7 New IP schools
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Vanilla Cake:
Good guesses. I know VJC has been courting several girls schools for IP for some time. So it'll be interesting to see who they finally hook up with.jtoh:
Straits Times says likely schools include Cedar Girls and Victoria School. SJI also likely.
Quote from The Straits Times dated Monday, August 30 2010 Page A3:
\"The Strait Times understands that Cedar Girls' Secondary School and Victoria School are among the schools that the IP will be extended to. St Joseph's Institution had also earlier submitted a proposal to offer the IP.\"
My guess for the 7 more schools to offer IP on dual tracks:
1. http://www.catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/-http://www.cjc.edu.sg/web/
2. http://www.cedargirlssec.moe.edu.sg/-http://www.vjc.moe.edu.sg/website/
3. http://www.chijstnicholasgirls.moe.edu.sg/default.aspx-http://www.cjc.edu.sg/web/
4. http://www.mgs.sch.edu.sg/-http://www.acjc.edu.sg/
5. http://www.scgs.edu.sg/-Not sure
6. http://www.sji.edu.sg/-http://www.cjc.edu.sg/web/
7. http://vs.moe.edu.sg/-http://www.vjc.moe.edu.sg/website/
Thanks.
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jtoh:
For the top students in some of these good Sec schools, they will join RI, HCI, NJC, or other top JCs after O Level as of now. Wonder if their Sec implement IP, would they really want to join the affliated JC, or still want to join other top JCs?
You raise a valid point. I suppose these schools have to find the right partner in an established JC. Hence MGS-ACJC/ACSI or SJI/CJC seem obvious and natural choices.WeiHan:
Some of the schools that didn't get IP status have some of their top students draining away in the last few years. Examples are Saint Nick, SCGS etc...
Concern about IP in these schools that have smaller pocket of \"university bounded\" students is that they will not have enough threshold number of students to offer all the A level subjects. For example, if the school has only 50 students doing IP, and out of this 50 students, 15 want to do humanities subjects like literature, history, geography and 35 wants to do science subjects. And when under humanities subjects and science subjects, there are many more subject combinations. Will MOE just send teachers to teach classes with just a few to 10 students? Wouldn't it be very resource taxing. This problem is OK for ACSI because they are independent school and rich and can employ extra teachers to handle the situation. Will the subject combinations in these smaller IP schools be restricted then? -
[quote="wonderm
For the top students in some of these good Sec schools, they will join RI, HCI, NJC, or other top JCs after O Level as of now. Wonder if their Sec implement IP, would they really want to join the affliated JC, or still want to join other top JCs?[/quote]
Then they must join the right sec which associate with their right JC. But I believe at end of sec2 they can DSA again … -
Brenda10:
Personally I think it is more likely for 2012 Sec 1 intake. This year \"readiness\" will be \"stretching it a little\" considering that the DSA exercise is already over and PSLE is just round the corner.mummyjoyce:
I am so excited. I hope confirmation of schools will be ontime for this year PSLE students. They will have more options
Me too. My nephew is this year and dd next year. Hopefully MOE already done the ground work and will announce soon. :celebrate: -
wonderm:
For the top students in some of these good Sec schools, they will join RI, HCI, NJC, or other top JCs after O Level as of now. Wonder if their Sec implement IP, would they really want to join the affliated JC, or still want to join other top JCs?[/quote]For me, it'll depend on how good the IP programme is and which JC the IP leads up to. The Raffles Programme is an established programme as is the Hwa Chong Programme. So I would prefer my child to get into these top IP schools than to stay in a fledgling IP programme.
You raise a valid point. I suppose these schools have to find the right partner in an established JC. Hence MGS-ACJC/ACSI or SJI/CJC seem obvious and natural choices.jtoh:
[quote=\"WeiHan\"]Some of the schools that didn't get IP status have some of their top students draining away in the last few years. Examples are Saint Nick, SCGS etc...
Concern about IP in these schools that have smaller pocket of \"university bounded\" students is that they will not have enough threshold number of students to offer all the A level subjects. For example, if the school has only 50 students doing IP, and out of this 50 students, 15 want to do humanities subjects like literature, history, geography and 35 wants to do science subjects. And when under humanities subjects and science subjects, there are many more subject combinations. Will MOE just send teachers to teach classes with just a few to 10 students? Wouldn't it be very resource taxing. This problem is OK for ACSI because they are independent school and rich and can employ extra teachers to handle the situation. Will the subject combinations in these smaller IP schools be restricted then? -
powershengyang:
There should not even be new IP schools. IP is for students who are predicted to pass \"O\" levels with flying colours. This lets them use the time for studying to do more meaningful stuff. Schools like neighbourhood schools etc etc should not even have IP, if you have an average of B4 for the majority of th students in the school, they should not deserve the IP status. Having IP status for too many schools will result in a mass drop in the standard of education in singapore.
If the students are admitted into JC and they fail \"A\" levels, their highest education standard would be at PSLE level, causing them to lose out. \"O\" levels are there to help students who cannot or may not pass the \"A\" levels, not to burden them.
I sort of agree with you. With so many IP schools in the near future, what's so special about IP anymore? -
kiasu being kiasu, I think there is no stopping pupils trying DSA at end of Sec 2 and end of Sec 4 again, and there will be some criss-crossing between the IP schools…lol
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jtoh:
Partnering up with their respective affiliated JCs is more easily said than done. They are in different locations. And if Saint Nick, Cat High and SJi going to partner up with CJC, there will be four locations and you will end up with same resource problem. Moreover IP programme is not supposed to be just about \"skipping O levels\", it should be a SEAMLESS education from sec1 to JC2. If they are going to let each schools run their own IP programme and then just skip the O level and then join the affiliated JC, there isn't much change in real substance and it defeat the purpose.
You raise a valid point. I suppose these schools have to find the right partner in an established JC. Hence MGS-ACJC/ACSI or SJI/CJC seem obvious and natural choices.WeiHan:
Some of the schools that didn't get IP status have some of their top students draining away in the last few years. Examples are Saint Nick, SCGS etc...
Concern about IP in these schools that have smaller pocket of \"university bounded\" students is that they will not have enough threshold number of students to offer all the A level subjects. For example, if the school has only 50 students doing IP, and out of this 50 students, 15 want to do humanities subjects like literature, history, geography and 35 wants to do science subjects. And when under humanities subjects and science subjects, there are many more subject combinations. Will MOE just send teachers to teach classes with just a few to 10 students? Wouldn't it be very resource taxing. This problem is OK for ACSI because they are independent school and rich and can employ extra teachers to handle the situation. Will the subject combinations in these smaller IP schools be restricted then? -
I think IP should be implemented in like all of you said, the consistent band 1 schools but there must be a COP for that too such as an average of A2s so as to ensure that only those who will pass "A" levels will get into a JC.
This is because if students whom are faring badly enter IP, they would most likely fail the "A" levels and be unemplyed for most times in this highly competitive world. Their highest education would be the PSLE as they will not have the "O" levels to "back them up". -
WeiHan:
Partnering up with their respective affiliated JCs is more easily said than done. They are in different locations. And if Saint Nick, Cat High and SJi going to partner up with CJC, there will be four locations and you will end up with same resource problem. Moreover IP programme is not supposed to be just about \"skipping O levels\", it should be a SEAMLESS education from sec1 to JC2. If they are going to let each schools run their own IP programme and then just skip the O level and then join the affiliated JC, there isn't much change in real substance and it defeat the purpose.[/quote]I remember for CHS & SNGS & SJI, one of the original proposal they had for IP submitted to MOE just before the IP applications closed some years ago, was for students of these 3 schools to eg. continue to year 5 or 6 in CHS or SJI. That's a little like the NYGH model. Even RGS goes to RI for year 5 or 6 now at a totally different location.
You raise a valid point. I suppose these schools have to find the right partner in an established JC. Hence MGS-ACJC/ACSI or SJI/CJC seem obvious and natural choices.jtoh:
[quote=\"WeiHan\"]Some of the schools that didn't get IP status have some of their top students draining away in the last few years. Examples are Saint Nick, SCGS etc...
Concern about IP in these schools that have smaller pocket of \"university bounded\" students is that they will not have enough threshold number of students to offer all the A level subjects. For example, if the school has only 50 students doing IP, and out of this 50 students, 15 want to do humanities subjects like literature, history, geography and 35 wants to do science subjects. And when under humanities subjects and science subjects, there are many more subject combinations. Will MOE just send teachers to teach classes with just a few to 10 students? Wouldn't it be very resource taxing. This problem is OK for ACSI because they are independent school and rich and can employ extra teachers to handle the situation. Will the subject combinations in these smaller IP schools be restricted then?
I like the extra option. I don't hope my ds2 go to HCI for example bc of certain reasons not related to the academic side and hopes he remains he chS, so with the option of IP, it'd be good. Whether he makes it into the stream, well, that's another story that is really up to him.
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