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    Is PSLE so important?

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      iFirefly
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      Too many changes have taken place in too short a time.. For better or for worse? 🤷


      Firstly, the P1 Registration.. Next, the removal of Sec Schs Banding.. Then, the abolishing of SYF Awards.. Now, the PSLE (not announcing top scorers).. :roll:

      I do not see anything wrong with letting the public know who the top PSLE scorers are.. These children have put in so much effort and hard work into their studies, they certainly deserve our respect and recognition for their achievements.. Their teachers have worked hard too, having coached their students and supported them, both accademically and emotionally, during the exam period.. They too deserve our outmost respect for their dedication and commitment.. :salute:

      With less or no information available from now on, parents will resort to using past years' data to make decisions, may it be P1 registration or Sec Sch selection.. Neighbourhood schools may have little (or NO) chance to change the opinions of parents (& public), as their academic achievements will not be made known to parents (& public) anymore.. And we cannot deny the fact that children's academic performance still ranks rather high on parents' minds, at least for now.. can we? :skeptical:

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        wonderm
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        firefly38:
        Too many changes have taken place in too short a time.. For better or for worse? 🤷


        Firstly, the P1 Registration.. Next, the removal of Sec Schs Banding.. Then, the abolishing of SYF Awards.. Now, the PSLE (not announcing top scorers).. :roll:

        I do not see anything wrong with letting the public know who the top PSLE scorers are.. These children have put in so much effort and hard work into their studies, they certainly deserve our respect and recognition for their achievements.. Their teachers have worked hard too, having coached their students and supported them, both accademically and emotionally, during the exam period.. They too deserve our outmost respect for their dedication and commitment.. :salute:

        With less or no information available from now on, parents will resort to using past years' data to make decisions, may it be P1 registration or Sec Sch selection.. Neighbourhood schools may have little (or NO) chance to change the opinions of parents (& public), as their academic achievements will not be made known to parents (& public) anymore.. And we cannot deny the fact that children's academic performance still ranks rather high on parents' minds, at least for now.. can we? :skeptical:
        From the look of it, I think more and bigger changes could be on the way. Will the changes result in a more holistic education with less stress for students and parents, or will they result in grade inflation and dumbing down (like problems some of the western countries are facing now)? I hope the policy makers think carefully before making more major changes.

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          jtoh
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          I’m with firefly. I see nothing wrong with MOE publishing the names of the top scorers. These students have worked hard and done well and deserve their moment of glory. How would publishing their names make other students feel bad? As a student, I was not a great at Physics, but that didn’t make me feel bad when my friends scored A1 for the subject and topped the subject in my cohort. Do national swimmers feel bad that Michael Phelps is (was) breaking records and winning medals? Just because you can’t be #1 doesn’t mean you should feel bad for it nor deny those who are their little moment of celebration. Celebrate your own little achievements which are different from student to student. There’s no need for envy.

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            jtoh
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            wonderm:


            From the look of it, I think more and bigger changes could be on the way. Will the changes result in a more holistic education with less stress for students and parents, or will they result in grade inflation and dumbing down (like problems some of the western countries are facing now)? I hope the policy makers think carefully before making more major changes.
            That's my concern too.

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              wonderm
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              jtoh:
              I'm with firefly. I see nothing wrong with MOE publishing the names of the top scorers. These students have worked hard and done well and deserve their moment of glory. How would publishing their names make other students feel bad? As a student, I was not a great at Physics, but that didn't make me feel bad when my friends scored A1 for the subject and topped the subject in my cohort. Do national swimmers feel bad that Michael Phelps is (was) breaking records and winning medals? Just because you can't be #1 doesn't mean you should feel bad for it nor deny those who are their little moment of celebration. Celebrate your own little achievements which are different from student to student. There's no need for envy.

              Good point!

              I am wondering, does this new policy includes O Level, A Level results as well? For the same reason, the policy should be consistent?

              In the past, I read from the papers about the different starting pays for graduates of different courses. Would that be banned in future as well, so that people do not get stressed over which course seem to be more desirable? That will reduce the rush for certain faculties, and making it less stressful for all students and parents down the line?

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                CRYSTALRN
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                Just read news about Outstanding Teachers awards, is it "allow the officers to fire, prohibit the populace to light"? Will he cancel primary school’s annual commendation due to "stressful primary study"?


                Sometimes, hard to grasp their logic. Just like "teach less, then learn more". If so, why not "teach nothing, then kids learn everything"?

                This time, Funny again.

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                  janet88
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                  wonderm:
                  I am wondering, does this new policy includes O Level, A Level results as well? For the same reason, the policy should be consistent?


                  In the past, I read from the papers about the different starting pays for graduates of different courses. Would that be banned in future as well, so that people do not get stressed over which course seem to be more desirable? That will reduce the rush for certain faculties, and making it less stressful for all students and parents down the line?
                  yes, applies to all national exams according to the news flash i saw on cna last night.

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                    janet88
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                    CRYSTALRN:
                    Sometimes, hard to grasp their logic. Just like \"teach less, then learn more\". If so, why not \"teach nothing, then kids learn everything\"?


                    This time, Funny again.
                    so much has been said...but the ridiculous one which stood out is \"teach less, then learn more\"...something i cannot comprehend at all.

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                      jtoh
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                      wonderm:
                      jtoh:

                      I'm with firefly. I see nothing wrong with MOE publishing the names of the top scorers. These students have worked hard and done well and deserve their moment of glory. How would publishing their names make other students feel bad? As a student, I was not a great at Physics, but that didn't make me feel bad when my friends scored A1 for the subject and topped the subject in my cohort. Do national swimmers feel bad that Michael Phelps is (was) breaking records and winning medals? Just because you can't be #1 doesn't mean you should feel bad for it nor deny those who are their little moment of celebration. Celebrate your own little achievements which are different from student to student. There's no need for envy.


                      Good point!

                      I am wondering, does this new policy includes O Level, A Level results as well? For the same reason, the policy should be consistent?

                      In the past, I read from the papers about the different starting pays for graduates of different courses. Would that be banned in future as well, so that people do not get stressed over which course seem to be more desirable? That will reduce the rush for certain faculties, and making it less stressful for all students and parents down the line?

                      And there we would go down the slippery slope of a certain ideology where everyone is rewarded the same regardless of skill level and vocation. Dangerous.

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                        jtoh:
                        wonderm:

                        [quote=\"jtoh\"]I'm with firefly. I see nothing wrong with MOE publishing the names of the top scorers. These students have worked hard and done well and deserve their moment of glory. How would publishing their names make other students feel bad? As a student, I was not a great at Physics, but that didn't make me feel bad when my friends scored A1 for the subject and topped the subject in my cohort. Do national swimmers feel bad that Michael Phelps is (was) breaking records and winning medals? Just because you can't be #1 doesn't mean you should feel bad for it nor deny those who are their little moment of celebration. Celebrate your own little achievements which are different from student to student. There's no need for envy.


                        Good point!

                        I am wondering, does this new policy includes O Level, A Level results as well? For the same reason, the policy should be consistent?

                        In the past, I read from the papers about the different starting pays for graduates of different courses. Would that be banned in future as well, so that people do not get stressed over which course seem to be more desirable? That will reduce the rush for certain faculties, and making it less stressful for all students and parents down the line?

                        And there we would go down the slippery slope of a certain ideology where everyone is rewarded the same regardless of skill level and vocation. Dangerous.[/quote]Seems like we are going down that path.

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