PSLE 2012 - Results Discussion
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mistral77:
every one can do their part by lessening the stress of psle by NOT naming any top student in this forum
It'd be really sad if parents or students really get stressed simply by knowing who the top student is. That would imply we are truly kiasu - \"scared to lose\" to others. -
mistral77:
every one can do their part by lessening the stress of psle by NOT naming any top student in this forum
Oh goodness. How does knowing who the top student is stress parents?
I think most parents are discerning and objective enough not to be affected by such information. -
ChiefKiasu:
My sentiment too, although I don't really need to know the names of the top scorers.mistral77:
every one can do their part by lessening the stress of psle by NOT naming any top student in this forum
It'd be really sad if parents or students really get stressed simply by knowing who the top student is. That would imply we are truly kiasu - \"scared to lose\" to others. -
VALyap:
:goodpost:
my take, no issue with publicizing high T-scocers. My only concern, our nation becomes not too competitive, in a globalized world. it is brute competition, Of course, the govt. must at the same time help or provide a little safety net to those that falls thru the crack!
Some parents may have the same view, it is the parents' expectation that need to change and NOT the PSLE! Have come across unreasonable parents having unrealistic or high expectations of their kids to get into top IP schools. My relatives work in the education area, had repeatedly shared with us, some (many)parents expecting their kids with T-score more than30+ off the cut-off T-score to get into the IP. This is not only NOT helping the kid, but in return creating more harm than good. These unrealistic parents just want to brag about having a child in IP school etc. In the end, the child was the one that was most stressed out!
We should always take the middle path, know where is the limit and where to push or pull harder! If the string is pull too tight, it will burst! If the string is too loose, it will not make good music! As responsible parents, it is good to have high expectation, BUT, we need to recognize that every child is different and give unconditional love! -
mistral77:
every one can do their part by lessening the stress of psle by NOT naming any top student in this forum
When one does not compare one's fruit to others, there shall be no stress. Peace. -
Twinkies:
As long as we saw our DC putting in good effort, we should not try to have unrealistic expectation. If results come out well, good. If results not to our expectation, it is OK to feel disappointed but must also try to put everything in proper perspective.
:goodpost:VALyap:
my take, no issue with publicizing high T-scocers. My only concern, our nation becomes not too competitive, in a globalized world. it is brute competition, Of course, the govt. must at the same time help or provide a little safety net to those that falls thru the crack!
Some parents may have the same view, it is the parents' expectation that need to change and NOT the PSLE! Have come across unreasonable parents having unrealistic or high expectations of their kids to get into top IP schools. My relatives work in the education area, had repeatedly shared with us, some (many)parents expecting their kids with T-score more than30+ off the cut-off T-score to get into the IP. This is not only NOT helping the kid, but in return creating more harm than good. These unrealistic parents just want to brag about having a child in IP school etc. In the end, the child was the one that was most stressed out!
We should always take the middle path, know where is the limit and where to push or pull harder! If the string is pull too tight, it will burst! If the string is too loose, it will not make good music! As responsible parents, it is good to have high expectation, BUT, we need to recognize that every child is different and give unconditional love!
We don't want to do any harm to our DC's esteem or morale as there is still a long education journey ahead. -
Kwclif, fully agree!
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ChiefKiasu:
Well said Chief! :thankyou:mistral77:
MOE finally doing the right thing.
I'm not sure. In my humble opinion, it is an over-reaction to all the negativity about the stress level of PSLE. Obfuscation of results doesn't make the stress go away.
If anything, I think it is unjust for the top PSLE scholars this year. They have worked hard for their good results, and they deserve the honors of being officially announced as the top scholars in Singapore. Academic prowess is nothing to be ashamed of!
If no one sets the bar for others to follow, then everyone will end up being contented with mediocre levels. In the long term, we will end up with a sub-standard education system just because we are afraid of people complaining about failing to make the grade. Look at the UK's ensuing debate about the low national GCSE standards versus the more rigorous GCE 'O' Levels taken by international students - how it is blamed for the poorer performance of UK secondary school students versus equivalent students in other countries in international competitions.
PSLE is just a ruler that we use to measure students for their fit to go to various schools. If we are taller, we have to wear longer pants. If we are short and we want to wear longer pants, we have to put in the effort to eat and exercise more so that we can (hopefully) grow taller. Or we simply wear the pants that we are most comfortable with, because we have the highest chance of overall success if we use the tools that suit us best.
If we can understand this fundamental principle, there would be much less complaints about how tall the PSLE ruler is set at. The stress stems from parents' fear of their children not \"meeting the cut\" and ending up in a \"2nd rate\" secondary school. If anything, MOE should look more into convincing parents about the merits of these \"2nd rate\" secondary schools to put them at ease that the schools are really the best fit for their children. That would be addressing the stress directly, instead of simply sweeping PSLE results under the carpet. -
Naming top students is ok with me...though my son is not a high achiever, it doesn't mean I will be jealous. Every kid is different...some are really intelligent.
I have heard of a mother who only see RI as THE school for her son...yet the boy has not even sat for PSLE :faint: -
Twinkies:
I am one who subscribe to the philosophy that education is about learning and growing as a person, it is not about competition, at least not at children and teen level. For this I feel if MOE is serious about reducing stress by not announcing top students, I think all the more important this should be done at the class level. No need to reveal who are the top 3 in class every year. Then the kids can just study thru, for the sake of learning and enjoyment of the Subjects and not to stress themselves out to outdo others. However, I think for PSLE, I still feel it is good to give recognition to the top 3 but forget about listing top 10or 20.mistral77:
every one can do their part by lessening the stress of psle by NOT naming any top student in this forum
When one does not compare one's fruit to others, there shall be no stress. Peace.
Till now I still don't see the connection how kids can get stress from knowing who the top students are. If I am a 230, it does not affect me some smart kid out there get 280 or 290. I will probably compare with my peers in class. As much as MOE is emphasizing character buildin, isn't is important that kids learn the reality of win and lose in the world. They can learn how to be happy for those who do well, how to accept losing and be resilient and try again.
I am neither for nor against this new decision from MOE but I still can't understand how this reduce stress. This is just a knee jerk reaction, just like the Good Character award.
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