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      ImMeeMee
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      Slmkhoo


      The therapists did not advise how much eye contact to maintain, whether prolonged or fleeting. But I think to progress to other areas of joint attention or imitation, a certain level of eye contact is required. Not rude staring though.

      My daughter started from occasional fleeting eye contact at the beginning. Now she still dosent maintain eye contact when she is greeting the person, but she has acceptable eye contact when she is maintaining a conversation.

      Just early this week, she walked up to my husband with her water bottle, looked him in the eye, showed him her water bottle and said in exact words,"look, papa, my water bottle is spoilt."

      I witnessed for myself eye contact, joint attention, proper communication all in one. The moment was amazing.

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        schweppes
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        ImMeeMee:
        Slmkhoo


        The therapists did not advise how much eye contact to maintain, whether prolonged or fleeting. But I think to progress to other areas of joint attention or imitation, a certain level of eye contact is required. Not rude staring though.

        My daughter started from occasional fleeting eye contact at the beginning. Now she still dosent maintain eye contact when she is greeting the person, but she has acceptable eye contact when she is maintaining a conversation.

        Just early this week, she walked up to my husband with her water bottle, looked him in the eye, showed him her water bottle and said in exact words,\"look, papa, my water bottle is spoilt.\"

        I witnessed for myself eye contact, joint attention, proper communication all in one. The moment was amazing.
        my ice cream moment. your water bottle moment. sometimes words just can't describe... :love:

        ps... er... have not forgotten. still owe u a reply :oops: :imsorry:

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          ImMeeMee
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          schweppes:


          my ice cream moment. your water bottle moment. sometimes words just can't describe... :love:

          ps... er... have not forgotten. still owe u a reply :oops: :imsorry:
          hey schweppes, aptly said ... your durian ice cream, my water bottle. Thanks for naming my moment ... 😄

          no worries, take your time. Just make sure you are fine and I look forward. 😉

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            helplessmum3
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            mashy:
            helplessmum3:

            [quote=\"nugget\"]I think life skills are things skills learnt to make our lives better and happier...


            Some of the life skills are taught, some you gain through experience. Things like taking turns, showing empathy, enjoying music and exercise, how to talk to people, appreciate yourself and people around you...

            weekend i met my fren son who same age as my son. he talk so much!! i din know NT kid is like tat .. 😢 heart broken

            I bet that friend's son can't read as well as yours. Your boy has his strengths too. Stop obsessing about his weakness. Although my NT gal can talk very well, I don't foresee her able to read at the age when my boy started reading.[/quote]yes mashy, my friend's son cant read and only know numbers upto number 7..
            so what this will come later stage for them mah. i know A-Z when im in primary de...

            Talking is very important mah. now this world, u mus not know only how to work, u mus also need to know how to tallk well to communicate your work mah...

            human is not suppose to be a machine ...

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              helplessmum3
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              ImMeeMee:
              Then again just went for a talk on early intervention from an overseas speaker who is an expert in this area and he shared that the foundational skills in ASD are joint attention and imitation.


              I suppose these are not exactly life skills but learning different skills could be more effective if the child has these two foundational skills, because there could be a lot more incidental learning.
              hi ImMeeMee
              thanks for the head start, very helpful to me..

              i son already know how to imitate.
              whenever he see his friends do somthing he too follows..
              and he very interested in his peers.

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                helplessmum3
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                ArielMermaid:
                helplessmum3:

                Hi Nuggets, thanks for your advise,

                is your child already at epic?


                any mummies here ,your child already in rainbow?

                My son is and has been in Rainbow for more than 3 years. I really appreciate them and my son enjoys going to school as well. His teachers are very nice and will send me SMS/ pictures every now and then. Every week, they will update the communication booklet with the activities done and even pictures of him. Rainbow organises a lot of outings- to the zoo, Science Centre, theatres, etc.

                However, I heard of some grouses from other parents that they feel that their children (with serious sensory issues) are being relegated to \"worse\" classes and are not treated fairly.

                Hope the above helps

                how old is your son? which group he is in, isit cohort group, is he in morning session or afternoon session.

                what has your son learn so far, how u know he has progress?

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                  helplessmum3
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                  Kar Kar,


                  at this 2yo, now is the time to establish eye contacts first. and make him see you more… then come verbal.

                  my son was has lesser eye contact and w verbal request , now he is able to request at look at us…

                  step by step…
                  i suggest you start this first.
                  Blow Bubble
                  Blow Balloon.
                  get the toys he like near to your eye.

                  you mus plan his room now… keep all the toy, place them high up. tat he cant reach him self. so he will try to get help from you…

                  u have not choice this the way to help me tat, he need to get help or eye contact or try to ask ./talk is necessary .

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                    ArielMermaid
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                    helplessmum3:

                    how old is your son? which group he is in, isit cohort group, is he in morning session or afternoon session.

                    what has your son learn so far, how u know he has progress?
                    He is currently 6 years old, in the afternoon session. There are about 6 others in his class, with 3 teachers and some volunteers.

                    Hrmmmm... as for his progress, when he was 3 years old, he ran around whenever he had the chance, spoke only a few words and was totally unregulated. Now, at 6+, generally he listens to instructions but knows who he can bully and \"override\", can sit down and work with me for about 2 hours at a stretch, talks alot, can read and write and do simple math. Of course, he still have his quirks and autistic and socially- inappropriate behaviour and other challenges.

                    I have to add that other than Rainbow, he also has a lot of classes and therapies. In fact, until recently, his mondays to saturdays were totally filled up with classes and therapies.

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                      mashy
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                      slmkhoo:
                      helplessmum3:

                      yes mashy, my friend's son cant read and only know numbers upto number 7..

                      so what this will come later stage for them mah. i know A-Z when im in primary de...

                      Talking is very important mah. now this world, u mus not know only how to work, u mus also need to know how to tallk well to communicate your work mah...

                      human is not suppose to be a machine ...

                      Helplessmum - I couldn't help but notice how you apply double standards (red), and it's to your son's disadvantage. If you can understand that your friend's son will pick some things up later, why not give your son the same room to grow? You have seen that this one NT kid talks a lot at 3yo, but not all NT kids do. I know some adults who don't talk much! Keep encouraging your son and he will improve over time. He may not become the world's best talker, but there's no need to feel so discouraged so early on.

                      As for the need to talk (blue), with increasing use of electronic media, there are lots of ways to work with minimal face-to-face communication. Some of our kids (my daughter is one of them) who are not great verbal communicators will have to look for such jobs. For eg., my daughter says she wants to be a writer, and we encourage that as she can mostly work on her own. Failing that, she can probably do proofreading, indexing, backroom jobs in libraries etc. So don't worry so much!

                      Simkhoo
                      Totally agree with you. It's really no big deal whether u can talk very well or not unless u want to be a salesman. To me, even if my son can't talk well, he can be a scientist, researcher, computer programmer and even a pathologist. So many jobs that he can do which doesn't require talking and even eye contact. I think a parent's support is more important than anything. If we only look at the worst in them, how can we ever bring out the best in them?

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                        mashy
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                        helplessmum3:


                        yes mashy, my friend's son cant read and only know numbers upto number 7..
                        so what this will come later stage for them mah. i know A-Z when im in primary de...

                        Talking is very important mah. now this world, u mus not know only how to work, u mus also need to know how to tallk well to communicate your work mah...

                        human is not suppose to be a machine ...
                        Think u are unaware of the education system now. If at primary 1, u only know a-z, u will be sent to learning support Prog. It's a special class where weaker pupils are sent to during English lessons. Nowadays by pri 1, the kids are expected to know how to read.

                        Your son will also talk at a later stage mah. What's wrong with reversing the process? Some pp talk before they read. Some read before they talk. It's perfectly fine. In fact, most of those with high iq are those who read before they talk because they are able to absorb a lot of knowledge thru reading.

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