Really impossible to direct hire Indonesian maid?
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sheryl:
mmm... if the maid have KTKLN card and passport ready, than don't need the agent to bring them over liao.Many mths back, I was checking with this agency on the cost to bring my ex Indonesia maid back. She said she will only charge me agency fee which is about $680. The agent will charge the maid 2 mths of salary. The maid must have the KTKLN card & passport ready. Or else they also could not do the direct hire for me.
You may want to call to check the rate again.
Roland Employment Agency
Tel : 67383831 & 67383832
Doing workpermit in Singapore is VERY easy don't required agent help.
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Layla:
Problem is, the Indon Govt seems to have implemented the new rules from May/June 2012. Can anyone who has direct hired after JUNE confirm that it is do-able?
my friend direct hiring maid, the maid came end of oct 2012 -
busygal:
The procedure to get own maid is so easy, I can't believe I've been paying agent so much for so many years. Mostly clicking on MOM website only. Upon arrival, pick her from airport, send to medical, bring her to MOM once only on a sat morning, less than 1 hour all done.
busygal: Thanks for sharing. If your maid came on a tourist passport, how was her social visit pass converted to a work permit? Does the Work Permit office at Tanjong Pagar do it as a matter of routine for such cases or did she have to exit Singapore (e.g. go to Msia) and then show the temp approval from MOM at Singapore Immigration when she returns? And if she goes on home leave after 1 year, she will have to pay the fiskal/exit tax at the Indon airport, yes? (From what I understand, KTKLN holders don't have to pay fiskal.) -
BuSy JuNeBuG:
busygal:
The procedure to get own maid is so easy, I can't believe I've been paying agent so much for so many years. Mostly clicking on MOM website only. Upon arrival, pick her from airport, send to medical, bring her to MOM once only on a sat morning, less than 1 hour all done.
busygal: Thanks for sharing. If your maid came on a tourist passport, how was her social visit pass converted to a work permit? Does the Work Permit office at Tanjong Pagar do it as a matter of routine for such cases or did she have to exit Singapore (e.g. go to Msia) and then show the temp approval from MOM at Singapore Immigration when she returns? And if she goes on home leave after 1 year, she will have to pay the fiskal/exit tax at the Indon airport, yes? (From what I understand, KTKLN holders don't have to pay fiskal.)
Passport is just a pssoort. A document to travel. Only indo give maid thinner one so that they would know who are the maids. She applied for passport as a indo citizen, ordinary passport. Those who come as maids will be given thinner passport so that official at indo side can tell straight away that they are maids. That way, when they return, they go to separate que and pay money in order to enter indo. Their way of extorting money from their own ppl whom they deem richer. Ordinary passport means just ordinary citizen going in and out for holiday. No fizkal tax, nothing to pay. My maid has more than 10 years experience in sg. Initially, first time came on maid passport thru agency. Subsequently after years of working, went back to rest. Change to normal ordinary passport for travel for leisure and I believe she did travel for leisure a little before deciding to come back to work. Thus when I direct hire her, just used back that passport. She did not come in as tourist. All MOM procedures followed. I called MOM, they guided me through their website to do the application, all from comfort of my own home. She came in with approval from MOM to work as maid. I fax her MOM approval and air ticket. Everything was done legally. At indo side, she just use air ticket and passport to leave the country. I collected her from airport, send her for medical, which take about an hour. Then the next sat morning, I took her to MOM. Again all completed in an hour or two. Easy and fast. But procedure may have change as I did mine early this year. From this forum, I realised there were changes since June/July 2012. So things may have change. Call MOM. They are nice and will guide u thru it patiently. -
busygal:
Hi, do you buy 2 ways ticket or 1 way ticket for her?
Passport is just a pssoort. A document to travel. Only indo give maid thinner one so that they would know who are the maids. She applied for passport as a indo citizen, ordinary passport. Those who come as maids will be given thinner passport so that official at indo side can tell straight away that they are maids. That way, when they return, they go to separate que and pay money in order to enter indo. Their way of extorting money from their own ppl whom they deem richer. Ordinary passport means just ordinary citizen going in and out for holiday. No fizkal tax, nothing to pay. My maid has more than 10 years experience in sg. Initially, first time came on maid passport thru agency. Subsequently after years of working, went back to rest. Change to normal ordinary passport for travel for leisure and I believe she did travel for leisure a little before deciding to come back to work. Thus when I direct hire her, just used back that passport. She did not come in as tourist. All MOM procedures followed. I called MOM, they guided me through their website to do the application, all from comfort of my own home. She came in with approval from MOM to work as maid. I fax her MOM approval and air ticket. Everything was done legally. At indo side, she just use air ticket and passport to leave the country. I collected her from airport, send her for medical, which take about an hour. Then the next sat morning, I took her to MOM. Again all completed in an hour or two. Easy and fast. But procedure may have change as I did mine early this year. From this forum, I realised there were changes since June/July 2012. So things may have change. Call MOM. They are nice and will guide u thru it patiently. -
JJ1111:
Hi JJ1111,
Hi, do you buy 2 ways ticket or 1 way ticket for her?
I gave her a one way ticket. -
if the maid comes in with a normal tourist passport, then can KTKLN cards be processed in the in don embassy in Singapore?
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En-joy:
if the maid comes in with a normal tourist passport, then can KTKLN cards be processed in the in don embassy in Singapore?
No. It can only be done in Indon. Anyway, she doesn't need the card here. The card is only to enable her to leave Indon. So get it done when she goes for home leave.
However, if it's a tourist passport, will she be able to apply for KTKLN? Or would KTKLN be necessary at all? -
I think passport is passport, no normal or tourist. As I said they only purposely give maid thinner than normal, fewer pages, so that they immediately can tell that these ppl work as maids. Or maybe they think maid dun travel so dun need thick passport.
I didn’t check my maids belonging. Have no idea if she has the card. I can check with her. Coz she is such an experience maid, in and out of sg so much, I told her I will handle everything on SG side, MOM, insurance, air ticket etc. She was suppose to handle all the requirement on indo side by herself, make sure she has passport valid for two years or more, and make sure she arrives in SG with the air ticket I send to her. That’s why it’s so easy for me. I didn’t bother to worry about indo side coz she handled it by herself. -
POA Teacher:
I thought the idea of using the tourist passport is so that the Indon authorities do not track the maid as an FDW. The KTKLN is an identification card for Indon overseas workers so that they know who's going where and working as what, so I think it defeats the purpose of going the tourist passport route if one is later going to go to head to a KTKLN office and register. As busygal pointed out earlier, it is not that easy to get a tourist passport in the first place.En-joy:
if the maid comes in with a normal tourist passport, then can KTKLN cards be processed in the in don embassy in Singapore?
No. It can only be done in Indon. Anyway, she doesn't need the card here. The card is only to enable her to leave Indon. So get it done when she goes for home leave.
However, if it's a tourist passport, will she be able to apply for KTKLN? Or would KTKLN be necessary at all?
There's a step-by-step guide for direct hiring here:
http://www.singaporemotherhood.com/forumboard/messages/5/Getting_an_INDO_maid_WITHOUT_an_agent-6792714-7519586.pdf
Please don't follow it in its entirety without first googling and enquiring with official sources to see if there have been any other policy changes since. The policies can change from time to time or also from place to place or officer to officer, so do not just rely on anecdotal evidence shared here. From the stories I've read so far in this thread and elsewhere, the experiences differ slightly or significantly and can be hard to reconcile. Last thing you want is to have made all the arrangements and then find your maid turned back at either an Indon or Changi airport.
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