Secondary School Selection 2012

[wonderm]

The following information can shed some light:

1. If a child scores an average mark for all subjects (i.e. if he is at 50 percentile for each subject), his T-score will be 200.
2. At national level, students scoring A and A* (2011):
English: 44.3%
Maths: 43.5%
Science: 43.5%
Chinese: 80.6%

Hence, it is possible to require 4As for a T-score of 220. Of course, since the range for A is so wide, a child with 4As may also have a much higher T-score than 220.

[ks2011]

alng:

I am not trying to scare anyone here.


If a student gets average score for all the 4 subjects, his/her T-score will be exactly 200. If the average of 4 subjects is 75% (which I doubt for some subjects like Maths), then one really needs 4A to get a T score of 200!

I dont think the national average for any subject will be 75%.

[janet88]

With the increase of COP to 220 for affiliated pri, it may be getting harder to reach bcos PSLE every year will also get harder. Anyway, I don’t want to think about this yet. Son just asked me, why are the results released only in Nov when they are all marked by 2moro. Explained to him there is paper work and there are also several thousands of P6s.

[wonderm]

slmkhoo:

ks2011:

I dont think the national average for any subject will be 75%.

Based on the statistics provided by wonderm, it must be for Chinese if 80% score A and above. But bear in mind that an A in school may be harder to score (if the school sets harder papers) than an A in PSLE.

I think so too. By the way, the statistics I quoted were not numbers for a specific school, but the numbers for PSLE 2011 at national level, taken from a primary school website which used these national figures to compare with its own school performance.

[Nebbermind]

with 80% A for chinese, how does the bell curve look like??

Is it still a bell curve?

[Pen88n]

Nebbermind:

with 80% A for chinese, how does the bell curve look like??

Is it still a bell curve?

It is a bell curve, shifted to the right, and probably a little irregular in shape??? :rotflmao:

[wonderm]

Pen88n:

Nebbermind:

with 80% A for chinese, how does the bell curve look like??

Is it still a bell curve?

It is a bell curve, shifted to the right, and probably a little irregular in shape??? :rotflmao:

The % for A and A* for Chinese has been around 80% for quite long already, at least since 2008 when my ds1 took his PSLE. I was quite surprised then because so many parents complained about Chinese dragging down their DC T-score, yet the statistics show so many kids score A and A*.

[Pen88n]

wonderm:

Pen88n:

[quote=\"Nebbermind\"]with 80% A for chinese, how does the bell curve look like??

Is it still a bell curve?

It is a bell curve, shifted to the right, and probably a little irregular in shape??? :rotflmao:

The % for A and A* for Chinese has been around 80% for quite long already, at least since 2008 when my ds1 took his PSLE. I was quite surprised then because so many parents complained about Chinese dragging down their DC T-score, yet the statistics show so many kids score A and A*.[/quote]Wonderm,

Getting a A or A* for Chinese does not guarantee the kid a high T-score for that subject. Imagine, if the mean is 80% and your kid score 81%, he will still get a A, but T-score for that subject is only 50.x even if it is a A. And yes, that means those with less than A will be scoring less than 50 for T-score for that subject. Sad and scary :nailbite: right???

[Nebbermind]

But I thought the grades (A*, A etc) are allocated after the fitting into the bell curve and so the % should be roughly the same as the rest of the subjects. No meh?

[ks2011]

slmkhoo:

ks2011:

[quote=\"alng\"]I am not trying to scare anyone here.


If a student gets average score for all the 4 subjects, his/her T-score will be exactly 200. If the average of 4 subjects is 75% (which I doubt for some subjects like Maths), then one really needs 4A to get a T score of 200!

I dont think the national average for any subject will be 75%.

Based on the statistics provided by wonderm, it must be for Chinese if 80% score A and above. But bear in mind that an A in school may be harder to score (if the school sets harder papers) than an A in PSLE.[/quote]But A does not mean above 75 and A* does not mean above 90. Last yr, my dd said she would not get above 91 in MT based on her performance but got an A* in all subjects including MT.