Are you ready for 7 million people on tiny Singapore?
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3Boys:
Did the pple who kpkb even go thru or experience (self or close friends/relatives) the hassles of having a foreigner spouse?
Geez....did you even reflect before you said that???limlim:
How would I not understand this. If one wanna get a foreign spouse, one shd willingly pay the cost.
I did, as I mentioned I went to ICA and at times more in a year than your total trips to renew passports combined.
And I tell you, it is not as fun as queuing for passport (which essentially is fuss free as the efficient govt make it for Singaporeans). Did you ever joined a queue OUTSIDE ICA building at 0750hrs on a Saturday morning?
As someone(not saying you, not personal) who never go thru all these, I wonder they kpkb so much for what.
If I get a foreigner spouse, I am prepare to go all the way. That little inconvenience meant nothing. I have essentially experienced all the hassles and inconvenience.
So, what is it you expect me to reflect on?
Why am I beginning to feel the Singaporeans are indeed too pampered.. Want foreign spouse and expect residency delivered in a platter? A given?
There is no barrier to true love. If he/she is worth it, go for it.
Different story if it is marriage of convenience. It is really NOT convenient. -
Harlequin:
Must marry up, cannot marry down :siam:[/quote]\"Low Class\"?
Ya lor. Must discourage Singaporeans from marrying foreigners from those low class countries. We don't want them muddying the pure bloodlines of true blue Singaporeans.pirate:
[quote=\"limlim\"]How would I not understand this. If one wanna get a foreign spouse, one shd willingly pay the cost. I believe I have visited the ICA more times than you go and renew your passport, for all kinds of stuffs at level 4 with my friend.
Cannot tahan a bit of inconvenience?
They already send a man to space, SG didn't even come close to that. What kind of childish remark is that.. -
Mdm Koh:
All I am saying is, it is more comfortable for for the government to maintain high revenues which include the collection of a value-added tax on medical services. If they do away with this source of revenue (no matter how small you think it is, your suggested percentage is inferred and unproven), the overall revenue figures will be affected and they will not look good.
Well, here...3Boys:
[quote=\"Mdm Koh\"]
When did I say that? :?Mdm Koh:
If you think the g'ment is not making money off people overall, then what's the issue with GST?I think exemption of GST on healthcare can be done; it's whether the government wants to do it. It's much more comfortable for them to maintain high revenues, but at what cost to the people?
However, while it is clear that GST on a $100 hairdressing service is valid, when it comes to essentials like healthcare, the pros and cons need to be carefully weighed. There are different viewpoints on the matter, so I do not think that you should dismiss my view as \"barking up the wrong tree\" or one that is based on clouded judgement.
I believe you know that a VAT like the GST is problematic. It has its critics and it is not applied for essential goods and services in a number of countries. It is unpopular because it affects people's lives negatively. But that is not to say that it has no merit at all. I think the important thing is to balance its economic efficacy with its impact on the citizens.[/quote]
Mdm Koh, you are free to derive your own figures, you will get nowhere close to 10%. In lieu of you coming to your own numbers, I ask that you grant me the courtesy of accepting the figure as being extremely generous. You can check the provided links and come to your own conclusions, it's all there.
And there is nothing wrong in charging GST in healthcare if you eventually give it back as subsidies and grants. -
Harlequin:
Summon credit card statement for what? Go overseas cannot buy personal stuff overseas?
Never. Cos I always declare.
But I have seen people being caught.... unpacked and bagged in luggage. Note that they can summon your credit cards statement, once they tell you that, then you better own up. These are usually the luxury designer items lah.
Buy for personal consumption, need to pay GST? never heard of before. -
limlim:
Yet another uninformed statement.
Summon credit card statement for what? Go overseas cannot buy personal stuff overseas?Harlequin:
Never. Cos I always declare.
But I have seen people being caught.... unpacked and bagged in luggage. Note that they can summon your credit cards statement, once they tell you that, then you better own up. These are usually the luxury designer items lah.
Buy for personal consumption, need to pay GST? never heard of before.
You bring back goods from overseas, personal usage or not, is declarable at customs if exceed $400. -
3Boys:
Yet another uninformed statement.
Summon credit card statement for what? Go overseas cannot buy personal stuff overseas?limlim:
[quote=\"Harlequin\"]
Never. Cos I always declare.
But I have seen people being caught.... unpacked and bagged in luggage. Note that they can summon your credit cards statement, once they tell you that, then you better own up. These are usually the luxury designer items lah.
Buy for personal consumption, need to pay GST? never heard of before.
You bring back goods from overseas, personal usage or not, is declarable at customs if exceed $400.[/quote]Oh ok.. next time bring Cash.. :evil: -
limlim:
Did the pple who kpkb even go thru or experience (self or close friends/relatives) the hassles of having a foreigner spouse?
Geez....did you even reflect before you said that???3Boys:
[quote=\"limlim\"]
How would I not understand this. If one wanna get a foreign spouse, one shd willingly pay the cost.
I did, as I mentioned I went to ICA and at times more in a year than your total trips to renew passports combined.
And I tell you, it is not as fun as queuing for passport (which essentially is fuss free as the efficient govt make it for Singaporeans). Did you ever joined a queue OUTSIDE ICA building at 0750hrs on a Saturday morning?
As someone(not saying you, not personal) who never go thru all these, I wonder they kpkb so much for what.
If I get a foreigner spouse, I am prepare to go all the way. That little inconvenience meant nothing. I have essentially experienced all the hassles and inconvenience.
So, what is it you expect me to reflect on?
Why am I beginning to feel the Singaporeans are indeed too pampered.. Want foreign spouse and expect residency delivered in a platter? A given?
There is no barrier to true love. If he/she is worth it, go for it.
Different story if it is marriage of convenience. It is really NOT convenient.[/quote]But to what end??? -
The way you are you saying is like all the rich will evade taxes & govt need to implement GST to get back evaded tax from them?
Then how do you explain cutting the rich's income tax by 5% to save them more taxes & taxes everybody else more as a result of GSt? Am I missing something here?pirate:
Because top tier personal income tax is easily avoided by a little bit of tax planning. Only the salarymen and professionals get hit. The big towkays can structure their income into something else. As for the criminals and their undeclared income...limlim:
GST if necessary, is fine with me. But it should be kept low at say, 3% and still contribute to revenue.
If not enough, then the income tax of top tier shouldn't be reduced. Why can't they keep it at say, 25% while introducing GST?
Reducing income tax and increasing GST just doesn't makes sense to me other than benefiting the rich.
I'm okay with GST but don't agree with reducing top tier income tax to increase GST.
On the other hand, if you want to ride around in your very own $500,000 Mercedes in Singapore, you have to pay $35,000 GST. It doesn't matter if you make your money from bank interest, stock dividends, capital appreciation, speculating on the stock market, gambling at the casino, underdeclaring the number of plates of char kway teow you sell, loansharking or rigging soccer games in Europe. You still have to pay $35,000 GST. -
limlim:
Oh ok.. next time bring Cash.. :evil:[/quote]Why do you insist on taking on all kinds of preposterous positions based on misinformation? So you still think there are billions of dollars of GST leak from overseas shopping?
Yet another uninformed statement.3Boys:
[quote=\"limlim\"]
Summon credit card statement for what? Go overseas cannot buy personal stuff overseas?
Buy for personal consumption, need to pay GST? never heard of before.
You bring back goods from overseas, personal usage or not, is declarable at customs if exceed $400. -
Mdm Koh:
All I am saying is, it is more comfortable for for the government to maintain high revenues which include the collection of a value-added tax on medical services. If they do away with this source of revenue (no matter how small you think it is, your suggested percentage is inferred and unproven), the overall revenue figures will be affected and they will not look good.
Well, here...3Boys:
[quote=\"Mdm Koh\"]
When did I say that? :?Mdm Koh:
If you think the g'ment is not making money off people overall, then what's the issue with GST?I think exemption of GST on healthcare can be done; it's whether the government wants to do it. It's much more comfortable for them to maintain high revenues, but at what cost to the people?
However, while it is clear that GST on a $100 hairdressing service is valid, when it comes to essentials like healthcare, the pros and cons need to be carefully weighed. There are different viewpoints on the matter, so I do not think that you should dismiss my view as \"barking up the wrong tree\" or one that is based on clouded judgement.
I believe you know that a VAT like the GST is problematic. It has its critics and it is not applied for essential goods and services in a number of countries. It is unpopular because it affects people's lives negatively. But that is not to say that it has no merit at all. I think the important thing is to balance its economic efficacy with its impact on the citizens.[/quote]
Mdm Koh, you are free to derive your own figures, you will get nowhere close to 10%. In lieu of you coming to your own numbers, I ask that you grant me the courtesy of accepting the figure as being extremely generous. You can check the provided links and come to your own conclusions, it's all there.
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