GEP 2012 - Screening & Selection

[Funz]

OK, OK. No upset ok? Understand where you are coming from.


What you really mean is kids from disadvantaged background but potential GEP material.

[Lilac66]

Melodies:

I'm not referring to officially GEP kids. I'm referring to those potential but undiscovered 'GEP' kid which is ended up in mainstreams with no helps. I didn't say that they will 100% end up in SS. I said 'MAY\".

I don't quite get you... getting into mainstream w/o help? Meaning if it's GEP, they'll get lots of help?How so? If anything, w/o help in GEP is going to be much tougher than in mainstream.

But anyway, I'm scared of cows.. so will stop here. But I do share your sentiments about disadvantaged kids. :hi5:

[Funz]

Lilac66:

Melodies:

I'm not referring to officially GEP kids. I'm referring to those potential but undiscovered 'GEP' kid which is ended up in mainstreams with no helps. I didn't say that they will 100% end up in SS. I said 'MAY\".

I don't quite get you... getting into mainstream w/o help? Meaning if it's GEP, they'll get lots of help?How so? If anything, w/o help in GEP is going to be much tougher than in mainstream.

But anyway, I'm scared of cows.. so will stop here. But I do share your sentiments about disadvantaged kids. :hi5:

I also confused. I oso scared of the cows here but I do so love my chargrilled beef.

In any case, GEP or mainstream, privileged or disadvantaged, if not given the proper guidance by parents and teachers, may go off rail. So I still don't see how not being discovered as GEP makes a diff in this case.

[Melodies]

I didn't say that 'not being discovered as GEP makes a diff in this case'!


I'm advocating the same set of helps/benefits to be provided fairly to mainstreamers.

Funz:

Lilac66:

[quote=\"Melodies\"]I'm not referring to officially GEP kids. I'm referring to those potential but undiscovered 'GEP' kid which is ended up in mainstreams with no helps. I didn't say that they will 100% end up in SS. I said 'MAY\".

I don't quite get you... getting into mainstream w/o help? Meaning if it's GEP, they'll get lots of help?How so? If anything, w/o help in GEP is going to be much tougher than in mainstream.

But anyway, I'm scared of cows.. so will stop here. But I do share your sentiments about disadvantaged kids. :hi5:

I also confused. I oso scared of the cows here but I do so love my chargrilled beef.

In any case, GEP or mainstream, privileged or disadvantaged, if not given the proper guidance by parents and teachers, may go off rail. So I still don't see how not being discovered as GEP makes a diff in this case.[/quote]

[Melodies]

For all you know, you have small class-size in GEP, good teaching materials in GEP and teacher can have close-coaching in GEP, Aren't these the helps that the GEPpers received. :? Even without any parental helps, GEP teachers and GEP branch will provide help to those GEPpers all the time. All these helps/benefits that GEPpers are getting will definitely help them to perform. In fact, these will help the mainstreamers to perform as well provided all these helps/benefits are equally provided to mainstreamers.

Lilac66:

I don't quite get you... getting into mainstream w/o help? Meaning if it's GEP, they'll get lots of help?How so? If anything, w/o help in GEP is going to be much tougher than in mainstream.

But anyway, I'm scared of cows.. so will stop here. But I do share your sentiments about disadvantaged kids. :hi5:

[Nebbermind]

I’m not aware any ‘close coaching’ in GEP.

[iRabbit]

Melodies:

For all you know, you have small class-size in GEP, good teaching materials in GEP and teacher can have close-coaching in GEP, Aren't these the helps that the GEPpers received. :? Even without any parental helps, GEP teachers and GEP branch will provide help to those GEPpers all the time. All these helps/benefits that GEPpers are getting will definitely help them to perform. In fact, these will help the mainstreamers to perform as well provided all these helps/benefits are equally provided to mainstreamers.

Don't get angry over something I wish to clarify hor.

I tot you posted just a couple of pages before that you don't buy the idea that GEP is a good route to a decent education at all in the very first place [see red below]. That got me - and apparently some other forummers - all confused as you seem to be saying diff things above. :scratchhead:

Melodies:

BTW, I do not even buy in the idea of GEP is a good route to a decent education at all in the very first place. I have seen some 'products' of the GEP before and I know what to expect from them.

[Lilac66]

Funz:

I also confused. I oso scared of the cows here but I do so love my chargrilled beef.

In any case, GEP or mainstream, privileged or disadvantaged, if not given the proper guidance by parents and teachers, may go off rail. So I still don't see how not being discovered as GEP makes a diff in this case.

Agree !!
But at least you like chargrilled beef.. I don't like beef at all!

[Lilac66]

Melodies:

For all you know, you have small class-size in GEP, good teaching materials in GEP and teacher can have close-coaching in GEP, Aren't these the helps that the GEPpers received. :? Even without any parental helps, GEP teachers and GEP branch will provide help to those GEPpers all the time. All these helps/benefits that GEPpers are getting will definitely help them to perform. In fact, these will help the mainstreamers to perform as well provided all these helps/benefits are equally provided to mainstreamers.

Regarding disadvantaged kids, I've discussed in other threads some time ago, so don't wish to repeat here, also this thread is for GEP. Since MOE has already promised to make improvements to our education system, like raising the quality of teachers, mainstreamers will benefit.
I do not think GEPpers are coached so much more.. if you go through the GEP thread carefully, it's alot on indep learning/ parental help.

[Melodies]

You mean the teacher marks the composition and provides a detailed comments and suggestion to improve and also have draft 1, 2, 3 type of marking are not considered \" close-coaching\" in GEP . In mainstream, the teacher just provides the mark with 'nothing' literally.

Nebbermind:

I'm not aware any 'close coaching' in GEP.