DSA 2023

[Tick16]

For everyone’s reference if it may be helpful…

Timelines based on DD’s DSA 2022:

9th Sept: Received the last of the 3 schools sent out email on offers (MOE dateline was by 12th Sept)
4th Oct: Finished last PSLE paper (Science- no she did not take HMTL)
27th Oct: Email by “postman.gov.sg” to inform for school preference submission. (31st Oct - 4th Nov) This must be done even if you only have one school with CO or WL else you want to forgo the offers, you can choose to ignore and not submit.
31st Oct: Submitted school preference:
1st school- WL
2nd school- CO
23rd Nov: received PSLE results + confirmed school allocation (another piece of paper from MOE) to 1st ranked school. DD’s WL was converted to CO.

[zac's mum]

👆 in the scenario above, would the CO at the 2nd school be passed down the line to a person holding a WL?


I’m thinking about how the MOE computer would sort out the logic of it (before PSLE results day). Does it mean that the schools are ranked (secretly)?

[keas]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2114495\" time=\"1690176139\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2114495 time=1690176139 user_id=53606]
👆 in the scenario above, would the CO at the 2nd school be passed down the line to a person holding a WL?

I’m thinking about how the MOE computer would sort out the logic of it (before PSLE results day). Does it mean that the schools are ranked (secretly)?[/quote]

I wonder the same thing about the algorithm behind. That means MOE or the system actually have already done all the ranking and review with the actual students’ scores before PSLE result day?

[mystique_j]

Once the school choices are made by the students, is it the school or MOE that that sorts out the WL?

I always thought, it’s the school… in the sense the school receives the list that accepted their CO, then they will go down the list of WL to decide who in the WL will get the conversions. Then this list of conversion is given to MOE to be released together with the PSLE results.

[zac's mum]

mystique_j\" post_id=\"2114497\" time=\"1690177396\" user_id=\"39431:

Once the school choices are made by the students, is it the school or MOE that that sorts out the WL?
I always thought, it’s the school.. in the sense the school receives the list that accepted their CO, then they will go down the list of WL to decide who in the WL will get the conversions. Then this list of conversion is given to MOE to be released together with the PSLE results.

Yes, i think you are right.

MOE will then hold on to the list until the PSLE marking days are over. Review the candidates’ final scores to see if meet the min requirements for the stream. If all in order, then start to finalize and print out the result slips and certs, ready in advance for PSLE release date.

[keas]

mystique_j\" post_id=\"2114497\" time=\"1690177396\" user_id=\"39431:

Once the school choices are made by the students, is it the school or MOE that that sorts out the WL?
I always thought, it’s the school.. in the sense the school receives the list that accepted their CO, then they will go down the list of WL to decide who in the WL will get the conversions. Then this list of conversion is given to MOE to be released together with the PSLE results.

Yes, the school decides for itself. However, MOE will also need to sort out the students’ choices based on the school’s submitted results. For example, a student WL is converted means that student may forgo another CO. And that school (with CO rejected) will then have to convert its WL too?

[zac's mum]

In previous years there was some discussion about S1 posting using the new AL scoring system. Somebody postulated that MOE has all the students’ raw scores, and that all of them are ranked from the number 1 in SG all the way down. That’s how the computer can start to process from the top student’s first choice, allocate the school, then keep going down the list, until the school is filled, and so on. A lower ranked student wont get his choices processed before a higher ranked student.


So I wonder if for DSA exercise of preferences, there is a similar consolidated master list (from the top school’s list all the way down), otherwise where to start from?

The other possibility is the computer runs separate schools’ DSA lists independently. In which case there will be some forsaken COs that will not flow to any waitlisters?

[wwjd.040411idkwhatiamdoing]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2114500\" time=\"1690181082\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2114500 time=1690181082 user_id=53606]
In previous years there was some discussion about S1 posting using the new AL scoring system. Somebody postulated that MOE has all the students’ raw scores, and that all of them are ranked from the number 1 in SG all the way down. That’s how the computer can start to process from the top student’s first choice, allocate the school, then keep going down the list, until the school is filled, and so on. A lower ranked student wont get his choices processed before a higher ranked student.

So I wonder if for DSA exercise of preferences, there is a similar consolidated master list (from the top school’s list all the way down), otherwise where to start from?

The other possibility is the computer runs separate schools’ DSA lists independently. In which case there will be some forsaken COs that will not flow to any waitlisters?[/quote]

What I was told by other experienced parents (not sure how true because MOE doesn't go into detail?):
1. School has a list of CO and WL, in order of preference. Allocated to CO first.
2. System will allocate to WL people in order of preference according to what the school gave.
3. This WL preference list is spread across all domains of 1 school.
4. System then checks:
(a) School A has 100 DSA vacancies.
(b) 350 COs across all domains put as 1st choice.
(c) On hold till all schools 1st choice CO done.
(d) Go on to WL. School A still has 50 vacancies, so top 50 on WL who put as 1st choice will be taken in.
(e) Let's say only 30 kids with WL put school A as 1st choice. Then system will move to kids who didn't get any offers yet after looking at their 1st choice, and move on to look at their 2nd choices.
(f) 2nd choice with CO kids (ranked also) will get in first. If say only 10 such kids at school A at this point enrol, then there's another 10 vacancies and it will repeat to those who put WL for School A as 2nd choice but have not gotten any other schools in their first choice. Then repeat again for 3rd choice.

[ovenlove]

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Consolidated List: Feel free to add on
**UPDATED** (as of 22 July)
All the best!!

ACSI
https://www.acsindep.moe.edu.sg/admissions/dsa-year-1/
Sports: Email received, 20 June (clashes with NUSH trial); trials in Aug
Robotics Email received, 20 June (clashes with NUSH trial)
Science: Email rec’d 28 June

Anglican High School
Choir : Email rec’d, 20th June
Chinese : 21 June email

Bukit Panjang Government High
Netball : rec’d 22 June
Volleyball : 19 June
Basketball: Trial 30 June

Catholic High
Basketball: Email received on the week of 12 June
Performing Arts : email rec’d on 16 June
Math : email rec’d on 23 June
Humanities IP : email rec’d 23 June
Track & Field : 19 June
Leadership: email received on 30 June
Science: email received on 30 June
MEP: email recd on 14 Jul for interview

Cedar Girls
Sports : received email on 19 June

Crescent Girls’
Performing arts: email recd on 13 Jul

Chung Cheng High Main
Badminton: Email received on 28 Jun; trials on 19 Jul

CHIJ Katong
Track & Field : 20 June

CHIJ TPY
Track & Field : email rec’d on 20 June
Netball, Bowling : email rec’d
Concert band: audition on 10 Jul

Chung Cheng High
Sports: email rec’d 28 Jun

Dunman High DHS
Bilingualism: email rec’d 28 June
Band: email received on 10 Jul for audition
Chinese Orchestra: email recd on 13 Jul
Chinese Dance: email recd on 14 Jul

Fairfield Methodist Secondary
Sports : Email received on 20th June

Hwa Chong HCI
Science & Humanities: Email received on 15 June to submit supporting documents
Science: email received on 10 Jul for interview
Math: email received on 10 Jul for interview
Infocomm : portfolio submission due 21 June; email received on 10 Jul for interview
Table tennis : trials 28 June
Track and Field : trials 01 July; email recd on 13 Jul for interview on 22 Jul
Leadership: email received on 10 Jul for interview
Bilingualism: email received on 10 Jul for interview

Methodist Girls' School MGS
Netball: Interview on 20 July
MEP : Email received on 23 Jun 5PM
EL DSA: received 30 June; Interview: 15 July.
STEM selection test on 15 Jul 2023.

Nan Hua High
Choir: Email rec’d 27 June
Badminton: email rec’d 26 June
Chinese Orchestra(Erhu) rec's 30 June

Nan Chiau
Dance: email received on 5 July

Nanyang Girls' High NYGH
Sports: Email received 26 June
Bilingualism: email rec’d
Chinese Dance: Audition July 4th
Leadership: personal statement submission
email rec’d 2nd July
Chinese orchestra: email rec’d 2nd July
Chinese Calligraphy and Service Leadership: email sent out on 2 July (Sun) at 715pm and 8pm respectively
Science: Email rec’d 3rd July
Math: email rec’d 3rd July
String Ensemble: email received on 3rd July

National Junior College https://www.nationaljc.moe.edu.sg/admissions/ip-dsa/
AEP: Email received on 30 Jun
Sports: email rec’d 23 jun
STEM: Email rec 16 Jun
Band: email rec’d 28 jun
Music: Selection Test date 5 Jul; String ensemble audition 18 Jul
AEP selection test date 14 Jul
Choir: email rec’d 23 jun

Ngee Ann Secondary
Basketball : email rec’d 22 June 23

NUS High
Science & Maths : Email sent on 19 June for selection test
Selection camp email recd on 11 Jul

Raffles Institution
AEP/Visual Arts : rec’d on 23 June
Sports: Email received on 16 June
Leadership: Email received 16 Jun for personal statement submission
Maths & Science : Email rec’d 23 June
Basketball : trials 23, 24 June
Track and Field:
trials 23, 24 June; email for 2nd trial recd on 30 Jun and held on 6 Jul
email recd on 11 Jul for interview
MEP -1st auditions 30th June
2nd Auditions and interview 15th July


Raffles Girls RGS
Visual Arts: email received on 6 Jul
Netball: email received on 6 Jul
Badminton: email received on 6 Jul and trials on 17 Jul
Basketball: email received on 7 Jul
MEP: email received on 6 Jul
English: email received on 7 Jul
Science: email received on 7 Jul
Math: email received on 7 Jul
Community & Youth Leadership: email received on 6 Jul; interview on 12 Jul, 26 Jul


River Valley High School
Sports : email rec’d 22 June
Robotics: email rec’d 28 june
Chinese Dance: email rec’d 30 June
Science selection trial: email rec’d 30 June
Concert Band : email received 30 June

SJI https://www.sji.edu.sg/admission/dsa2024y1/
Sports: 26 Jun
Innovation: email rec’d 16 June; 05 Jul
Leadership: email recd on 10 Jul

SMSS (St Margaret)
VA: email received 29 June
Netball: email received 4 July
String Ensemble: email received 4 July

CHIJ St Nicholas Girls' SNGS
Sports: email received 26 June
Leadership: email sent on 15 Jul

SST
Email 9 June
Exam finished mid June.

ST PATRICK
Leadership: email received 26 June
Sports: 26 June

Singapore Chinese Girls' School SCGS
Robotics - email received 26 June
Sports - email received 26 June
Leadership - email received 28 June
English - email received on 3 July; written test on 7 July
Science - email received on 3 July; written test on 12 July
Math - email received on 3 July; written test on 14 July
Dance - email received on 3 July to submit video recording; email for audition recd 10 Jul
Choir - email received on 4 July
Language – waiting for updates on interview after written tests

TJC
STEM & EL: email rec 23 Jun
Maths,Chinese, English, Science - Wrtten Test on 1st July
English: email recd on 13 Jul for interview on 20 Jul
MEP : email rec 20 Jun
Taekwondo : email rec 21 June,
sport trial 12 Jul
Leadership: email received 28 June

Tanjong Katong Girls’ TKGS
Netball: email received on 6 Jun

Xinmin
Air Rifle : 21 June

Victoria School VS
Floorball: email received on 5 Jul
Volleyball: email received on 10 Jul for trial/interview
Track & Field: email received on 11 Jul

[alwwp]

:thankyou for the info. So if given a CO for school A and subsequently placed school A CO as second choice, there may be a chance that the kid may not get school A in the event that 1st choice is not successful too?

wwjd.idkwhatiamdoing\" post_id=\"2114508\" time=\"1690189037\" user_id=\"201007:

What I was told by other experienced parents (not sure how true because MOE doesn't go into detail?):
1. School has a list of CO and WL, in order of preference. Allocated to CO first.
2. System will allocate to WL people in order of preference according to what the school gave.
3. This WL preference list is spread across all domains of 1 school.
4. System then checks:
(a) School A has 100 DSA vacancies.
(b) 350 COs across all domains put as 1st choice.
(c) On hold till all schools 1st choice CO done.
(d) Go on to WL. School A still has 50 vacancies, so top 50 on WL who put as 1st choice will be taken in.
(e) Let's say only 30 kids with WL put school A as 1st choice. Then system will move to kids who didn't get any offers yet after looking at their 1st choice, and move on to look at their 2nd choices.
(f) 2nd choice with CO kids (ranked also) will get in first. If say only 10 such kids at school A at this point enrol, then there's another 10 vacancies and it will repeat to those who put WL for School A as 2nd choice but have not gotten any other schools in their first choice. Then repeat again for 3rd choice.