/she/they is/are happy to confirm the purchase.
19.\tThe Purchaser(s) agree(s) that all questions relating to this purchase have been fully answered to his/her/their satisfaction and that The Purchaser(s) have read and fully understand all aspects of this purchase and have at no time been under any duress.
20.\tThe Purchaser(s) acknowledges that they have entered into this Purchase Agreement entirely on their own free will and it is not reversible nor can it be rescinded at the option of either the Purchaser(s) or the Company.
21.\tThis Agreement shall be construed in accordance with the law of the Republic of Singapore. (FTA documents enclosed.)
22.\tIn the event that it is necessary for DVIII to enforce this Agreement by legal proceedings, The Purchaser(s) agree(s) to pay all legals costs and disbursement incurred by The Marketer on a full indemnify basis and as between a solicitor and his client.
23.\tThe operating hours for our customer relations department are from 3.00pm-10.00pm (Tuesdays-Fridays) and 1.00pm-6.00pm (Saturdays-Sundays) -
gardenia2012:
Please see private message that I have send you.I am not so sure what kind of agreement did I sign up in the past. What I had in mind at the point of time is only to let my parents go for holiday so just sign it up. I was naive to fall into such trap without understanding the crap that I signed up for. I did not pay in full sum until now, so my membership is not even activated yet for 6yrs. Thats why they sent me a letter to warn if my balance is not clear by so so date, legal action will be taken against me and all legal fees will be beared by me. Any good advice on who or where to seek help, please pm me.
MEMBERSHIP TERMS AND CONDITIONS
1.\tDiscovery Hotels Advantage (known as “The Membership”) is owned, managed and operated by Discovery VIII International Pte. Ltd. (known as “DVIII”)
2.\tUpon 50% payment of the Total Amount Due stated overleaf and subject to such other conditions stated hereinafter, The Purchaser(s) is/are entitled to a right of occupation of the yearly hotel accommodation entitlements (stated overleaf) subject to payment of that current year’s Subscription Fee payment until the end of the membership lease (stated overleaf). The Purchaser have the right to use, loan, rent, sell or transfer The Membership until the end of The Membership lease.
3.\tThe Purchaser(s) have the option to extend The Membership lease by paying DVIII a renewal fee of S$5,000.00 (one time payment only) before the end of The Membership lease. Each renewal will extend The Membership lease by another twenty five (25) consecutive years.
4.\tThe yearly subscription fee is currently set at SGD$350.00 and activation of The Membership requires at least eight to twelve weeks to process.
5.\tUpon enrollment by DVIII for The Purchaser(s) as a member of The Membership. The Purchaser(s) shall pay The Membership subscription fees and three years International Cruise Excursion (known as “ICE”) subscription fee (only if applicable) to DVIII. Thereafter, he/she/they is/are to renew the same at his/her/their own expense and shall be subject to the terms and conditions set by DVIII and ICE.
6.\tAll hotel bookings must be made to DVIII directly and a minimum of two hotel nights (within the same hotel) is required per booking request. The Purchaser(s) will be charged US$10 per room per night if any bookings are done for guests other than themselves (GUEST ADVANTAGE). Members can occupy up to a maximum of 5 hotel rooms at each hotel at any one point.
7.\tUpon confirmation of any hotel bookings requested by The Purchaser(s), the following current booking fees must be paid to DVIII
Bookings for hotels classified for Advantage ONE category –\t\tUS$10 for weekday occupancy / US$15 for weekend occupancy
Bookings for hotels classified for Advantage TWO/THREE category – \t\tUS$30 for weekday occupancy / US$40 for weekend occupancy
(weekday occupancy – Mondays, Tuesday, Wednesdays and Thursday nights/weekend occupancy – Fridays, Saturdays and Sunday nights)
The Purchaser(s) understand(s) and accept(s) that the above rates are subject to change by DVIII.
8.\tThe booking fees must be paid within forty-eight hours upon confirmation of any hotel booking request by The Purchaser(s), failure to do so will result in mandatory cancellation of the booking request. Booking notice must be given at least 5 working days to a maximum of 3 months in advance.
9.\tStandard twin-sharing hotel rooms will be offered for each hotel night booking. Purchaser(s) have the option to upgrade to a Junior Suite Room by utilizing 3 hotel nights for 1 junior suite night based on weekend booking fees (SUITE ADVANTAGE).
10.\tThe maximum number of occupants per hotel room is two adults. Members can request to have an extra bed at an additional charge and this extra charge varies between each different hotel involved within The Membership.
11.\tThe Purchaser(s) have the option to purchase extra nights at US$120.00 for an additional three nights in any year (EXTRA ADVANTAGE). Booking fees applicable accordingly.
12.\tAvailability of all destinations/hotels is on a first-come-first-serve basis and such yearly hotel accommodation entitlements must be consumed in the same calendar year. No refund or monetary compensation will be made by DVIII to The Purchaser(s) for any unused entitlements.
13.\tAny cancellation requests after any hotel booking request is confirmed by DVIII must be made in writing and sent to DVIII via fax or post or email.
Notice of cancellations must be received by DVIII at least fifteen days prior to the check-in date else the following cancellation charges and penalties shall be borne by The Purchaser(s);
Notice of cancellation received between fourteen to seven days from the intended check-in date\t – Full forfeiture of all fees paid to DVIII
Notice of cancellation received less than seven days from the intended check-in date \t\t– Full forfeiture of all fees paid to DVIII
including the hotel nights for the intended use
14.\tThe Purchaser(s) is/are fully aware that this Membership is not a timeshare membership, property ownership or an investment, and that DVIII or ICE do not re-sell or rent out this Membership on behalf of The Purchaser(s), and neither DVIII nor ICE guarantees or promises any rental or return on investments or share of profits in respect of The Membership to their members or any third party.
15.\tAny variation, modification, addition or deletion of this Agreement shall be of no legal effect unless the same is reduced to writing and signed by the Purchaser(s) and the authorized personnel from DVIII.
16.\tAll payments made to DVIII by the Purchaser(s) will not be refunded in any circumstances and The Purchaser(s) is/are aware of his/her/their obligations towards completing the balance of the Total Amount Due.
17.\tIn the event of The Purchaser(s) fail(s) to make the payment of any of the said installments specified in this Agreement, time of payment being of the essence, the full amount of the Total Purchase Price or the balance owing under this Agreement shall become immediately due and payable.
18.\tThe Purchaser(s) have/has purchase The Membership Discovery Hotels Advantage after careful consideration and will full awareness and understanding of his/her/their financial position and he/she/they is/are happy to confirm the purchase.
19.\tThe Purchaser(s) agree(s) that all questions relating to this purchase have been fully answered to his/her/their satisfaction and that The Purchaser(s) have read and fully understand all aspects of this purchase and have at no time been under any duress.
20.\tThe Purchaser(s) acknowledges that they have entered into this Purchase Agreement entirely on their own free will and it is not reversible nor can it be rescinded at the option of either the Purchaser(s) or the Company.
21.\tThis Agreement shall be construed in accordance with the law of the Republic of Singapore. (FTA documents enclosed.)
22.\tIn the event that it is necessary for DVIII to enforce this Agreement by legal proceedings, The Purchaser(s) agree(s) to pay all legals costs and disbursement incurred by The Marketer on a full indemnify basis and as between a solicitor and his client.
23.\tThe operating hours for our customer relations department are from 3.00pm-10.00pm (Tuesdays-Fridays) and 1.00pm-6.00pm (Saturdays-Sundays)
I suggest that you just ignore them until they really call you to the court which they never do.
After 6 years, there is nothing much that you can do at SCT as SCT only handle cases that are less than 1 year.
Have you tried to book before? You may private message me as Jerry Tan does come to this forum to read. -
WeiHan:
I agree. I strongly urge everyone who writes in the forum to be discrete as much as possible. Do not try to expose to much informations in forums as this is public site. Who knows who is reading ! Better be safe and protect ourselves, you don't want to pple like JT to pre-empt things or capitalized in his evil deeds.Please see private message that I have send you.
I suggest that you just ignore them until they really call you to the court which they never do.
After 6 years, there is nothing much that you can do at SCT as SCT only handle cases that are less than 1 year.
Have you tried to book before? You may private message me as Jerry Tan does come to this forum to read. -
Gardenia2012,
I just send you an email. As you know, your info is scanty, and I am not able to give a better advise base on that.
As victims may know, Asia Pacific Bullion and Gold Guarantee both come under MAS alert list.
And these two companies are related to D8 and i-discover as Jerry Tan has sold them to Lee Song Teck. Recent victims have told CASE that they were offered a gold guarantee should they decide to pay up the remaining amount to The Discovery Group which now own D8 and i-discover.
In my opinion, in view of the leatest development, you can ignore their legal threat. Just report to CASE asap. -
Saw Lee Song Teck in the news last night?
Both his companies come under MAS alert.
The reporters asked him how does his companies generate profits. He said, currently there is a mass selling of gold in the market at a cheap price and they manage to buy those cheap bullions. And that is one way that they generate profits.
That is bullshit!
The current physical market is very tight. If that is how he generates profit , then why would he want to pass the profit to others. -
Agreed with Weihan. Its ULTIMATE BULLSHIT for that "Company"
According to the victims who were interviewed in news last night. They were either pushed away with excuses or reasons they can’t claim back their gold/money, some were given payment voucher to get withdrawal/claim on certain date but they were not being honored.
This time round, I believe it is true that majority are greedy people who fell into his buaya(alligator) mouth. 24% per annum profit? i only know credit card interest is that high per annum but not profits or interest. maybe i am wrong though. Lucky I did not sign up this shit when they offered this gold thingy option. Once bitten, Twice Wise! No free lunch in this world. -
gardenia2012:
But those interviewed last night were victims of Geneva Gold. Gold Guarantee and Asia Pacific Bullion want to lure them over. Anyway, they are all the same since they have the same scam model.Agreed with Weihan. Its ULTIMATE BULLSHIT for that \"Company\"
According to the victims who were interviewed in news last night. They were either pushed away with excuses or reasons they can't claim back their gold/money, some were given payment voucher to get withdrawal/claim on certain date but they were not being honored.
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