Former SCDF and CNB chiefs arrested

[limlim]

3Boys:

Was there any wrongdoing?

Possibly not, as per verdict.

You said it yourself. \"Possibly\" not.........

means, possibly Yes too.

Hence need to prosecute and expose the truth.

Whiter than white.. that is what we expect of the govt.. isn't it?

[3Boys]

limlim:

3Boys:

Was there any wrongdoing?

Possibly not, as per verdict.

You said it yourself. \"Possibly\" not.........

means, possibly Yes too.

Hence need to prosecute and expose the truth.

Whiter than white.. that is what we expect of the govt.. isn't it?

If you want to investigate, then you investigate, to uncover the truth.

If you have reasonable indication of wrongdoing, then you prosecute.

You don't prosecute someone who is, by the way, innocent until proven guilty, on the hunch of a possible wrongdoing.

Don't confuse an investigation with a prosecution.

In doing so, has justice been done to the individual? He is out of pocket to the tune of half-a-million dollars, he is subjected to public ridicule. What if he were a commoner without such deep pockets, could he afford to defend himself?

[limlim]

3Boys:

If you want to investigate, then you investigate, to uncover the truth.

If you have reasonable indication of wrongdoing, then you prosecute.

You don't prosecute someone who is, by the way, innocent until proven guilty, on the hunch of a possible wrongdoing.

You didn't factor in my other post which I didn't repeat in the quoted post, that mentioned presence of hard evidence and not a mere hunch.

When there is reasonable ground for suspicion after the investigation, there is a need to prosecute to uncover the truth.

The material fact is that they knew each other. And that code of conduct have been broken when the r/s was not declared.

Whether there is any illegal cause-effect intention/transactions will then have to be determined after the cross examination.

[limlim]

3Boys:

In doing so, has justice been done to the individual? He is out of pocket to the tune of half-a-million dollars, he is subjected to public ridicule. What if he were a commoner without such deep pockets, could he afford to defend himself?

Would he have ended up in this state had he followed proper code of conduct expected of a high ranking civil officer? is EMA a necessity?

[Just relax]

limlim:

3Boys:

In doing so, has justice been done to the individual? He is out of pocket to the tune of half-a-million dollars, he is subjected to public ridicule. What if he were a commoner without such deep pockets, could he afford to defend himself?

Would he have ended up in this state had he followed proper code of conduct expected of a high ranking civil officer? is EMA a necessity?

The problem is that 2 supposedly capable men succumbed to temptation. The qn. the public can ask, if tempted by this although already married, is there some other temptations these men could fall for as well?

Both are in impt. front line jobs dealing with Singapore's security and safety. These men have to behave impeccably at all times as the temptations are distractions from their job.

BUT that does not mean they were criminal. The other way would have been to have an internal Board of Inquiry (BOI) and if sufficient evidence then hand over to CPIB for further investigation and prosecution by AGC if sufficient evidence.

If you see both the law prof. and CNB case, the women claim relationship, the men also claim relationship, now SCDF also claim relationship, so it is not outright corruption where there is money given (although sex is also corruption but not so clear cut as Judge in CNB case has rightly pointed out) so perhaps BOI 1st?

Then there is no issue of cover up and then all this media circus won't happen. If BOI finds improper then can still punish by sacking etc.

BOI can be 3 man, 1 senior civil servant from different ministry, 1 lawyer from private practice who is Senior Counsel or retired Judge and a 3rd person can be anybody else. The 3 cases of corruption involving affairs are not complicated cases. The BOI can get the facts and all 3men can have their lawyers with them and BOI can conduct inquiry. Very straightforward. No cover up because got retired Judge or senior outside lawyer on BOI.

[pirate]

Nah. The political climate is now so poisonous that nothing short of an open trial will satisfy the baying masses. Anything less and the crowd will scream, "Elitist cover up!"

[3Boys]

limlim:

3Boys:

In doing so, has justice been done to the individual? He is out of pocket to the tune of half-a-million dollars, he is subjected to public ridicule. What if he were a commoner without such deep pockets, could he afford to defend himself?

Would he have ended up in this state had he followed proper code of conduct expected of a high ranking civil officer? is EMA a necessity?

Since when did EMA become grounds for criminal prosecution?

Don't stretch the logic of what's going on here.

[3Boys]

pirate:

Nah. The political climate is now so poisonous that nothing short of an open trial will satisfy the baying masses. Anything less and the crowd will scream, \"Elitist cover up!\"

You ain't being sarcastic, are you?

[winchester]

3Boys:

pirate:

Nah. The political climate is now so poisonous that nothing short of an open trial will satisfy the baying masses. Anything less and the crowd will scream, \"Elitist cover up!\"

You ain't being sarcastic, are you?

i think he is astute lol

[winchester]

pirate:

Nah. The political climate is now so poisonous that nothing short of an open trial will satisfy the baying masses. Anything less and the crowd will scream, \"Elitist cover up!\"

also even if there is trial and judgment not to mob's liking - \"elitist cover up\" and \"compliant judiciary\" lol