Are you ready for 7 million people on tiny Singapore?
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limlim:
False.
Exactly!JannettLee:
Benefits of good growth of GDP are not cascaded down to many Singaporean but everyone got hit by the high costs of living/inflation.
How much does the g'ment give back in GST rebates?
How much healthcare subsidies are in place for lower income, funded from taxes (inclusing GST)?
How much school subsidies are funded from taxes (including GST)?
Do you not benefit from the defence umbrella funded by taxes (including GST)?
This whole falsehood about GST not benefiting the common Singaporean, wait till you don't have it, then you'll see. -
pirate:
Do you personally came across pple who are rejected LTP? how well do you know them? Do you know them well enough that they tell you truthfully everything including any previous convictions? (if any)
I can tell you that if that woman is an offender, she is not even going to get a social visit pass, certainly not for two years. Sincerity is :censored: BS. Baby already come out still not sincere?! How to show sincerity? Bleach the skin white or have to bribe the officer, is it?limlim:
I can confidently tell you that your assumption may not be valid.
I can only say.. ICA is not that inhumane..
Sometimes, they may grant a visa.. then, and extension every month. I am aware of cases like that. Every month, go ICA to stamp the passport. Maybe after a few months, they allow 3 mths LTP or something like that.. then, after 1~2 years, 6 mth LTP.. and so on. They don't immediately give LTVP or LTPV+.. sincerity matters sometimes.
I would safety assume that ICA is not going to release any personal information (incl past offences, if any) of that author, even if they are going to reply. So, mentioning that these are immigration offenders or anything to that effect is probably not gonna happen.
To those pple, my advise is, just go and stamp the passport every month if need be. be glad that they are allowed to stay here. Show their sincerity.. and they may get the LTP one day..
Also, the sponsor matters too. Why the husband not write in but instead is the foreigner writing for herself? Why the SC husband didn't make a stand? don't be surprised but there may be cases where the SC spouse don't care.. Not all cases.. but sometimes, that is what happens..
As observers, I would say, there is too little information for us to make a fair judgement..
Shall we ask the Singaporean children of \"those pple\" to pray every day and give thanks to the ICA for their magnificent benevolence in allowing their mothers or fathers to be with them? :mad:
From what I have heard and read about, ICA is that inhumane. MPs already say that they have encountered many cases in their meet the people sessions. What, ICA think our MPs too free, is it?
If you don't believe what I posted, so be it. I just share what I'm aware of. I do not need to convince you. I say as a matter of fact that the part is RED can be WRONG. I have seen cases before, stamp the passport every month, until get PR.
\"Sincerity\" I have already said. Wait patiently and stamp the passport every month, continue trying until they give. Why need to bring in nonsensical remarks like bribe the officer etc..?
Those who complain cannot get LTP, I doubt how honest or truthful they are. PR is strict, we know. But LTP, I doubt so.
Unless someone from ICA come out and said some nationalities are discriminated, I will not believe it. -
JannettLee:
Now that I've read this again, I can't believe this rubbish you are trying to pass off as fact. Is there not a GST offset you can use?
Whoever is running a business in Singapore will know that 7% GST is added for every changing-hand and hence there are a few times (changing hands) of 7% GST are compounded and factored into the costs and they price their goods accordingly. Consumer would have to foot the bill.
Do you really know what you are talking about? -
WeiHan:
Finally, some sense.
As for sexual conservatism, it is just definition. I am not against man having sex with man, I against oral sex, I am not against recreational sex as long as they satisfy some criteria of creating harm to a third part. Am I still conservatism. I am open to other family structures that may work equally well as traditional family structure, so am I trying to tear down traditional family values? Do we need to penalise non-traditional family structure in the name of protecting traditonal family values? All examples that 3boys gave in fact says that they are not mutually exclusive.
So instead of railing against 'traditional family values', seeking to throw the baby out with the bathwater, how about you be specific about areas you are unhappy about? You will find a whole lot more willingness to discuss those issues than if all you do is to promulgate a complete overturn of values by which the vast majority of us were raised and still live by. -
3Boys:
Theoretically, it is possible if the goods go through a supply train alternating between GST-registered and non-GST-registered suppliers. In practice, I would think the amount is very small as businesses of any scale to speak of will register for GST so that they can offset input tax. Most commercial importers and wholesalers would be GST-registered.
Now that I've read this again, I can't believe this rubbish you are trying to pass off as fact. Is there not a GST offset you can use?JannettLee:
Whoever is running a business in Singapore will know that 7% GST is added for every changing-hand and hence there are a few times (changing hands) of 7% GST are compounded and factored into the costs and they price their goods accordingly. Consumer would have to foot the bill.
Do you really know what you are talking about?
Eg. Goods first imported @ $100 by Importer A who is not GST-registered. 7% GST is levied by customs on import. So, A's cost is $107.
A then sells @ $150 to Wholesaler B who is GST-registered. There is no input tax that B can claim.
B sells @ $200 + GST to Distributor C who is not GST registered. C cannot claim back the $14 GST that is collected by B.
C then sells @ $250 to Retailer D who is GST registered. D can claim no input tax.
D then sells @ $300 + GST to consumer and collects $21 GST.
In total, $7+$14+$21=$42 GST is collected on a retail sale of $300. If the chain was all GST-registered, only $21 GST would have been collected.
But seriously, how many such chains are there in real life? -
pirate:
Theoretically, it is possible if the goods go through a supply train alternating between GST-registered and non-GST-registered suppliers. In practice, I would think the amount is very small as businesses of any scale to speak of will register for GST so that they can offset input tax. Most commercial importers and wholesalers would be GST-registered.[/quote]Agree, but any business working in this model better have a damn compelling product or price point, or more efficient operators will have their lunch in no time. Competition will drive companies/wholesalers/retailers to the most efficient tax flow.
Now that I've read this again, I can't believe this rubbish you are trying to pass off as fact. Is there not a GST offset you can use?3Boys:
[quote=\"JannettLee\"]
Whoever is running a business in Singapore will know that 7% GST is added for every changing-hand and hence there are a few times (changing hands) of 7% GST are compounded and factored into the costs and they price their goods accordingly. Consumer would have to foot the bill.
Do you really know what you are talking about?
In the typical supplier --> importer/wholesaler --> retailer --> consumer chain, with GST offset, how many layers of GST does the consumer incur? -
pirate:
Theoretically, it is possible if the goods go through a supply train alternating between GST-registered and non-GST-registered suppliers. In practice, I would think the amount is very small as businesses of any scale to speak of will register for GST so that they can offset input tax. Most commercial importers and wholesalers would be GST-registered.
Now that I've read this again, I can't believe this rubbish you are trying to pass off as fact. Is there not a GST offset you can use?3Boys:
[quote=\"JannettLee\"]
Whoever is running a business in Singapore will know that 7% GST is added for every changing-hand and hence there are a few times (changing hands) of 7% GST are compounded and factored into the costs and they price their goods accordingly. Consumer would have to foot the bill.
Do you really know what you are talking about?
Eg. Goods first imported @ $100 by Importer A who is not GST-registered. 7% GST is levied by customs on import. So, A's cost is $107.
A then sells @ $150 to Wholesaler B who is GST-registered. There is no input tax that B can claim.
B sells @ $200 + GST to Distributor C who is not GST registered. C cannot claim back the $14 GST that is collected by B.
C then sells @ $250 to Retailer D who is GST registered. D can claim no input tax.
D then sells @ $300 + GST to consumer and collects $21 GST.
In total, $7+$14+$21=$42 GST is collected on a retail sale of $300. If the chain was all GST-registered, only $21 GST would have been collected.
But seriously, how many such chains are there in real life?[/quote]Yes agreed, see my follow up post. -
3Boys:
In the typical supplier --> importer/wholesaler --> retailer --> consumer chain, with GST offset, how many layers of GST does the consumer incur?
In the typical supplier chain, they would all be GST registered and there will only be one layer of GST, ie. 7%. Many businesses volutarily register for GST even if their annual turnover is less than $1m, just so they can claim the input tax offset. -
pirate:
Thank you, another Myth (GST compounding).......Busted......3Boys:
In the typical supplier --> importer/wholesaler --> retailer --> consumer chain, with GST offset, how many layers of GST does the consumer incur?
In the typical supplier chain, they would all be GST registered and there will only be one layer of GST, ie. 7%. Many businesses volutarily register for GST even if their annual turnover is less than $1m, just so they can claim the input tax offset. -
3Boys:
Thank you, another Myth (GST compounding).......Busted......[/quote]But I think she may be looking at it from the point of view of an investor/speculator in commercial properties, where such funny chains may occur. But I won't worry too much about the typical consumer.pirate:
[quote=\"3Boys\"]In the typical supplier --> importer/wholesaler --> retailer --> consumer chain, with GST offset, how many layers of GST does the consumer incur?
In the typical supplier chain, they would all be GST registered and there will only be one layer of GST, ie. 7%. Many businesses volutarily register for GST even if their annual turnover is less than $1m, just so they can claim the input tax offset.
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