Hwa Chong Institution (High School)

[yukilei]

wonderm:

yukilei:

I'm still pretty confuse on the subjects that account for MSG. For a start, for Sec 1, am I right to say that those core subj like English, Math, Science, Higher Chinese, History, Geography, Literature will account for MSG right? Btw, do they have CL for HCI?

ProteX gave a good explanation here http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=5901&start=2300

Just to summarize for you. For Lower Sec, 6 subjects are counted for academic MSG for most kids:

Lang Art (includes Eng and Lit)
HCL (no CL, all the boys take HCL)
Maths
Science
Integrated Humanities (includes Geog and Hist)
InfoComm Studies

Thank you wonderm!!!! Not sure why I've missed ProteX explanation on page 231. Maybe because I read it from the phone while travelling.. tat's why didn't register in my mind. Old liao..

Btw, what is AEP & LEP?

[PiggyLalala]

wonderm:

PiggyLalala:

Hi wonderm,
There is also something I would like to ask regarding integrated Humanities. Does it mean tt the pupils sit for one integrated humanities paper in the exam that comprises of 2 sections geog and hist respectively or is it first semester = history paper and the next semester = geog?

Thank you very much.

Good question. They did it in a few ways in the past:
1. students take separate Hist and Geo papers, marks are added to reflect term results 50%+50%
2. students take one paper which includes sections on Hist and Geog
3. students take Hist paper only in one term, and Geog paper only in next term.

It is hard to say which way they will do next year, for your DS' level. So need to wait and see.

Thank you. May I know if there is only one paper for the integrated humanities, can I assume that the questions on Hist and Geo are placed in 2 different sections, ie, section A - History and section B - Geog. That is to say, students just need to use the history knowledge to answer the questions in section A and geog knowledge in section B respectively.

The term 'Integrated Humanities' sounds very intimidating and demanding to me. I hope it will not be a interdisciplinary exam where the pupils are expected to use and apply both history and geog knowledge to answer the same question.

[wonderm]

yukilei:

Btw, what is AEP & LEP?

AEP - Art Elective Program
LEP - Lang Elective Program (this is essentially Chinese, see promo video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3xcj19rtDo)

[PiggyLalala]

wonderm:

yukilei:

Btw, what is AEP & LEP?

AEP - Art Elective Program
LEP - Lang Elective Program (this is essentially Chinese, see promo video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3xcj19rtDo)

Thanks for the video. Are they yr 1 or year 2 students?
Who can opt for this Lang Elective Program. I guess it is not easy to be selected into this program.

[wonderm]

PiggyLalala:

wonderm:

[quote=\"PiggyLalala\"]
Hi wonderm,
There is also something I would like to ask regarding integrated Humanities. Does it mean tt the pupils sit for one integrated humanities paper in the exam that comprises of 2 sections geog and hist respectively or is it first semester = history paper and the next semester = geog?

Thank you very much.

Good question. They did it in a few ways in the past:
1. students take separate Hist and Geo papers, marks are added to reflect term results 50%+50%
2. students take one paper which includes sections on Hist and Geog
3. students take Hist paper only in one term, and Geog paper only in next term.

It is hard to say which way they will do next year, for your DS' level. So need to wait and see.

Thank you. May I know if there is only one paper for the integrated humanities, can I assume that the questions on Hist and Geo are placed in 2 different sections, ie, section A - History and section B - Geog. That is to say, students just need to use the history knowledge to answer the questions in section A and geog knowledge in section B respectively.

The term 'Integrated Humanities' sounds very intimidating and demanding to me. I hope it will not be a interdisciplinary exam where the pupils are expected to use and apply both history and geog knowledge to answer the same question.[/quote]Both ways are possible. They change the syllabus and assessment methods from year to year, so need to look out for briefing. Don't need to worry, they will learn the ways to handle the questions in class.

[wonderm]

PiggyLalala:

wonderm:

[quote=\"yukilei\"]Btw, what is AEP & LEP?

AEP - Art Elective Program
LEP - Lang Elective Program (this is essentially Chinese, see promo video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3xcj19rtDo)

Thanks for the video. Are they yr 1 or year 2 students?
Who can opt for this Lang Elective Program. I guess it is not easy to be selected into this program.[/quote]Although I recognize some of the boys in the video, I don't know when it was taken, could be when they were in Sec 2 or 3? My DS didn't opt for it. I don't think it is hard to be chosen. Once you do LEP, it will be counted towards MSG. So those not strong in Chinese don't really want to choose it.

[yukilei]

wonderm:

Although I recognize some of the boys in the video, I don't know when it was taken, could be when they were in Sec 2 or 3? My DS didn't opt for it. I don't think it is hard to be chosen. Once you do LEP, it will be counted towards MSG. So those not strong in Chinese don't really want to choose it.

Wonderm, what did your DS opt for?

Both LEP & 3rd Language are related to language. & language is always not an easy subject to master. If the school were to change the calculation of the Academic MSG to 2 Languages + 3 Core Subjects + 1 Additional Subject (InfoComm Studies/Third Language/LEP/AEP), maybe many boys will still stick to InfoComm Studies as I think boys are more interested to IT rather than languages.

[wonderm]

yukilei:

wonderm:

Although I recognize some of the boys in the video, I don't know when it was taken, could be when they were in Sec 2 or 3? My DS didn't opt for it. I don't think it is hard to be chosen. Once you do LEP, it will be counted towards MSG. So those not strong in Chinese don't really want to choose it.

Wonderm, what did your DS opt for?

Both LEP & 3rd Language are related to language. & language is always not an easy subject to master. If the school were to change the calculation of the Academic MSG to 2 Languages + 3 Core Subjects + 1 Additional Subject (InfoComm Studies/Third Language/LEP/AEP), maybe many boys will still stick to InfoComm Studies as I think boys are more interested to IT rather than languages.

InfoComm Studies is a compulsory subject for Lower Sec. But LEP and AEP and Third Lang are optional subjects. My boys only do the compulsory subjects, didn't choose any optional subjects.

[yukilei]

wonderm:

yukilei:

[quote=\"wonderm\"]
Although I recognize some of the boys in the video, I don't know when it was taken, could be when they were in Sec 2 or 3? My DS didn't opt for it. I don't think it is hard to be chosen. Once you do LEP, it will be counted towards MSG. So those not strong in Chinese don't really want to choose it.

Wonderm, what did your DS opt for?

Both LEP & 3rd Language are related to language. & language is always not an easy subject to master. If the school were to change the calculation of the Academic MSG to 2 Languages + 3 Core Subjects + 1 Additional Subject (InfoComm Studies/Third Language/LEP/AEP), maybe many boys will still stick to InfoComm Studies as I think boys are more interested to IT rather than languages.

InfoComm Studies is a compulsory subject for Lower Sec. But LEP and AEP and Third Lang are optional subjects. My boys only do the compulsory subjects, didn't choose any optional subjects.[/quote]Thank you wonderm!!! Not sure if my thought is right, I would prefer my DS to stick to only compulsory subj at least in Lower sec. At least, he can have more time to cope with sec life.

[PiggyLalala]

wonderm:

PiggyLalala:

[quote=\"wonderm\"]

Good question. They did it in a few ways in the past:
1. students take separate Hist and Geo papers, marks are added to reflect term results 50%+50%
2. students take one paper which includes sections on Hist and Geog
3. students take Hist paper only in one term, and Geog paper only in next term.

It is hard to say which way they will do next year, for your DS' level. So need to wait and see.

Thank you. May I know if there is only one paper for the integrated humanities, can I assume that the questions on Hist and Geo are placed in 2 different sections, ie, section A - History and section B - Geog. That is to say, students just need to use the history knowledge to answer the questions in section A and geog knowledge in section B respectively.

The term 'Integrated Humanities' sounds very intimidating and demanding to me. I hope it will not be a interdisciplinary exam where the pupils are expected to use and apply both history and geog knowledge to answer the same question.

Both ways are possible. They change the syllabus and assessment methods from year to year, so need to look out for briefing. Don't need to worry, they will learn the ways to handle the questions in class.[/quote]Thank you very much, wonderm, for answering my questions on the integrated humanites.

May I ask you a few other questions again.
1. What is the average HCL grade of the pupils in year 1 and 2?
2. What is the average academic msg of the pupils in year 1 and 2?
3. What is considered to be a good academic msg for the year 1 and year 2 pupils?
4. What about Year 3? The pupils will have to choose between history and geo, so there will be no more integrated humanities?
5. Am i right to say most pupils will do 8/9 subjects in year 3?

Sorry for asking so many questions. I am keen to put my ds in HCI if his result permits.

Also, do you have any idea when the MRT station outside HCI be ready?

Thank you once again.