Punggol East By-Election coming ? MP steps down
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tankee:
Funny mine cut off at 10pm sharp.... Watching via safari.....Dreamgear:
CNA just cut off the live streaming midway thru sylvia lim speech......
no. I was watching the live stream on cna too, it was on all the way, including Mr Low closed the rally. -
can never understand how they manage to count the number of people in the crowd...
tankee:
maybe that was at the start of the rallyoctoberbaby:
This is contradicting. Yahoo news only show few people.
Extracted from yahoo news
The Workers' Party went on the offensive on Saturday evening during its first rally of the Punggol by-election on Saturday night.
On a muddy field in Punggol, more than 5,000 people turned up to hear WP secretary-general Low Thia Kiang go on the offensive and urge voters not to let the PAP take them for granted....
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/don-t-let-pap-take-you-for-granted--wp-s-low-thia-kiang-145835630.html -
Dreamgear:
CNA just cut off the live streaming midway thru sylvia lim speech......
the 2 ah lians rally speeches
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kf5JW-yeBI][/youtube]
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvWEfGQ5Jkc][/youtube] -
SL speech is nice
let also show pap rally too
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC_rU5j5ZnQ][/youtube] -
imwithchild:
[/quote]maybe this will give a clearer idea on how many people attended ?can never understand how they manage to count the number of people in the crowd...
maybe that was at the start of the rallytankee:
[quote=\"octoberbaby\"]This is contradicting. Yahoo news only show few people.
Extracted from yahoo news
The Workers' Party went on the offensive on Saturday evening during its first rally of the Punggol by-election on Saturday night.
On a muddy field in Punggol, more than 5,000 people turned up to hear WP secretary-general Low Thia Kiang go on the offensive and urge voters not to let the PAP take them for granted....
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/don-t-let-pap-take-you-for-granted--wp-s-low-thia-kiang-145835630.html
dis was taken AFTER the rally has finished. :nailbite:
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtDTaH1x7Xk][/youtube] -
We were there from 8-10pm. Field was really muddy and some folks had muddy splash on their t-shirt. We stood on the pavement near the shops.
Missed Terence Tan’s speech. Manage to see it online. Another good potential. I thought ah huat is more polished and engaging. Hey that is our mp. Never regret going down. I think there were alot of non pe voters. But for people to brave the bad weather and conditions to be there, it tells alot.
I respect ruling party for what it has done for Singapore. However, i also feel that without wp and social media providing control checks. Things that we saw in the last 2 years will not surface to the commoner. Their presence helps drive accountability to the people and transparency. Some questioned if wp has done much. But being the minority how much can they influence??? -
Strparent:
Wa, last night couldn't be your buddy cos I was making mud pie with my feet!
u, MMM and raysusan always my election forum buddies[/size][/i] :boogie:
Wow, appreciate sharing of all those photos! I had guests at home (from neighbourhood town :evil: ) and I deserted them to join the crowd downstairs!
Was the first time since 1996 I attended WP rally. Waded beyond the hard ground into the pool of mud, getting my slippers stuck every now and then was no joke. It was too dark to see how the ground was like but I continued to head towards the light and the crowd. I had to take care not to splatter dirt onto other people.
The PAP rally brought the rain, and it didn't stop until right before WP rally started. What strange timing that was. As I peered out of the window at the never ending showers earlier in the day, my mom blurted, \"The rain will stop for the good people.\" And it did.
The crowd was slow to arrive. I suspect that to be due to accessibility. Streams of people arrived in batches as I watched from my window. Each LRT could only carry that many people each time. Many old folks were there to listen to what is not available through MSM. There was light drizzle when I joined the crowd, and was surprised few were using umbrellas for fear of blocking others' views. Some old folks had already made themselves comfortable there earlier with cardboards and chairs to sit on. Most people ground themselves to a spot that has no puddle, and when someone tries to move in the crowd, we would have to pluck our feet off the ground to give way. The crickets hopped amongst our feet, trying to find their way to safer grounds.
I didn't stay throughout, but long enough to see camera flashes from the flat nearby. Each time LTK came up to speak, there would be bursts of party pops with reflective papers sparkling above our heads. When he greeted us and we responded with a unanimous and spontaneous ”好!“, I heard it echoing through the blocks of surrounding flats...
Ok, gota go, fill u guys in later..
Please share how your ride was in getting here - for those who came from other places! -
MMM:
to me, wp is like the pap in the 50s-70s. people-oriented, humble, focused. yes, i want wp to have more seats in parliament. already pap scrambling to right their policies that gone wrong, and with wp inside, they would do more.
I respect ruling party for what it has done for Singapore. However, i also feel that without wp and social media providing control checks. Things that we saw in the last 2 years will not surface to the commoner. Their presence helps drive accountability to the people and transparency. Some questioned if wp has done much. But being the minority how much can they influence???
the problem however is wp and pap trying to be more populist to win votes and think of their survival in terms of 5-year politics and policies, rather than strategic like the pap of the 50-s70s. -
The way I see oppositions is they are not the same. WP seems more sincere and credible and rather upfront. They are saying they do not wish to seize power from PAP but just want to check the government, watch the government. They even admit PAP have good policies. They want to be in parliament so that they can continue to ‘check’ and ‘watch’ government.
To me, this is dangerous for Singapore. From what they said, I took it that they know they can’t ran Singapore and they are happy with their ‘checking’ and ‘watching’ roles. I am fine with it even though I think if I am the one who do all the hard works, coming up with solutions and policies but someone who doesn’t do much can just ‘check’ and ‘watch’ and get all the credits, it will be hard for me to continue doing it. In this aspect, kudos to the PAP. Now what if WP comes into power? Then they no longer can ‘check’ and ‘watch’. They have to do it, like what PAP is doing now. If they are as capable as the incumbent, I don’t even bother who will form the government, as a political party, I just feel if you want my vote, it is not enough to play the roles of check’ and ‘watch’. -
HVR:
If they had said that they could form a government, would you have believed them?The way I see oppositions is they are not the same. WP seems more sincere and credible and rather upfront. They are saying they do not wish to seize power from PAP but just want to check the government, watch the government. They even admit PAP have good policies. They want to be in parliament so that they can continue to 'check' and 'watch' government.
To me, this is dangerous for Singapore. From what they said, I took it that they know they can't ran Singapore and they are happy with their 'checking' and 'watching' roles. I am fine with it even though I think if I am the one who do all the hard works, coming up with solutions and policies but someone who doesn't do much can just 'check' and 'watch' and get all the credits, it will be hard for me to continue doing it. In this aspect, kudos to the PAP. Now what if WP comes into power? Then they no longer can 'check' and 'watch'. They have to do it, like what PAP is doing now. If they are as capable as the incumbent, I don't even bother who will form the government, as a political party, I just feel if you want my vote, it is not enough to play the roles of check' and 'watch'.
Since alternative political views have been suppressed until very recently with control of the mainstream media, lawsuits and redrawing of electoral boundaries, we can hardly blame the opposition for its lack of experience in governance.
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