The PM now admits.........

[3Boys]

ChiefKiasu:

Rational_Parent:

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On why there is still a need to moderate social space involving social media, for example, Mr Lee said the online community in particular is not moderating itself.

Extreme views are put out and responses and disapprovals are also extreme. So this cannot be left to itself.

Mr Lee said: \"We don't believe the community in the social space, especially online, moderates itself. It doesn't happen anywhere in the world.

\"You have views going to extremes and when people respond to their views, they may respond in an extreme way, and when people decide to disapprove of something which was inappropriate, the disapproval can also happen in an extreme way.

\"It's in the nature of the medium, the way the interactions work and that's the reason why we think it cannot be completely left by itself.\"

- CNA/ir

This sounds ominous. Sounds like they are planning to turn on more screws on social media. Licensing on the cards? I wonder.

I doubt so. If they were to be so foolish, they are going to hurt even more in the near future.

[Rational_Parent]

ChiefKiasu:

This sounds ominous. Sounds like they are planning to turn on more screws on social media. Licensing on the cards? I wonder.

Well, one thing is certain - many, including politicians have been reading posts from this forum! Can't kill a source where valuable feedback can be derived. And licencing will stifle inputs. My reckoning, KSP is safe; and so is your job, chief. :evil:

[3Boys]

Rational_Parent:

ChiefKiasu:

This sounds ominous. Sounds like they are planning to turn on more screws on social media. Licensing on the cards? I wonder.

Well, one thing is certain - many, including politicians have been reading posts from this forum! Can't kill a source where valuable feedback can be derived. And licencing will stifle inputs. My reckoning, KSP is safe; and so is your job, chief. :evil:

I agree. Tough though the talk here is, it ain't no HWZ!

[pirate]

Hee hee. We scold them only when they deserving a :spank: shellacking. And sometimes we :torchme: each other too. But after that, it's all :grphug:

[HVR]

Nobody can have 20/20 foresight. Who would expect 2003 Sars outbreak? Our country was almost crippled by it and I deeply appreciate how the government tackled the crisis. No resources spared and no chances taken and I don’t remember any suggestions or feedback or anything from opposition parties.


With regard to social media, it’s a joke sometimes. Bloggers are not too bad, they say what they said and are ultimately responsible for it. Forums, on the other hand, provided an opportunity for people to be irresponsible. I am not saying all forum-ers are irresponsible but I noticed in some other forums, it’s practically only anti-establishment views are allowed. If you expressed support for PAP, you will be called names, ridiculed, cursed and so on. Where is the maturity? How to debate in such serious topic as politic if people are not mature?

If you seriously analyze the views shared by some of these forum-ers, you would realize they actually have little views. They are only interested in inciting emotion and generate hatres. Sometime I wonder PAP, why, as a political party, chose to leave all these views unchallenged. I am sure they can get their activists to post objective views and their side of the story in these forums as well. If you want to be heard and defense yourself against all these allegations in the Internet forums, you have to be in the forums. They don’t have to respond as government, just someone with different views and someone who want the different views to be heard.

In KSP, can you imagine if we don’t have 3boys? It will be one sided as well. Luckily unlike other forums, majority here still debate rationally. I am not saying 3boys is a PAP supporter, he said more than once he had voted for opposition. My point is, generally, Internet forums only contain views that are in support of opposition. It’s too one sided and its not healthy in term of objectivity.

PM said social media did not ‘moderate’ itself and cannot be left to itself. I don’t know which way this will go but I agree with PM that the views expressed by the online community are too extremes and I think this is extremely unhealthy.

[kwcllf]

Rational_Parent:

SINGAPORE:

He acknowledged that infrastructure like housing and transport didn't keep up with that growth.

Mr Lee said: \"I decided that we should try and make up for lost time because you want the economy to grow. You want Singapore to make progress and you don't know how long the sun is going to shine. As it turned out, the sun remained shining for longer than we expected. So the population grew faster than we expected, our infrastructure didn't keep up.

\"The strains showed up...They didn't show up gradually, progressively but quite suddenly.

- CNA/ir

This part I do not understand. If Singaporeans are not producing enough babies, then the increase in population must come from immigration. If there is an explosive growth in population, does it not mean that the govt did not manage it properly, which causes the strain in infrastructure?

[Harlequin]

HVR:

Nobody can have 20/20 foresight. Who would expect 2003 Sars outbreak? Our country was almost crippled by it and I deeply appreciate how the government tackled the crisis. No resources spared and no chances taken and I don't remember any suggestions or feedback or anything from opposition parties.


With regard to social media, it's a joke sometimes. Bloggers are not too bad, they say what they said and are ultimately responsible for it. Forums, on the other hand, provided an opportunity for people to be irresponsible. I am not saying all forum-ers are irresponsible but I noticed in some other forums, it's practically only anti-establishment views are allowed. If you expressed support for PAP, you will be called names, ridiculed, cursed and so on. Where is the maturity? How to debate in such serious topic as politic if people are not mature?

If you seriously analyze the views shared by some of these forum-ers, you would realize they actually have little views. They are only interested in inciting emotion and generate hatres. Sometime I wonder PAP, why, as a political party, chose to leave all these views unchallenged. I am sure they can get their activists to post objective views and their side of the story in these forums as well. If you want to be heard and defense yourself against all these allegations in the Internet forums, you have to be in the forums. They don't have to respond as government, just someone with different views and someone who want the different views to be heard.

In KSP, can you imagine if we don't have 3boys? It will be one sided as well. Luckily unlike other forums, majority here still debate rationally. I am not saying 3boys is a PAP supporter, he said more than once he had voted for opposition. My point is, generally, Internet forums only contain views that are in support of opposition. It's too one sided and its not healthy in term of objectivity.

PM said social media did not 'moderate' itself and cannot be left to itself. I don't know which way this will go but I agree with PM that the views expressed by the online community are too extremes and I think this is extremely unhealthy.

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[ngl2010]

kwcllf:

Rational_Parent:

SINGAPORE:

He acknowledged that infrastructure like housing and transport didn't keep up with that growth.

Mr Lee said: \"I decided that we should try and make up for lost time because you want the economy to grow. You want Singapore to make progress and you don't know how long the sun is going to shine. As it turned out, the sun remained shining for longer than we expected. So the population grew faster than we expected, our infrastructure didn't keep up.

\"The strains showed up...They didn't show up gradually, progressively but quite suddenly.

- CNA/ir

This part I do not understand. If Singaporeans are not producing enough babies, then the increase in population must come from immigration. If there is an explosive growth in population, does it not mean that the govt did not manage it properly, which causes the strain in infrastructure?

I wonder about it too :scratchhead:

[3Boys]

HVR:

Nobody can have 20/20 foresight. Who would expect 2003 Sars outbreak? Our country was almost crippled by it and I deeply appreciate how the government tackled the crisis. No resources spared and no chances taken and I don't remember any suggestions or feedback or anything from opposition parties.


With regard to social media, it's a joke sometimes. Bloggers are not too bad, they say what they said and are ultimately responsible for it. Forums, on the other hand, provided an opportunity for people to be irresponsible. I am not saying all forum-ers are irresponsible but I noticed in some other forums, it's practically only anti-establishment views are allowed. If you expressed support for PAP, you will be called names, ridiculed, cursed and so on. Where is the maturity? How to debate in such serious topic as politic if people are not mature?

If you seriously analyze the views shared by some of these forum-ers, you would realize they actually have little views. They are only interested in inciting emotion and generate hatres. Sometime I wonder PAP, why, as a political party, chose to leave all these views unchallenged. I am sure they can get their activists to post objective views and their side of the story in these forums as well. If you want to be heard and defense yourself against all these allegations in the Internet forums, you have to be in the forums. They don't have to respond as government, just someone with different views and someone who want the different views to be heard.

In KSP, can you imagine if we don't have 3boys? It will be one sided as well. Luckily unlike other forums, majority here still debate rationally. I am not saying 3boys is a PAP supporter, he said more than once he had voted for opposition. My point is, generally, Internet forums only contain views that are in support of opposition. It's too one sided and its not healthy in term of objectivity.

PM said social media did not 'moderate' itself and cannot be left to itself. I don't know which way this will go but I agree with PM that the views expressed by the online community are too extremes and I think this is extremely unhealthy.

Oops! :oops:

Now I'm gonna get rained on and be accused of being a closet PAP activist......no rational person could possibly be supportive of the government unless he had some ulterior motive, right?

[HVR]

kwcllf:

Rational_Parent:

SINGAPORE:

He acknowledged that infrastructure like housing and transport didn't keep up with that growth.

Mr Lee said: \"I decided that we should try and make up for lost time because you want the economy to grow. You want Singapore to make progress and you don't know how long the sun is going to shine. As it turned out, the sun remained shining for longer than we expected. So the population grew faster than we expected, our infrastructure didn't keep up.

\"The strains showed up...They didn't show up gradually, progressively but quite suddenly.

- CNA/ir

This part I do not understand. If Singaporeans are not producing enough babies, then the increase in population must come from immigration. If there is an explosive growth in population, does it not mean that the govt did not manage it properly, which causes the strain in infrastructure?

Yes I think we have too many foreigners. We do need people to support economy and growth. If only we have enough babies and we do not need to allow so many foreigners to come in. I welcome them if they can contribute in whatever ways but I do think not everyone of them can assimilate seamlessly and this will cause us some problems.