GEP 2012 - Screening & Selection
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sunnymumsy:
Heard that the top scorers for PSLE are generally not from GEP... if that is the case, what's the point of GEP apart frm prestige? Can someone enlighten me? How will it help a student?
GEP is not a program to help any child do well in PSLE or studies for that matter.
GEP is catered for children who naturally possess the intellectual maturity to be able to grasp more complex concepts and ideas easily and on their own (as compared to their peers). This does not mean they will always do well in exams.
Children of such abilities are known to have asynchronous development, that is, while they are more mature in intellect, they are still basically kids at heart, and struggle like other kids in terms of growing up. There are some more serious 'cons' associated with this unbalanced development, when it comes to dealing with social norms, or dealing with authority.
Because of this, a number of these children may not fit well in mainstream, either through boredom (because they can grasp and understand in a short time what their peers take several worksheets to figure out), and lose interest, or start challenging or disturbing others. Some classify these kids as children with special needs, and rightfully so in many aspects.
Thus the perceived need for smaller class size for GEP students (need more attention), and more topics that challenges their intellect.
And so, one should never, ever, train for the GEP selection, these kids are expected to learn in the classroom, or on their own reading, the topics, not by tuition, or drilling.
Having said this, I'm not advocating that GEP is a good program, but we find one that fits the child, and provide for them what they need to be able to survive on their own, and also find the joy in getting an education regardless of mainstream or otherwise.
Cheers. -
MrsSeah:
Nope. According to the mother, this boy is good in maths by doing lots of assessment books from P1. But his English, Science average, Chinese no interest. Now he has no tuition except get tutor to coach him in writing, can't write well.Sunflower mummy:
My friend who has a P5 GEP boy share with me her GEP experience.
She told me she regretted sending him into the programme. The child is not the self discipline kind and requires 'push' to do / revise his homework. And there are lots of projects to do in GEP programme, social studies itself 3projects a year. And due to his poor time management, he left with very little time to revise. Furthermore when the boy encounters difficulties in his studies, they don't know how to coach him(the boy's father is a PHD holder). She said compare to mainstream, the kids have more time to revise the work as projects do not affect them much...
I am not sure if this is one of the reason that we don't see often PSLE top scorer to be GEP kids...and a friend kid who is GEP has a score of 222 in PSLE while his friend in mainstream has 265.
Do your friend send his son for training to go into the gep?
The mother wanted to put him in mainstream but the GEP programme once started can't reverse, they are allowed to go back mainstream 2months before PSLE. -
simple2005:
Thank you for your enlightenment.GEP is not a program to help any child do well in PSLE or studies for that matter.
GEP is catered for children who naturally possess the intellectual maturity to be able to grasp more complex concepts and ideas easily and on their own (as compared to their peers). This does not mean they will always do well in exams.
Children of such abilities are known to have asynchronous development, that is, while they are more mature in intellect, they are still basically kids at heart, and struggle like other kids in terms of growing up. There are some more serious 'cons' associated with this unbalanced development, when it comes to dealing with social norms, or dealing with authority.
Because of this, a number of these children may not fit well in mainstream, either through boredom (because they can grasp and understand in a short time what their peers take several worksheets to figure out), and lose interest, or start challenging or disturbing others. Some classify these kids as children with special needs, and rightfully so in many aspects.
Thus the perceived need for smaller class size for GEP students (need more attention), and more topics that challenges their intellect.
And so, one should never, ever, train for the GEP selection, these kids are expected to learn in the classroom, or on their own reading, the topics, not by tuition, or drilling.
Having said this, I'm not advocating that GEP is a good program, but we find one that fits the child, and provide for them what they need to be able to survive on their own, and also find the joy in getting an education regardless of mainstream or otherwise.
Cheers. -
sunnymumsy:
Heard that the top scorers for PSLE are generally not from GEP... if that is the case, what's the point of GEP apart frm prestige? Can someone enlighten me? How will it help a student?
The top scorers in any football league are never the goalkeeper. So why even play football if you are a goalkeeper??
PSLE is just one small part in our academic journey, dear. -
Sunflower mummy:
Nope. According to the mother, this boy is good in maths by doing lots of assessment books from P1. But his English, Science average, Chinese no interest. Now he has no tuition except get tutor to coach him in writing, can't write well.MrsSeah:
[quote=\"Sunflower mummy\"]My friend who has a P5 GEP boy share with me her GEP experience.
She told me she regretted sending him into the programme. The child is not the self discipline kind and requires 'push' to do / revise his homework. And there are lots of projects to do in GEP programme, social studies itself 3projects a year. And due to his poor time management, he left with very little time to revise. Furthermore when the boy encounters difficulties in his studies, they don't know how to coach him(the boy's father is a PHD holder). She said compare to mainstream, the kids have more time to revise the work as projects do not affect them much...
I am not sure if this is one of the reason that we don't see often PSLE top scorer to be GEP kids...and a friend kid who is GEP has a score of 222 in PSLE while his friend in mainstream has 265.
Do your friend send his son for training to go into the gep?
The mother wanted to put him in mainstream but the GEP programme once started can't reverse, they are allowed to go back mainstream 2months before PSLE.[/quote]That's not true. If the parent feels so strongly about placing the child back in mainstream, she can definitely do so. The choice is the parents'. -
sunnymumsy:
Heard that the top scorers for PSLE are generally not from GEP... if that is the case, what's the point of GEP apart frm prestige? Can someone enlighten me? How will it help a student?
The GEP programme is not there to hone top PSLE scorers. That never was its objective. If you want to be a top PSLE scorer, you're better off doing drills in mainstream. But bear in mind that PSLE is but a pit stop in the education journey. It is not the destination. -
simple2005:
:goodpost:sunnymumsy:
Heard that the top scorers for PSLE are generally not from GEP... if that is the case, what's the point of GEP apart frm prestige? Can someone enlighten me? How will it help a student?
GEP is not a program to help any child do well in PSLE or studies for that matter.
GEP is catered for children who naturally possess the intellectual maturity to be able to grasp more complex concepts and ideas easily and on their own (as compared to their peers). This does not mean they will always do well in exams.
Children of such abilities are known to have asynchronous development, that is, while they are more mature in intellect, they are still basically kids at heart, and struggle like other kids in terms of growing up. There are some more serious 'cons' associated with this unbalanced development, when it comes to dealing with social norms, or dealing with authority.
Because of this, a number of these children may not fit well in mainstream, either through boredom (because they can grasp and understand in a short time what their peers take several worksheets to figure out), and lose interest, or start challenging or disturbing others. Some classify these kids as children with special needs, and rightfully so in many aspects.
Thus the perceived need for smaller class size for GEP students (need more attention), and more topics that challenges their intellect.
And so, one should never, ever, train for the GEP selection, these kids are expected to learn in the classroom, or on their own reading, the topics, not by tuition, or drilling.
Having said this, I'm not advocating that GEP is a good program, but we find one that fits the child, and provide for them what they need to be able to survive on their own, and also find the joy in getting an education regardless of mainstream or otherwise.
Cheers. -
Nebbermind:
Agreed.sunnymumsy:
Heard that the top scorers for PSLE are generally not from GEP... if that is the case, what's the point of GEP apart frm prestige? Can someone enlighten me? How will it help a student?
The top scorers in any football league are never the goalkeeper. So why even play football if you are a goalkeeper??
PSLE is just one small part in our academic journey, dear. -
jtoh:
I seconded that. The only unknown is whether the kid stays in the GEP school mainstream class or go back to their previous school. Think the kid & parents can decide & if wanna stay in GEP school needs to subject to availability. So far all cases I saw, the kids prefer to go back to previous school.
That's not true. If the parent feels so strongly about placing the child back in mainstream, she can definitely do so. The choice is the parents'.Sunflower mummy:
The mother wanted to put him in mainstream but the GEP programme once started can't reverse, they are allowed to go back mainstream 2months before PSLE. -
GEP is not meant for exam smart student…that is why they do not focus so much on PSLE results.
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